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Ahmadinejad lays down the gauntlet

Postby Grant » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:21 am

Ahmadinejad’s Aggressive Nuclear Policy Prevails in Tehran
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report and Analysis
October 20, 2007, 2:37 PM (GMT+02:00)

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has laid down the gauntlet.
Having prevailed over the more pragmatic elements of the Islamic Republican
regime headed by supreme ruler Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, he and his Revolutionary
Guards are challenging the United States to do its worst.
Saturday, Oct. 20, the fire-eating president succeeded in removing the
formidable Iranian nuclear negotiator, head of the National Security Council,
Ali Larijani, from his path. He then sent the Revolutionary Guards missile and
artillery commander, Gen. Mahmoud Chaharbaghshe, to warn that, in the first
minute of an attack on Iran, the Islamic Republic would fire 11,000 missiles and
mortars against enemy (US and Israeli) bases. The scale of ordnance threatened
implied Tehran’s certainty that Syria, Hizballah, Hamas and the pro-Iranian
militias in Iraq would join the assault.
DEBKAfile’s Iran sources report that the president’s venture into brinkmanship points to his confidence
that neither the US not Israel can or will dare to strike at Iran’s clandestine
nuclear facilities. Khamenei has shown no sign as yet of reining him in.
The Russian president Vladimir Putin’s visit last week to Tehran was a
disappointment to the clerical rulers. Contracts for the Russians to complete
the Bushehr atomic reactor and supply the fuel for its activation were not
signed during that visit, although they had been drawn up previously between
Larijani and the head of the Russian Nuclear Energy Commission Sergei Kiriyenko
in Moscow.
At the last minute, Ahmadinejad, backed up by the IRGC chiefs, put his foot down
against Putin’s pre-condition which was incorporated in the contract for a joint
Russian-Iranian mechanism to oversee the reactor and guarantee its non-use for
weapons production.
Putin made a last attempt to talk Tehran round in a long conversation with the
supreme ruler Wednesday, Oct. 17, before he flew out of Tehran.
Initially, there were reports that the Russian president had presented new
proposals for solving the crisis, which Khamenei promised to seriously examine.
The Iranian News Agency IRNA then quoted Khamenei as saying noncommittally: “We
will ponder your words and proposal.”
However, on Friday, Oct. 19, Ahmadinejad made remarks which contradicted
statements by the supreme ruler and Larijani. He denied that Putin had brought
any new proposals to Tehran on the Bushehr nuclear reactor. This denial had the
effect of presenting Larijani as a failure. His efforts to achieve a new set of
Iranian-Russian nuclear contracts and a breakthrough for Tehran that would have
kept Moscow in the international camp opposed to tougher UN Security Council
sanctions were shown up as useless.
The Iranian president had manipulated the episode in such a way as to leave the
nuclear negotiator no option but to quit.
In contrast to the ultra-radicals, Larijani is described by DEBKAfile’s Iranian
sources as a practical diplomat who believed in a compromise that would let Iran continue its uranium
enrichment process and develop its nuclear program, up to the point of weapons
capability, without taking the final step of actually making a bomb.
His humiliation marks the further rise in Ahmadinejad’s influence and his
unimpeded drive to go all the way to a military showdown with the United States
and Israel over Iran’s nuclear ambitions. In private conversations in Tehran,
the president argues that neither is in a position to go to war against the
Islamic Republic.
Our military sources stress that the Iranian nuclear program no longer relies
exclusively on uranium enrichment to attain a weapon, but has also turned to
plutonium as an alternative path to a weapons capacity. The Bushehr reactor is a
matter or national pride in Iran, but whether or not it is activating does not
affect its military nuclear plans one way or another.
The production of plutonium for weapons is relatively simple and cheap, a fact
that was exposed by Israel’s air strike in northern Syria on Sept. 6.
If even Syria can build a small nuclear reactor for plutonium production with
North Korean help, there is no reason to assume that Iran has not built an
active reactor of this kind and is hiding it underground.
While much has been made of North Korea’s input for Syrian’s nuclear activities,
little has been said about Iran’s assistance, which DEBKAfile’s intelligence
sources estimate as far more substantial. In other words, North Korea is not the
only nuclear proliferators; Iran is consistently violating its commitments under
the Non-Proliferation Accord by passing its military nuclear secrets to Syria.




