She became Muslim in 1992 but left 12 years later

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Re: She became Muslim in 1992 but left 12 years later

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Re: She became Muslim in 1992 but left 12 years later

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She's confused about the Islamic law and culture. She talks about how women are not being treated right in some cultures but she also talks about how the Quran gives women rights. The whole post seems to be talking about how some cultures abuse the Islamic law.
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Advo wrote:
After being married to several Muslim men and living in a Muslim country
I stopped reading there.
I skipped the entire thing and stopped reading here lol.
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i got in some arguments with those type of people
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Re: She became Muslim in 1992 but left 12 years later

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From light to darkness.
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Re: She became Muslim in 1992 but left 12 years later

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Alchemist wrote:From light to darkness.

Say a Dua for the Late Mahdi who returned many skinnies from Marxism to Islam.
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Advo wrote:
After being married to several Muslim men and living in a Muslim country
I stopped reading there.
:lol:
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:
Alchemist wrote:From light to darkness.

Say a Dua for the Late Mahdi who returned many skinnies from Marxism to Islam.
May Allah have mercy on his soul, may Allah grand him paradise Amiin Amiin.
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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:This is the verse i was talking about
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and Muhsin Khan translated like this
Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve
quran says not only jews and christians even whoever believes allah :shock: . this verse and even another verses in the quran which says jews and christians will end up heaven. islamic sheikhs said just this verses is abrogated :shock:


i wonder why not say also that wife beating verse is also abrogated?
what a nonsense ! do you even know the meaning of that verse? the Jews and Christians mentioned in that verse are meant by the ppl of Jesus and Moses that lived in their era and obeyed them bcoz the message of those two prophets were from God just like Prophet muhammed (PBUH) message. Bible and Gospel were holy scriptures and words of Allah but it was not preserved like Quran and were played a lot. so that verse does not apply on jews and christians in this time or even in prophet muhammeds time. If Jews and Christians were to end up in heaven then why was prophet Muhammed(pbuh) sent? because Judaism and Christianity were no longer valid religions since a lot of its verses were lost or changed/edited by humans.

a verse can only be abrogated (substituted) by another verse which comes later as the Quranic verses came in a series and not all ones. its not abrogated by modern or old time scholars or clerics, its abrogated by God when a more suitable and stronger verse is come.

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"Whatever Sign We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than that or the like thereof. Dost thou not know that Allah has the power to do all that He wills?"

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"O ye who believe! approach not Prayer when you are not in full possession of your senses, until you know what you say..."

this verse says that muslims should not pray or come near the mosque when they drink wine, this verse came before wine was forbidden so at that time muslims were allowed to drink but not pray while drunk.

but these two
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"O ye who believe! wine and the game of hazard and idols and divining arrows are only an abomination of Satan’s handiwork. So shun each one of them that you may prosper."

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"Satan desires only to create enmity and hatred among you by means of wine and the game of hazard, and to keep you back from the remembrance of Allah and from Prayer. But will you keep back?"

these two verses came later and they forbid drinking wine altogether. so the first verse which prohibited ppl from praying while drunk is substituted by these two. but what are you asking for here regarding the abrogation of the verse of wife beating or any other verse can never be done becoz its clear kufr you can't edit or revise verses of the Holy Quran.
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Are we supposed to discuss this, express shock , contemplate doing the same? Which is it :?
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^ Nah I just thought it'd be an interesting read.
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Beenaale_No1 wrote:^ Nah I just thought it'd be an interesting read.

You come across as man who has issues with Islam and its practices but doesn't have the heart to express his doubt about the deen, so you hide behind articles and stories that paint Islam in a bad light.
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934 wrote:
Beenaale_No1 wrote:^ Nah I just thought it'd be an interesting read.

You come across as man who has issues with Islam and its practices but doesn't have the heart to express his doubt about the deen, so you hide behind articles and stories that paint Islam in a bad light.
I cannot take criticism seriously from a full-blown racist.
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Re: She became Muslim in 1992 but left 12 years later

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Beenaale_No1 wrote:
934 wrote:
Beenaale_No1 wrote:^ Nah I just thought it'd be an interesting read.

You come across as man who has issues with Islam and its practices but doesn't have the heart to express his doubt about the deen, so you hide behind articles and stories that paint Islam in a bad light.
I cannot take criticism seriously from a full-blown racist.

lol...You accept the right of gays and apostates but denies my God given right to reject bantus?

Why not just come out of the closet son.
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Re: She became Muslim in 1992 but left 12 years later

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934 wrote:lol...You accept the right of gays and apostates but denies my God given right to reject bantus?

Why not just come out of the closet son.
Your extreme hate for Bantus is disturbing IMO, but alas, it is your right to hate them. As for gays and apostates, Im fine with their existence. They do not bother me in any shape or form. Akhira waa arin ayaga u taalo.

Nonetheless, I agree partly with DR-YALAXOOW view[s] in some cases.
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