half somali half oromo

[grandpakhalif]

Oromos, which tribes are 100% muslim?

Jaarso? What else?

[bareento]

Oromos, which tribes are 100% muslim?

Jaarso? What else?

Jaarsoo is a small sub-sub clan

On tribe level here r those who r predominantly muslim
All afran qalloo is Muslim
All Ituu is Muslim
Big part of Karayyuu is muslim
All (almost) Arsi is Muslim
Jimmaa is all Muslim
All Oromo speaking Walloo is muslim

There r pockets of muslim Population in all other oromo tribes.

Jaarso is a sub-sub-clan of Afran Qalloo ( it goes this way Jaarso-Daga-Qalloo).

B.

[St8OuttaDirree]

Oromos, which tribes are 100% muslim?

Jaarso? What else?

Jaarsoo is a small sub-sub clan

On tribe level here r those who r predominantly muslim
All afran qalloo is Muslim
All Ituu is Muslim
Big part of Karayyuu is muslim
All (almost) Arsi is Muslim
Jimmaa is all Muslim
All Oromo speaking Walloo is muslim

There r pockets of muslim Population in all other oromo tribes.

Jaarso is a sub-sub-clan of Afran Qalloo ( it goes this way Jaarso-Daga-Qalloo).

B.

Jimmaa aint a clan, rather a city. The people of Jimmaa are maccaa, and i never knew this but there is a large minority group of musilm wollegas.
And you forgot the Aniyaa, they are all muslim.

[Oxidant]

What percentage of Oromos are Muslims?

[Basra-]

bodhi aint u one of them? and an athiest too?

[galia]

Oromo's are good people Great music. They should have been part of somalia than ethiopia.

[St8OuttaDirree]

What percentage of Oromos are Muslims?

On Wikipedia it says something like 47 %, but i'm sure its more then that. Something like 65 - 75 % sounds right.

[The_Patriot]

Barentu aka Ras Gobena tell me when Amharas were ever nation builders?
What have they built that you are proud of ?
If its poverty then you are right.

But Amharas were never influential all they did is to exploit the chance of collaborating with the white colonialists in return for recognition, state of art weapons.
Was it not Ras Gobena that helped him subjugate the Oromo masses and forced them to change their culture religion name and I dentity just like Kunta Kinte of USA?

Menelik 2 was just a lice infested 'empror ' who was half naked and lived in castles left by the Portoguese just like the one they built in Mombasa (Fort Jesus).

History accoounts that this tyrant only become wealthy when he ransacked Wollo and Harar. Thats where the Abysinian wealth or pride was got from.

If Amharas were builders this farmers would have built canals across their land exploiting the R Nile.
So you cannot make a comparison between Somalis and Amharas.
Somalis have anarchists , warriors, enterprenuers etc.

Mind you the Ogaden however much the most deprived region in Ethiopia, their populace have a better living standard than the Amhara.

All the So called Amharas that are shouting are found in Addis and mostly are of Oromo origin or other ethnicities. While in the Amhara Kilil they are very very primitive.

Seems like you have beleived in all the lies you wer fed when you were growing up all Amhara benefited from was just being landlords and exploting other ethnic groups through an administrative system that was parasitic in nature.

So why do you need Amhara as an Oromo? or Do they signify the Brain power while Oromos are the working class?

[bareento]

Barentu aka Ras Gobena tell me when Amharas were ever nation builders?
What have they built that you are proud of ?
If its poverty then you are right.

But Amharas were never influential all they did is to exploit the chance of collaborating with the white colonialists in return for recognition, state of art weapons.
Was it not Ras Gobena that helped him subjugate the Oromo masses and forced them to change their culture religion name and I dentity just like Kunta Kinte of USA?

Menelik 2 was just a lice infested 'empror ' who was half naked and lived in castles left by the Portoguese just like the one they built in Mombasa (Fort Jesus).

History accoounts that this tyrant only become wealthy when he ransacked Wollo and Harar. Thats where the Abysinian wealth or pride was got from.

If Amharas were builders this farmers would have built canals across their land exploiting the R Nile.
So you cannot make a comparison between Somalis and Amharas.
Somalis have anarchists , warriors, enterprenuers etc.

Mind you the Ogaden however much the most deprived region in Ethiopia, their populace have a better living standard than the Amhara.

All the So called Amharas that are shouting are found in Addis and mostly are of Oromo origin or other ethnicities. While in the Amhara Kilil they are very very primitive.

Seems like you have beleived in all the lies you wer fed when you were growing up all Amhara benefited from was just being landlords and exploting other ethnic groups through an administrative system that was parasitic in nature.

So why do you need Amhara as an Oromo? or Do they signify the Brain power while Oromos are the working class?

Patriot,

Politics is not about who did u wrong in the past, politics is about how to change the present and build better future.
If politics were about past wrong doings , i wouldnt have even pronounced the names of Ras Gobena and alike.
At Calanqo, my own sub-sub clan was almost annihilated...we lost liberty, wealth and dignity after that defeat!

Since then, the balance of power is at our disadvantage , and wont change in forseeble future...and Oromo need an ally.
The logical and natural ally would have been the Ogadeni ...but I came to think there is interest conflict!

Thats when, I came up with a completely new and maverick theory: why not change Oromos goal?
From undoing the 19th century defeats to only undoing the unjustice the defeat created; in that case Amharas are the best allys.
The first step in applying this theory, is to reread the history of Gobena and alikes, in new completely different light.
One should be bold enough to go beyond his petty clan's history and embrasse the whole nation: for me its difficult but I am doing my best.

