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Re: Adultery in the Quran

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^ But if stoning isn't mentioned in the Quran whilst it is mentioned in many hadiths, how is that a contradiction? Do you know what a contradiction is? :|
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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:
Mad May wrote:^ You dont pay attention to the hadith? I'm not that learned when it comes to the deen but I swear the hadith was really important? :|
no! waryaaa, LET ME TELL YOU QURAN is much more important than hadiith becouse quran who known is 100% true AND ALLAHS WORD, but HADIITH problem is, no one even knowns how mny hadiith are out there. and hadiiths was collected 200 years after rasuuul nabi maxamed(scw) died.

so quran is a nr 1 source of islam. and if hadiith conradics quran so that hadiith is fake one.
without hadith, you wouldn't know the number of times to pray
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Re: Adultery in the Quran

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may,

Dr yalaxow is a qur'an only muslim. He doesn't believe in Hadiths
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Re: Adultery in the Quran

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muslim-man wrote:may,

Dr yalaxow is only muslim. He doesn't believe in Hadiths
I BELIEVE HADIITHS,THOSE hadiiths which are not conradics the quran,i dont belieave those who are contradics the quraan, and no one knowns how mny hadiith there are. and lot of them are fake. absoluty fals.

so STONING FOR ADULTRY IS FROM BIBEL, MIDKA YAHUUDA AND MIDKA KIRISTAANKA but not from quraan so IF HADIITH SAYS KILL THOSE WHO COMMIT ADULTRY THATS HADIITH IS 1000% FAKE HADIITH becouse quraan CLEARLY SAYS al zaaniyatu wanaaziyata 100 karbaash ku dhufta, quraankana ma kala saarin qofka inuu guur marey ama dheer yahay ama indhool yahay kaliya wxuuuu isku qabtey AL ZAANIYATA WA ZAANJATU sida uu quraanka isugu qabto AL MUUMUNINA WAL MUUMINAATI. ka waran haddii qof u fasirto al muumuniina wl muuminaati waxaa loola jeedaa muuminiinta aan guur marin. sida ay wadaadada ku macneeyaan AL ZAANIYATA WAZAAJIYATU WAXAA LOOLA JEEDAA QOFKA AAN GUURKA MARIN. bal halkee ayey ku qoran tahay beentooda. BIBELKA gaalada wax laga soo xadey ayey diinta ku qaribeeen.
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Re: Adultery in the Quran

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Mad May wrote:^ But if stoning isn't mentioned in the Quran whilst it is mentioned in many hadiths, how is that a contradiction? Do you know what a contradiction is? :|

contradiction is when quran says some think whichs adultry(100 lashes) and you find hadiith whichs says tottalt different thinkw hichs(killing) so thats hadiith conradics the word of ALLAH(QURAN) and we muslims the word of allah must be nr 1 source.

quran syas about adultry this read it
024.002 The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment. 024.003 Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry and but a woman similarly guilty, or an Unbeliever: nor let any but such a man or an Unbeliever marry such a woman: to the Believers such a thing is forbidden. 024.004 And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors;- 0

quraanka si cad ayuu u yiri
The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes:
ninka iyo naagta zineeysta 100 karbaash ku dhufta, quraanka ma kala saarin naag ama ninka inay nikaax mareen ama aysan marin, si cad ayuu u yiri NIN IYO NAAG whichs means ´waxay rabaan ha aadaan ha guursadaan, ha dheeraadaan, naagta jiis ha ahaato wax waliba waa 100 karbaash. quraankaa yiri sxb, marka xadiith sheegaya qofka DILA wa been abuur waaa FROM BIBEL-KA KIRISTAANKA ayaa oranaya DHAGAX KU DILA QOFKII ZINEEYSATA, we are christians sxb MAXAA BIBEL WAX KU OQORAN NAGA GALEY.
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Re: Adultery in the Quran

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dr dameer is making an ass out of himself, as usual :lol:

i think he\'s the first damreer to become a kaffir :mrgreen:
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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:BIBEL-KA KIRISTAANKA ayaa oranaya DHAGAX KU DILA QOFKII ZINEEYSATA, we are christians sxb MAXAA BIBEL WAX KU OQORAN NAGA GALEY.
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Re: Adultery in the Quran

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The Nomad wrote:BIBEL-KA KIRISTAANKA ayaa oranaya DHAGAX KU DILA QOFKII ZINEEYSATA, we are christians sxb MAXAA BIBEL WAX KU OQORAN NAGA GALEY.
WHAT I MEANT was ?we are(not) christians !!!

we are not christians .STONING FOR ADULTRY Is FROM BIBEL. you will not find it in our´quran:

nomad wahaabi SATAN IN the quran ALLAH subxaana watacalaaa SAYS
024.002 The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment. 024.003 Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry and but a woman similarly guilty, or an Unbeliever: nor let any but such a man or an Unbeliever marry such a woman: to the Believers such a thing is forbidden. 024.004 And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors;- 0
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ALLAH SI CAD ayuu u yiri naagtiii iyo ninkii zineeysta 100 karbaash kudhufta XITAAA 100KA karbash 4 witness la rabaaa whichs almost imposible MAASHA ALLAH.

allah is realy most Compassionate the Most Merciful indeeed.


