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FAH1223 wrote:somali business guys dont want to pay taxes sxb or right now they are paying al-shabab
That doesn't make sense, and its not true. No business man wants to be in a place where his entire business can disappear in the blink of an eye. They want the security to run their business, the idea that they don't want a government cause they don't wanna pay taxes is bullshit
shirib
i been 2 xamar and i have seen wat these business guyz have they dont want goverment man...they have their own malatia and suck the whole economic man while da rest of pple die for hunger bro...these men are greedy bro
There is a bigger agenda for the Somali Republic and it goes far beyond the so-called duty of "helping the improvised". The notion of peacekeeping is about having a neutral agenda, the Ugandans do not have neutrality and neither did the Ethiopians (because of the history between the two nations). There is also the problem of NGOs who are now the main stakeholders of the country, they are actually the ones who are in power - not Sharif or any another man wearing a suit.
Somalia well in actuality Mogadishu is better for the benefactors that it says it bedlam, but of course what they need to do is have the Northern parts of Somalia in somewhat peace (for strategic purposes) though both regions are owned, operated by NGOs, take an NGO away and Somaliland would be nothing (they were a big part of helping with the last election).
I honestly believe in my heart of hearts the era of qabiil has died and probably died years ago and is only being carried on by the people of the Diaspora (who should have made peace with their enemy and helped their people regardless of their clan affiliation). Now the important thing is to help the Somali people on ground who are actually suffering. There are 80,000 + Somalis in refugee camps in Kenya, that is a distrubing statistic.
Al-loco is just another agent made to cause chaos, and most are not Somalis (but all of you already know my stance on that issue). People are now aware of our weak point "clans" and will forthright use that against us - until we the people, say "enough" and let those old paid warlords in Parliament die with their ideology, then we can get our country back.
But what needs to stop is this "feeling sorry" for ourselves and how our country is a mess. It is, but we have the power to change that!
Things don't happen when you're sitting down on a computer, and spewing venom. But thinking, planning and coming up with solutions.
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it seems NGOs dont want somalia 2 stand on its feets and be independent from them..plus foriegn powers are fighting over us on proxy war...which means more of our pple die....its time we realise we being used n abused ..time 2 plan as u said ...inshallah our new generation will be better than the old dudes inshallah
I think Somalis will one day realize their mistake, when notice that they are the only Somali within a 50 mile radius and it isn't because the city is "not up to their standard" because the Somali population had decreased. But the fact is ciyaal it will be hard for Somalis to change because sadly 95% of them are "people of the bush". Because they only think about how to steal, and how to make money at the expense of others.
Just look at Sharif, the guy lived in a hut not too long ago. Now he's the president of a chaotic country and doesn't understand the basic functions of what it is to be a president. A president doesn't fly on private jets and shake hands with diplomats. They sit in their office, and plan on how to have ties with powerful nations, and how to feed their people, especially if they are from a country like Somalia.
So Somaliland and Puntland are peaceful because these NGOs want that part to be peacefull (strangely as you put it),and the South is in turmoil because that's how they want that part to be.It has nothing to do with the actions of the population of these locations
seemeyer wrote:So Somaliland and Puntland are peaceful because these NGOs want that part to be peacefull (strangely as you put it),and the South is in turmoil because that's how they want that part to be.It has nothing to do with the actions of the population of these locations
I didn't say anything about Puntland, because they don't wave around the independence banner every two seconds. Somaliland on the other hand is very dependent on NGOs without NGOs Somaliland is less non-exist then it already is.
So that period when the ICU werein charge and there was peace in Mogadisho and the surrounding areas that was due to these benevolant NGO miyaa.It had sweet fa to do with the people of that are.
seemeyer wrote:So that period when the ICU werein charge and there was peace in Mogadisho and the surrounding areas that was due to these benevolant NGO miyaa.It had sweet fa to do with the people of that are.
ICU and their "peace" is not something I have looked into. But anything Sharif and the warlord Hassan Aweys are part of - wouldn't be something that I would praise.
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Somaliland is peacefu; because the people of that region came to the conclusion that peace
brings hope and prosperity (Just like when the ICU were in power) and therefore was in their interest.These NGO you speak of are a by product of this decision and the fact that GOs are unable to function in Somaliland because of it's status as an unrecognised nation.
seemeyer wrote:^
Somaliland is peacefu; because the people of that region came to the conclusion that peace
brings hope and prosperity and therefore was in their interest.These NGO you speak of are a by product of this decision and the fact that GOs are unable to function in Somaliland because of it's status as an unrecognised nation.
Sadly, I can tell you have no knowledge about how things work in the real world. Keep thinking that Somaliland (who is like any other Somali region) have peace and function without the help of others. Just like Mogadishu is in the mess it is in because of the help of others.
Alluring wrote:I think Somalis will one day realize their mistake, when notice that they are the only Somali within a 50 mile radius and it isn't because the city is "not up to their standard" because the Somali population had decreased. But the fact is ciyaal it will be hard for Somalis to change because sadly 95% of them are "people of the bush". Because they only think about how to steal, and how to make money at the expense of others.
Just look at Sharif, the guy lived in a hut not too long ago. Now he's the president of a chaotic country and doesn't understand the basic functions of what it is to be a president. A president doesn't fly on private jets and shake hands with diplomats. They sit in their office, and plan on how to have ties with powerful nations, and how to feed their people, especially if they are from a country like Somalia.
corruption and my clan against ur clan attitude is gona kill somalis....as u said they will realise whn the population is less than one million which is too little 2 late
Calaacalka joojiya, somalia will be at war for the next 20,50, 100 years. You know why?
The world and somalis themselves dont want peace for this country.
Its Dar ul Harb/Qitaal.
Thank Allah there is still Djibouti, Somaliland and Kenya where i can visit for tourism
You cant establish a state with paid soldiers. You need volunteers. And if you cant bring in volunteers that means you're ideologically bankrupt & everybody around you is in it for the money.
