Religion: Belief or Fact?

[HAUDflower]

If someone approached you, and asked..."why did you choose that car" you'd tell them about its MPG, its mileage, its horsepower, its appearance, and a multitude of other REASONS for which you chose it.

If someone approached you and asked you, "why did you choose that religion" many people would simply say..."its the religion of my parents, yada yada yada."

That being said, why do you entrust countless hours of your time, and virtually your entire LIFE, to your religion? In this case, Islam - what makes you confident that your time isn't wasted with religion?

In other words, what has convinced you, other than family tradition, that Islam is in fact truth and not just belief?

Can you effectively PROVE that Islam is fact? Can anyone for that matter? Do you know of an Islamic scholar who can prove to me that Islam is fact and not just belief. Because, after countless lectures and conversations, I've come across Islam, as with any other religion, to be entirely about faith, not facts. Most of you will agree, unless otherwise proven.

[dawwa9]

The other major religions sound like bull crap to me, thats why.

Paidmonk, what is what all these questions, are you turning atheist?

[HAUDflower]

Dawwa, I'm just doing some simple surveys.

But, your answer sounds like the answer of many. You take what you get without asking questions. Islam encourages asking questions, even though most scholars can't answer tough questions, they just take easy questions and answer the tough ones with metaphors.

[+chilli]

There is a very simple answer! I know there is...just can't seem to find it, its a fact religion is a belief!

Haud there is no answer, its an individual experience...

[HAUDflower]

There is a very simple answer! I know there is...just can't seem to find it, its a fact religion is a belief!

Haud there is no answer, its an individual experience...

Wow.

A Buddhist once told me that. I said to him, "that's the difference between yours and my religion - we are more solid and mine is in stone, your religion is very general and not set in stone, not true."

Thanks for telling the closest I'll hear to the truth on this topic - that Islam, like all religions, is a belief and thus a major gamble, there are NO answers, just metaphors and interpretations, no facts. And since gambling is Haram, I will do the Islamic thing and put Islam aside so I don't gamble my life with it. Until of course, facts are brought forth.

[Digital-Infidelity]

I am reminded of Oscar Wilde's profound phrase of wisdom, " Religions die when they are proved true. Science is the record of dead religions"

[HAUDflower]

I am reminded of Oscar Wilde's profound phrase of wisdom, " Religions die when they are proved true. Science is the record of dead religions"

George Carlin is another great religious commentary.

Even Einstein made a fair number of religious commentaries. All very true.

[+chilli]

Dig-Thats interesting qoute^, put it in context...

Haud ok, like that made any sense, who said what belief is, just because something is not understood with sensory experience gamble...


Anyhow, We all question, its healthy. I still do on many things, but it just makes my iman strong, I wish you the best of luck and people who can actually hold these metaphsical conversations with you...

[Digital-Infidelity]

I am reminded of Oscar Wilde's profound phrase of wisdom, " Religions die when they are proved true. Science is the record of dead religions"

George Carlin is another great religious commentary.

Even Einstein made a fair number of religious commentaries. All very true.

OK. Run now before the fake religious crowd molests you

[wastegal]

WHAT THE FACK DO YOU WANT FROM SOMALINET


WHAT TYPE OF QUESTION IS THAT

"Religion: Belief or Fact"


BALLLSHIID


Let me tell you the answer

HOOYODA DHAGTA KA WAAAAAS

[HAUDflower]

OK Chili, you're dismissed.


On another note - is it strange that major religions are anti-science? Islam asks us not to explore space and touch the sky. I can't remember the quote but I had a conversation with a man who went on for length about how reaching towards the sky was a sign of the end times. He also said that cloning was a sign of the end times. Cloning could be the answer to many medical problems and yet its prohibited in Islam. We're humans, our job is to expand.

Monotheistic religions were a thing of the Biblical/Roman/Medieval human period, and now we're progressing beyond that age. I guess we've now officially grown out of that.



Wastegal - prime example of a religious zealot. I used to sound like that, but I was 12 years old.

[The_Emperior5]

Its a belief no one can proof it as in a fact laakin allah exist that i am for sure

[Digital-Infidelity]

Dig-Thats interesting qoute^, put it in context...

Haud ok, like that made any sense, who said what belief is, just because something is not understood with sensory experience gamble...


Anyhow, We all question, its healthy. I still do on many things, but it just makes my iman strong, I wish you the best of luck and people who can actually hold these metaphsical conversations with you...

What the poor chap Wilde meant was since religion was first espoused by our primitive forefathers to make sense of much of the puzzles of the world. To make sense of issues and answers on questions of how the world came to be, why do we have day and night, why do some live and other die and whole league of similar question. Because of the many advances of science and Man's ability to answer and explain these and many other questions more effectively, that religions have lost their appeal and are not rel event as much as they were before.

Not that I agree with his assertions or any-thing. Just stating his curious observation

[DisplacedDiraac]

I've actually explored and studied all the major religions *with an open mind* and Islam is the only one that honestly makes sense to me. All the others are unclear and all they do is beat around the bush.
And who said the right religion has to prove something, shouldn't it just feel right

Anyway, I don't understand people, such as atheists, who choose not to believe in any religion or God.

If I was faithless and exporing, I would rather live my life as if there is a god and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't a god and die to find out there is *i like this quote*.

[The_Emperior5]

westlondon shawty the topic is not about islam christianity judiaisme or boudisme hindousime humunisme
its bout religon its self cant it be proven as a fact