STONING IS from BIBELKA AND DIINTA BEENTA AH EE KIRISTAANKA , its in BIBEL both yahuuud one and chrisitian one. so inkaari idinku dhacdee ISLAAMKIA HAKU been abuurinina
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Re: Adultery in the Quran

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Zina doesn't necessarily need 4 witnesses. The point is not that zina is so open that 4 people see it, but to prove with certainty that it happened because it's very unlikely that 4 respectable and known to be honest persons would lie about same thing. That's why pregnancy for example is a clear proof that woman had sex and witnesses are not needed.

Scholars who know both religion and technology well should put more effort to update fiqh into modern time. In these kind of cases they should study DNA-tests and other modern possibilities to determine all the things that can be taken into consideration when truth must be found without a shadow of doubt.

And Allah knows best.

Hukm of zaani is clear to everybody with an ounce of sincerity. Unfortunately there are some subservient people among muslims who feel the need to twist and re-interpret everything that conflicts with views and values of kuffaar, so these lost and confused people can be accepted by reer jahannam. What a humiliation...
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Re: Adultery in the Quran

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Salahuddiin wrote:Zina doesn't necessarily need 4 witnesses. The point is not that zina is so open that 4 people see it, but to prove with certainty that it happened because it's very unlikely that 4 respectable and known to be honest persons would lie about same thing. That's why pregnancy for example is a clear proof that woman had sex and witnesses are not needed.

Scholars who know both religion and technology well should put more effort to update fiqh into modern time. In these kind of cases they should study DNA-tests and other modern possibilities to determine all the things that can be taken into consideration when truth must be found without a shadow of doubt.

And Allah knows best.

Hukm of zaani is clear to everybody with an ounce of sincerity. Unfortunately there are some subservient people among muslims who feel the need to twist and re-interpret everything that conflicts with views and values of kuffaar, so these lost and confused people can be accepted by reer jahannam. What a humiliation...
your disregarding what allah said
And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors;-
alla said agains what sheekhs said!!

sheikhs are humans like you and me

and allah is waa dunidan abuurey.
inaaad xayawaaan duli ah tahay waxaad tiri
That's why pregnancy for example is a clear proof that woman had sex and witnesses are not needed.
bal xayawanimadaada MA ALLAH yiri 4 marqaati loo baahan yahay aad adigana leedahay pregnancy ayaa nagu filan, naagta uur waxay ku yeelan kartaa RAPE. waxay ku yeelan kartaa in qof DURG siiso iyadoon ogeeyn la uureeyo.

uur waxay ku yeelan kartaaa DHAR nin leeyahay sida surwaaal oo kale oo ay JUNAABO ama sperm worm ah ku taal ay xirato ka dibna UUR yeelato. so lets stick only whata allah said on hes word quraaan.

wixii kale waa shayaadiin. IN THE QURAN THERE IS NO STONING TO DEATH. just 100 karbaash for 4 witness and PREGNANCY IS NOT ANOUGH.


WAXAA JAHANAM GALAYA DADKA RAACA BUUGA GAALADA BIBELKA EE SHEEGAYA STONING, AANAN RAACIN KITAABKA ALLE QURAANKA EE SHEEGAYA SI CAD QOFKII ZINEYSTA IN LA KARBAASHO. karbaashtakana waa in lala yimaadaa 4 marqaati. UUUR MAAHA MARQAATI. sidaan kuu sheegay.
surwaaaal nin leeyahay si qalad naag haddii ay u xirat, SURWAAL FRESH SPERM ku taalo naagta uur ayey ku qaadi kartaaa. marka jaahil ayaa tahay sheeydaan
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Re: Adultery in the Quran

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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:waxay ku yeelan kartaaa DHAR nin leeyahay sida surwaaal oo kale oo ay JUNAABO ama sperm worm ah ku taal ay xirato ka dibna UUR yeelato.
Impossible! :lol: Sperm needs fluid to swim in. It immediately dies on cloth. :lol:
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Re: Adultery in the Quran

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the bovine mind at work :lol: :lol:
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Re: Adultery in the Quran

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Voltage wrote:
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:waxay ku yeelan kartaaa DHAR nin leeyahay sida surwaaal oo kale oo ay JUNAABO ama sperm worm ah ku taal ay xirato ka dibna UUR yeelato.
Impossible! :lol: Sperm needs fluid to swim in. It immediately dies on cloth. :lol:
accuallt its possible becouse warm sperm i lets say 37 degree centigrade FROM mans underwear. if women mistakenly thinks that underwear is here´s and wears it. thats possiblty if thats women hormons are ready she migthe get pregnent.

iam saying this for quraan says YOU NEED 4 WIttneses for convcition of adultry 4 wittness. QURAN never said, IF WOMENS gets pregnent then shes guilty of adultry. thats some stupid SHEEIKHS said pregnenty is proof of adultry. BUT what iam saying is you need beyond reasonable doubt in order to convict someone a crime.
beyond reasonable doubt
PREGNANCY CAN OCCURE if women ay si qalad nin kastuumadiisa u xirato oo FRESH sperm whit body temperature = 37 degrees Celsius spermadaas tahay.NAAGTA AY ready u tahay inay uur qaado. then spermkaas haddii ay women bahalkeeda taabato naagta uur waa qaadi kartaaa.

marka quraan says (beyond reasonable doubt = 4 witnesses 4 marqaaati LESS then that THE PERSON IS NOT GUILTY .
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ^^^^
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Re: Adultery in the Quran

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Skippa wrote:the bovine mind at work :lol: :lol:
Everytime Dr Yalaxoow, PhD talks I am reminded of the maahmaah nin buko boqol u tali....Don't worry about qualification, a Somali is at once a religious scholar, medical doctor, philosopher, engineer, and even blacksmith. :lol: :lol:
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