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Re: Ahmadinejad lays down the gauntlet

Postby Basra- » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:30 am

Grant aaahh u are alive? Mad Rolling Eyes

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Re: Ahmadinejad lays down the gauntlet

Postby Grant » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:39 am

No, Suzanne, I died and went to Heaven. That's why I'm posting here. Laughing

You know how dead people are, always taking an interest in current events.... Cool

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Re: Ahmadinejad lays down the gauntlet

Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:39 am

DEBAKA likes to do a lot of scare mongering. If the US and Israel are reluctant to apply military force against Iran, the Iranians are incapable of applying much against the US and would invite massive retaliation from the Israelis. Iran is not as tough as its president seems to think it is. the US is quite capable of hammering it with conventional weapons, and I do mean hammering. Global oil supplies, which the global economy depends on, prevents this from happening. Of course, the Iranian economy also depends on the export of oil, so it's a two edged sword for them as well.

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Re: Ahmadinejad lays down the gauntlet

Postby Grant » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:15 am

I think the significant parts of this article were the loss of Larijani and the rejection of Russian oversight of the reactor. That does seem to change the equation, at least for the Russians.

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Re: Ahmadinejad lays down the gauntlet

Postby Dr.Galbeyte. » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:22 am

Ahmedinejad is respectable man... Somalia need a president like him..

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Postby Dr.Galbeyte. » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:23 am

DP......Shocked

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Re: Ahmadinejad lays down the gauntlet

Postby *jr » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:32 am

"....in the first minute of an attack on Iran, the Islamic Republic would fire 11,000 missiles and mortars against enemy (US and Israeli) bases."

This would be why attacking Iran is NOT like attacking Iraq....Iraq could not fight back. Iran can and will.

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Re: Ahmadinejad lays down the gauntlet

Postby Gedo_Boy » Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:06 pm

North Korea played the brinksmanship game and were not attacked.

Iran being a relatively sophisticated country politically (as far as that region goes), the writing is on the wall for them and they have seen how nearly 15 years of sanctions led to the eventual attack of Iraq.

The moral of the story is to up the ante while it will still be costly for your enemy & you still have cards left to play. A relatively simple concept really.

That's why Iraq was such a failure. Because they got the world to buy Iraq was a serious threat and are now caught w/ their pants down b/c Iran is a real nuclear threat and the US has cashed in all their credibility.

A serious miscalculation.

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Postby Megatron » Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:19 pm

^^ EXcellent points.

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Re: Ahmadinejad lays down the gauntlet

Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:45 pm

"That's why Iraq was such a failure. Because they got the world to buy Iraq was a serious threat and are now caught w/ their pants down b/c Iran is a real nuclear threat and the US has cashed in all their credibility.

A serious miscalculation."

This is absolutely correct. Short of an Iranian miscalculation in which the Iranians actually launch ome sort of first strike, the US lacks the political capital to move on Iraq.

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Re: Ahmadinejad lays down the gauntlet

Postby *jr » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:43 pm

America knows Iran is considerably more militarily capable than the opponents America has chosen to start wars with in the past 60 years. Sure America is more than capable of attacking Iran, but it would be a colossal mistake, and they know it.

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Re: Ahmadinejad lays down the gauntlet

Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:47 pm

Militarily Iran presents certain geograghic challenges. No doubt about it. But from a strictly military perspective, we could certainly defeat their armed forces and at reasonable cost. It's the economic cost to the global economy and the political cost.... that is where there's just no capital. So we have a Mexican stand off for the moment.

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Re: Ahmadinejad lays down the gauntlet

Postby *jr » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:04 pm

As I've said earlier US attack on Iran would be a tremendous mistake. So catastrophic that even the buSh administration should see that. On the other hand, buSh and his cohorts have shown themselves to be irrational in the past.

I'm betting on we would first see some Generals start to suddenly resign, then we'll know its on. That will be the signal of coming catastrophe.

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Re: Ahmadinejad lays down the gauntlet

Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:47 am

But what of the Iranian part? Any chance they will miscalculate, and try to attack US ships in the gulf, or launch missiles at Israel???


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