I guess you don't understand what I've been saying this whole time, the choice isn't yours, it's what you are. Deal with it.Warriors wrote:Idk the reason why your running to the african Americans umbrella when their dysfunctional groupSultanOrder wrote: No, that's false. All these are just social constructs based on the white man's views. Who cares what african americans think we are, it's whites who control it. In the white man's eyes you are just new arrival of kunte kinte who was lucky enough not to be enslaved by his great grand pappyluck has very little to do with somalis not being slaves my ancestors were strong prideful people who didn't take kindly to foreigners while african american ancestors were weak timid people who were easily enslavedsomalia had different kings and Sultanates while african americans ancestors were running around naked in africa but that doesn't entitle you to special treatment, oh no, you still a nigga.
I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
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Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
@SultanOrder, what is the cadaan propaganda that you're claiming? You seem to be lumping all cadaans as if there is some conspiracy to bring maddows down. Believe it or not, cadaan people have contributed to the emancipation of slaves and the adoption of civil rights as much as there have been contribution from maddows. To this day, cadaans overwhelming sympathize the history of maddows in America. Despite the right-wing and dark forces among them, by and large, cadaan Americans sympathize maddows and would do every thing in their power to uplift them. After-all, the civil war between the South and North was about one side wanting to end slavery (North) and the other side wanted to maintain it (South). We're talking about 1860s here.
I have not been duped with any cadaan propaganda. I just don't buy the victimhood mentality that many people like you run with - where you blame all of the failings of maddows on cadaan people. Sir, what you and many others have is a hogwash. No cadaan man/woman is coming to the madow men and telling them to abandon their children. No cadaan fella is standing on the corner and selling drugs to maddow children in maddow neighborhoods. No cadaan is making young maddow men join gangs and kill their own. No cadaan is driving businesses from maddow neighborhoods. No cadaan man/woman is telling those maddows to destroy and burn their neighborhoods because they want to protest against few cases of police brutality. It is the maddow themselves doing all of that to themselves.
Keep in mind America - being 80% cadaan country - has voted for a black president, whose father came from Kenya, and whose mother was a single-mom who at some point received a welfare. The story of Obama is possible for all blacks if they want to go for it. Keep in mind this sitting black president was raised by his cadaan grandparents.
Believe all of that hogwash, fella. I just don't buy it, and it will not get maddow or any minority anywhere.
I have not been duped with any cadaan propaganda. I just don't buy the victimhood mentality that many people like you run with - where you blame all of the failings of maddows on cadaan people. Sir, what you and many others have is a hogwash. No cadaan man/woman is coming to the madow men and telling them to abandon their children. No cadaan fella is standing on the corner and selling drugs to maddow children in maddow neighborhoods. No cadaan is making young maddow men join gangs and kill their own. No cadaan is driving businesses from maddow neighborhoods. No cadaan man/woman is telling those maddows to destroy and burn their neighborhoods because they want to protest against few cases of police brutality. It is the maddow themselves doing all of that to themselves.
Keep in mind America - being 80% cadaan country - has voted for a black president, whose father came from Kenya, and whose mother was a single-mom who at some point received a welfare. The story of Obama is possible for all blacks if they want to go for it. Keep in mind this sitting black president was raised by his cadaan grandparents.
Believe all of that hogwash, fella. I just don't buy it, and it will not get maddow or any minority anywhere.
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Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
I think your the one who doesn't understand you can ask anybody if somalis are african americans from white to african Americans to somalis and they would all tell you somalis are somalis not african american yet you push this narrative that somalis=african american when no one believes itSultanOrder wrote:I guess you don't understand what I've been saying this whole time, the choice isn't yours, it's what you are. Deal with it.Warriors wrote:Idk the reason why your running to the african Americans umbrella when their dysfunctional groupSultanOrder wrote: No, that's false. All these are just social constructs based on the white man's views. Who cares what african americans think we are, it's whites who control it. In the white man's eyes you are just new arrival of kunte kinte who was lucky enough not to be enslaved by his great grand pappyluck has very little to do with somalis not being slaves my ancestors were strong prideful people who didn't take kindly to foreigners while african american ancestors were weak timid people who were easily enslavedsomalia had different kings and Sultanates while african americans ancestors were running around naked in africa but that doesn't entitle you to special treatment, oh no, you still a nigga.

Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
Tell themSultanOrder wrote:All you black haters, you guys don't even understand to the extent you have culturally brainwashed, desensitized, and made to hate black people in America. When the biggest criminals are whites, the people who have all the privileges are whites, the people who will steal from you in a suit are whites, the people who don't consider you any different than blacks are whites. Wake the fuck up and stop the cadaan bootyclapping!




