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Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

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Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby Midhisho » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:23 pm

Salam Brothers

I want to discuss the new entity of eastern Saanag that has proclaimed itself as
Maakhir state . Personally I was very sad when I heard the incident at Mayjihiyan where an elder of warsangeli tribe was machinegunned down by Puntland charcoal traders . I've seen pictures of eastern Sanaag even tough it doesn't rival sheeyk and Eil Afweyne and Surud forests of Ceerigaabo , but the great Cal Madow of West Sanaag with Shimbiris Somalias highest peak truly exstends to Warsangeli land.
Who has ever heard of Warsanghelia johannis one of the rarest birds in the world.
But still there is something rotten in the state of Maakhir .
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8340 ... mapzp1.jpg

Col Jibrell Ali Salad the creator of the new state claims to have visited Erigavo and other western towns such as Yube , Damalla , Hagare .
From where I stand I think we have to take of the silky gloves and from a cultural tribalistic stand of view not let another entity claim and territory it does not own.
Maakhir state excluded those cities is perfectly fine with me and if it waves the green , white and red Somaliland thats even better.
But if the whole project is a tribal thing they must know that from this map places such as Maydh , Xiis , Erigavo , Hundegal , Helem Bahaila , Midhisho cannot be part of their ambitions.
I have taken som shots from Google earth to demonstrate from you what Maakhir state really is in reality.
From this information this is how Maakhir state looks like in reality.

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2739 ... atetd2.jpg

Som keywords and facts

Las Koray future main port
Ceelayo furtherst border city to Puntland Somalia
Xingalool most southern city of Maakhir
Badhan the capital
and Hadaaftimo most western city .
other cities Buraan and Dhahar most eastern.
Infrastructe : poor : the unpaved road from Las Koray to Bosaaso
Dhahar connected up to Garowe - Bosaaso highway.
Threaths
Puntland : Karkaar region and charcoal traders
Enemy interests in Las Koray port as well.

Most likely this new state will rely very much on both Somaliland and Puntland to survive. It has only two hospitals and nothing more not even an airport or a strong diaspora. Warsangeli comprise less than 3 % of North West Somalia .
If it gets a rough start where Erigvao cuts of communication and trade it has to rely very much on Bosaaso and if Garowe cuts communication and trade from there aswell then ..... its probably not going to be a dynamic entity .

About Sool
If the dholbahante tribe is capable of doing the same as their kinsfolk
and proclaim a Sool or dervish state this is the map it will rely on where they reside . As you can see they will loose one third of its original size .
The district of Caynabo , but they will gain Buuhoodle district of Togdheer instead.
From infrastructure they may be cut off from Burco and from there loose badly needed healthcare , trade and communication. Sool is one of the poorest regions of all of Somalia .
Laas Anood will have to rely on Garowe .
Infrastructure : 0
Strategic interests : 0 unless Hargeisa goes to war against Garowe .
Threats
Sool state will have serious problems with Ethiopia and illegal border movement perhaps from ONLF .

example map of a Sool state
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7121 ... atexw8.jpg


This is a map of Sool region with Caynabo
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/232/soolstatesv5.jpg

At last one question

Can there exist some sort of a Maakhir and Sool state ?
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/9015/sscsomalile8.jpg

What is called SSC , will the warsangelis bow to Dholbahante gaaradka guudka ?
And will Puntland that has the upper hand on both entities allow such creations.

PS

From this message I have excluded one important town and one subclan of Habar Younis , the Sacad Yonis that is said to reside in NorthWest Sool
And aswell Adhi Adeeye deep inside Sool around 30 km from Las Anood.
Adhi Adeeye is a Somaliland stronghold and military base.
Jidali is said to be a town of Naaleeye Ahmed subclan of Dholbahante its in the middle between Sanaag and " Maakhir " .

I hope for an interesting debate '

thank you
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Re: Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby neocon_2007 » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:32 pm

Viva Warsangeliland, Maakhir state Cool

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Re: Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby MJ-Pride » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:33 pm

It does not matter at all. Puntland will make sure to destory these wantaway minorities. Puntland wont' give up on any of its land

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Re: Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby neocon_2007 » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:36 pm

Good luck trekking over the landscape make sure u dont trip on land mines up

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Re: Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby paidmonk » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:36 pm

Slaughter the Warsangali rebels. up

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Re: Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby neocon_2007 » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:38 pm

We want Bosasso back Surprised

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Re: Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby Midhisho » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:41 pm

Hello guys and girl

I hope you will look at the maps and read again.

one question

Why won't you puntlanders let go of East Sanaag
And for the Maakhirian
Why is your own state so important for you .
And do you hope it to join SomalilandSanaag or a federal Somalia under the jurisdiction of Puntland state.

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Re: Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby paidmonk » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:46 pm

Midhiso, we want nothing to do with Warsangali and Dulbahanta flip floppers, we just give them the support to attack Somaliland and get their freedom back.

If I could, I would break Puntland and have every sub-clan fight for his own damn good. up

Then again, it is THEY who want ME! Cool

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Re: Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby neocon_2007 » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:48 pm

Somaliland Sanaag whats that. Confused

If it werent for us SL would have galkacyo today Surprised Sad

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Re: Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby paidmonk » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:49 pm

True.

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Re: Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby zackabdul » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:54 pm

I say let them go.. what good do they do for us? I believe PL should be exclusively Majeerteen.

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Re: Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby Midhisho » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:54 pm

Hi Guys

please look at the maps again and compare with the Maakhir map .
its reality against fantasy .

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Re: Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby The_Emperior5 » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:57 pm

war habaryoonis wax bay ku leeyihin maakhirland

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Re: Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby neocon_2007 » Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:00 pm

Emperior why do u say Confused Laughing Laughing Laughing


Zack I somewhat agree, this region hasnt had any development pre-war or post-war all the merchants of Las Qorey left for Bosasso and never returned. So it really isnt much for PL but only to have close ties and a relations as we are kin, Harti. Smile

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Re: Where is Maakhir Warsangeli state located ?

Postby Cartan Boss » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:41 am

Midhisho stop hating man who lives East and South of Erigavo? Naleye Axmed ofcourse, places like Xagal, Masagan Valley, Ardaa, Fardo Joog,
From Las Anod To Jiidali is Naleye Axmed Land(500km). See how close Jiidali is to the Sea, We (dhuloos) r planning to establish a port near Jiidali.

What a load of rubbish, Sacad Yonis ba Adhicadeye degan kulaha listen dhuloos border with idoor is 100km away from Adhicadeeye.
Tuulo Samakab, Sixawle, Yagoori, Wadhake, Guumays all those towns r located North of Adhicadeye.

First Mayor Erigavo=Guleed Dheere, Dhuloos
PL vice president is from Erigavo too
Fagadhe is aslo from Erigavo


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