So far this theory brought me mockeries and some resounding slaps: but its the fate of theoricians to accepet
criticism with joy even when its in the form of slaps.

My good friend, u justly pointed out the primitivism of Amhara peasantry, and the warriorness
of Somalis...except that is irrelevent to our current discussion.

U know that Amharas are empire builders; you questionning that is just plain rhetorics...

Nagayatti

B.

[DisplacedDiraac]

I only know one person and the mother is Somali.
But i do know alot of half Somali half Habashi people.

[The_Patriot]

Barentu, So are you mixed thats what we call mushakal between Amhara/Oromo?
Tell me how did the oromo masses benefit from the gobena siding with amharas?
I bet most of the ancestors of this gobenas call themselves Amharas not 'Gallas'

Why I mentioned Amharas being Primitive and Somalis being warriors is a point I needed to raise with you.
You mentioned Amharas are netion buliders and I refuted it even we well know that Haile Selasie fled the country when Italians invaded it and we know that for 8 yrs there was no Amhara resistance till the British from Kenya marched in and reinstated him.
They then gave him financial assistance and till to date Ethiopia is addicted to the freign aid and people in Oromia are poverty striken and shoeless while Oromia is one of Africas richest regions.
Could you explain why Ethiopia is very poor as compared to other nations in Africa yet it was never colonised and there was less civil unrests as compared to its neighbours?

Barentu you one one person who believes that hitting ones head on the wall will crack it while all I just want to tell you is learn from History.

Oromo do not need Amhara unless you are an Amhara wana bee or A wolve in sheeps clothing.
Why not unite with other ethnic groups like Sidamo, waleita, Beni shengul, hiz boch, Gurage etc and thus try to make change rather than sustain the current crisis? are you are Naftenya ?

[bareento]

Patriot,

If warriorness was determining point, oromos should have had a country by now!
Warriorness need a political structure to transform it into a country...unfortunately Somalis and Oromos lack this kind of structure.

Somais have no idea how Oromos fought bare handed against abyssinians; its unseen in history!
Arsi mobilized more than 200 000 strong army; half Arsi population was dead in those wars! they fought by spears against canons and rifles!
Afran Qallo bravely fought against Menelik, after 15 years of resistnce against Egypt!

The question is why all this braveness is not transformed into a state! The same is true with Somalis! why?

This needs thorough and maverick analysis; I invite u to do it...its about the political structure of these two nations.

I am not neftenyaa, I am a theoritians! I invent theories concerning almost everything

B.

[The_Patriot]

Patriot,

If warriorness was determining point, oromos should have had a country by now!
Warriorness need a political structure to transform it into a country...unfortunately Somalis and Oromos lack this kind of structure.

Somais have no idea how Oromos fought bare handed against abyssinians; its unseen in history!
Arsi mobilized more than 200 000 strong army; half Arsi population was dead in those wars! they fought by spears against canons and rifles!
Afran Qallo bravely fought against Menelik, just after 15 years resistnce agianst Egypt!

The question is why all this braveness is not transformed into a state! The same is true with Somalis? why?

This needs thorough and maverick analysis; I invite to do it...its about the political structure of these two nations.

I am not neftenyaa, I am a theoritians! I invent theories concerning almost everything

B.

Bareentu why are you becoming defensive? I did not say Oromos never fought?
I do know of their struggle and how the gobenas plus the colonialsts ganged on the Oromos and the air bombardment of oromo rebels by the Brits in the mid 1930's in a bid to crush the rebelion.
What I wanted to refute is the point of Amharas being Nation builders while oromos being savage gala and Somalis being Shirtam. This is the way the Amhara wanted to potray ech ethnic group in the region while they justified their occupation and corruption.

You need also to be a pragmatist how are you a theoritician while the books you read seem to reveal they were written by Tedessa?

[bareento]

Patriot,

The worst thing about stereotypes is that they have some kind of truth in them...
Somalis and Oromos were in no position of transforming their military victorys in state building...Amharis formulate this saying Oromos r Gallas and Somalis are shirritaam!


This inability is oftentimes explained by historical opportunities of Amaharas; I want to go beyond this usual lame excuses and analyse the facts.
Thats is why I say, its easier/realistic for Oromos to use the existing Ethiopian state structure, than destroying and creating another new one (that I doubt Oromos or Somalis capable of). And in this case using Amharas is pragmatism

B.

[The_Patriot]

Patriot,

The worst thing about stereotypes is that they have some kind of truth in them...
Somalis and Oromos were in no position of transforming their military victorys in state building...Amharis formulate this saying Oromos r Gallas and Somalis are shirritaam!


This inability is oftentimes explained by historical opportunities of Amaharas; I want to go beyond this usual lame excuses and analyse the facts.
Thats is why I say, its easier/realistic for Oromos to use the existing Ethiopian state structure, than destroying and creating another new one (that I doubt Oromos or Somalis capable of). And in this case using Amharas is pragmatism

B.

Dude isnt it Ironic that the Amharas were able to 'defeat' Oromo and Somalis but were defeated by 3 million Tigrayans?
If you say its the Eritreans that helped them then you and I know that Menelik would never have left Gonder if the Brits, Italians and French did not provide an extended hand.

civilised people leave tracks , The phaores left Pyramids, the greeks and Romans left buildings and many more?
but yet I have to come across what the Amharas built apart from inventing famine and poverty.

All I want to tell you is you need to leave at least some space for other authors seems like too much Hailu, Tedesa influences in you. I hope you also did not make Tera sega your staple food.