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Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
I beg to differ, what I think of myself supersedes that of what everyone else thinks. How I perceive myself radiates outwards and it is serves as the base to which other's treat me. That's what separates me from them (other Americans). And no, I am very much Somali, irrespective of the population being small. I am Somali even if I'm the only one, I will forever be Somali and that is that. That is who I represent alone.SultanOrder wrote:
I don't know how to delicately say this, but no one gives a fuck what you classify yourself as except you, and you don't matter. You see, when you go an apply for that PHD in an Ivy League, they will see oh shes African American, she fill that quota of ours for Blacks or maybe they already have too many of those. You can pout and say, no I'm Somali American Canadian Martian for all you want, but that is not what they see, at most you will be seen as an interesting breed of African American. And in that sense, you will always be carrying all stereotypes and history of Blacks in this White society.

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Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
They outearn cadaans. So when an Afrocentric, self-hating, dashiki wearing, post-modernist gibberish spewing, anti-hamitic, negro aping, Somali regurgitates the phrase "White Privilege" to you, tell him or her: "I don't care like how a timo-jileec or an indayar doesn't care."RoobleAlWaliid wrote:samaalenoble wrote:Asians are not watching Baltimore Protest coverage.RoobleAlWaliid wrote:Race is such a big "thing" in America. Can you imagine the strongest and most powerful country can't even set an example to the world. A country where you have to check your race when applying for a job.
those figures...
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Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
Sorry to break it to you but you are in system you have no control over.Sophisticate wrote:I beg to differ, what I think of myself supersedes that of what everyone else thinks. How I perceive myself radiates outwards and it is serves as the base to which other's treat me. That's what separates me from them (other Americans). And no, I am very much Somali, irrespective of the population being small. I am Somali even if I'm the only one, I will forever be Somali and that is that. That is who I represent alone.SultanOrder wrote:
I don't know how to delicately say this, but no one gives a fuck what you classify yourself as except you, and you don't matter. You see, when you go an apply for that PHD in an Ivy League, they will see oh shes African American, she fill that quota of ours for Blacks or maybe they already have too many of those. You can pout and say, no I'm Somali American Canadian Martian for all you want, but that is not what they see, at most you will be seen as an interesting breed of African American. And in that sense, you will always be carrying all stereotypes and history of Blacks in this White society.
You are black hate it or love it.

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Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
There is no hope for this one he has resigned himself to AA, you could be whatever you like. I'm Somali first. Salaam.SultanOrder wrote:Sorry to break it to you but you are in system you have no control over.Sophisticate wrote:I beg to differ, what I think of myself supersedes that of what everyone else thinks. How I perceive myself radiates outwards and it is serves as the base to which other's treat me. That's what separates me from them (other Americans). And no, I am very much Somali, irrespective of the population being small. I am Somali even if I'm the only one, I will forever be Somali and that is that. That is who I represent alone.SultanOrder wrote:
I don't know how to delicately say this, but no one gives a fuck what you classify yourself as except you, and you don't matter. You see, when you go an apply for that PHD in an Ivy League, they will see oh shes African American, she fill that quota of ours for Blacks or maybe they already have too many of those. You can pout and say, no I'm Somali American Canadian Martian for all you want, but that is not what they see, at most you will be seen as an interesting breed of African American. And in that sense, you will always be carrying all stereotypes and history of Blacks in this White society.
You are black hate it or love it.

Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
Sxb your delusional if you think they get treated fair here in the states the white cops pick on them harassed them and is hard for them to get hired if they try to apply for job so no white people are not so great to african Americansgegiroor wrote:@SultanOrder, what is the cadaan propaganda that you're claiming? You seem to be lumping all cadaans as if there is some conspiracy to bring maddows down. Believe it or not, cadaan people have contributed to the emancipation of slaves and the adoption of civil rights as much as there have been contribution from maddows. To this day, cadaans overwhelming sympathize the history of maddows in America. Despite the right-wing and dark forces among them, by and large, cadaan Americans sympathize maddows and would do every thing in their power to uplift them. After-all, the civil war between the South and North was about one side wanting to end slavery (North) and the other side wanted to maintain it (South). We're talking about 1860s here.
I have not been duped with any cadaan propaganda. I just don't buy the victimhood mentality that many people like you run with - where you blame all of the failings of maddows on cadaan people. Sir, what you and many others have is a hogwash. No cadaan man/woman is coming to the madow men and telling them to abandon their children. No cadaan fella is standing on the corner and selling drugs to maddow children in maddow neighborhoods. No cadaan is making young maddow men join gangs and kill their own. No cadaan is driving businesses from maddow neighborhoods. No cadaan man/woman is telling those maddows to destroy and burn their neighborhoods because they want to protest against few cases of police brutality. It is the maddow themselves doing all of that to themselves.
Keep in mind America - being 80% cadaan country - has voted for a black president, whose father came from Kenya, and whose mother was a single-mom who at some point received a welfare. The story of Obama is possible for all blacks if they want to go for it. Keep in mind this sitting black president was raised by his cadaan grandparents.
Believe all of that hogwash, fella. I just don't buy it, and it will not get maddow or any minority anywhere.


Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
@SultanOrder, I would also add there are no maddow slaves in America today, their parents have not been, and their grandparents have not been as well. No living maddow individual today knows anyone who was a slave. Therefore, the story of maddow being slaves is in the history books, and it can't be an excuse for them to take shelter whenever they fail or face obstacles. F'ck them and their inferiority complex. They are the worst enemies to themselves.
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Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
illlahayoow nin wax ogeyn ha cadaabin.gegiroor wrote:@SultanOrder, what is the cadaan propaganda that you're claiming? You seem to be lumping all cadaans as if there is some conspiracy to bring maddows down. Believe it or not, cadaan people have contributed to the emancipation of slaves and the adoption of civil rights as much as there have been contribution from maddows. To this day, cadaans overwhelming sympathize the history of maddows in America. Despite the right-wing and dark forces among them, by and large, cadaan Americans sympathize maddows and would do every thing in their power to uplift them. After-all, the civil war between the South and North was about one side wanting to end slavery (North) and the other side wanted to maintain it (South). We're talking about 1860s here.
I have not been duped with any cadaan propaganda. I just don't buy the victimhood mentality that many people like you run with - where you blame all of the failings of maddows on cadaan people. Sir, what you and many others have is a hogwash. No cadaan man/woman is coming to the madow men and telling them to abandon their children. No cadaan fella is standing on the corner and selling drugs to maddow children in maddow neighborhoods. No cadaan is making young maddow men join gangs and kill their own. No cadaan is driving businesses from maddow neighborhoods. No cadaan man/woman is telling those maddows to destroy and burn their neighborhoods because they want to protest against few cases of police brutality. It is the maddow themselves doing all of that to themselves.
Keep in mind America - being 80% cadaan country - has voted for a black president, whose father came from Kenya, and whose mother was a single-mom who at some point received a welfare. The story of Obama is possible for all blacks if they want to go for it. Keep in mind this sitting black president was raised by his cadaan grandparents.
Believe all of that hogwash, fella. I just don't buy it, and it will not get maddow or any minority anywhere.
Yes victimized mentality is based on real grievances to this day. Yes you have been brain washed to believe cadaan man is the savior.
Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
eliteSomali wrote:You are not racist in telling the truth. White people are the real criminals of this country. First, they stole the country and wiped out the indigenous people. Second, they brought slaves to build the country from scratches. Despite this, black people need to realize that looting and burning businesses will depict them as the savages and the criminals portrayed on TV which is what white people want. African Americans weren't allowed to vote a mere 60 years ago, so why do white folks think everything is normal? They kill unarmed black teenagers and most of these criminal cops get away with these crimes and they expect no response? Black people need to be smarter than this if they want to come out on top.

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Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
There are no slaves in chains today, but believe me we do have a slave type economy where one group has benefited from the oppression and labor of another group.gegiroor wrote:@SultanOrder, I would also add there are no maddow slaves in America today, their parents have not been, and their grandparents have not been as well. No living maddow individual today knows anyone who was a slave. Therefore, the story of maddow being slaves is in the history books, and it can't be an excuse for them to take shelter whenever they fail or face obstacles. F'ck them and their inferiority complex. They are the worst enemies to themselves.
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Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
I think when ppl are referencing cadaans they're referencing the power structure (those on top), not individuals.
I think ppl like gegiroor are vastly underestimating the systematic racism that exists to madows tho. Like referencing the classic 40 year old cadaan guy with a pick up truck "slavery was a long time ago, get over it" talking point? That's some adeer tom shid, stop trying to desperately disassociate yourself from madows, like you are superior. You're not.
My personal view is niggaz need to take the L, get over the hurdles thrown at them and breakthrough. Complaining gets you nowhere.
I think ppl like gegiroor are vastly underestimating the systematic racism that exists to madows tho. Like referencing the classic 40 year old cadaan guy with a pick up truck "slavery was a long time ago, get over it" talking point? That's some adeer tom shid, stop trying to desperately disassociate yourself from madows, like you are superior. You're not.
My personal view is niggaz need to take the L, get over the hurdles thrown at them and breakthrough. Complaining gets you nowhere.
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Re: I don't want to be racist but this is getting out of hand!
Sophisticate wrote:There is no hope for this one he has resigned himself to AA, you could be whatever you like. I'm Somali first. Salaam.SultanOrder wrote:
I beg to differ, what I think of myself supersedes that of what everyone else thinks. How I perceive myself radiates outwards and it is serves as the base to which other's treat me. That's what separates me from them (other Americans). And no, I am very much Somali, irrespective of the population being small. I am Somali even if I'm the only one, I will forever be Somali and that is that. That is who I represent alone.
Sorry to break it to you but you are in system you have no control over.
You are black hate it or love it.
Hey kids, pick your majors carefully in college because you just might come out a confused and spineless, calaacal machine.

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