The Qur'an says Arabs are the WORST of creation
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The Qur'an says Arabs are the WORST of creation
"The Arabs are strongest in disbelief and hypocrisy and are more likely to not know the limits of what (laws) Allah has revealed to His Messenger. And Allah is Knowing and Wise. And among the Arabs are some who consider what they spend as a loss and await for you turns of misfortune. Upon them will be a misfortune of evil. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing." (Surah 9 verses 97-98).
So whoever was thinking of saving the Arabs equals saving Islam think again loool
So whoever was thinking of saving the Arabs equals saving Islam think again loool
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Re: The Qur'an says Arabs are the WORST of creation
Don't use the Qur'an to score cheap points.
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Re: The Qur'an says Arabs are the WORST of creation
Its the somalis who use the Deen for their excuses in loving arabs and desiring to be their servants. I am just showing them that they cannot use this excuse anymore as the Deen is for humankind and doesnt represent Arabs in anyway, just like the Jews dont rerpresent Jesus (as)Firefly wrote:Don't use the Qur'an to score cheap points.
Re: The Qur'an says Arabs are the WORST of creation
Arab this,arab that. Waar take your shit somewhere else. 

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I don't know why Somalis are so fixated with Arabs. There's a topic on how horrible Arabs are every month or so. They are like any other humans, and have good and bad people amongst them.RuralMan08 wrote:Its the somalis who use the Deen for their excuses in loving arabs and desiring to be their servants. I am just showing them that they cannot use this excuse anymore as the Deen is for humankind and doesnt represent Arabs in anyway, just like the Jews dont rerpresent Jesus (as)Firefly wrote:Don't use the Qur'an to score cheap points.
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Huuno, Arab waa muslim hence we must take them to account when they practice horrible wrongdoing. Other humans who are already lost and not Muslim (destined to Hell) can be excused on the grounds that they do not know Allah.Firefly wrote:
I don't know why Somalis are so fixated with Arabs. There's a topic on how horrible Arabs are every month or so. They are like any other humans, and have good and bad people amongst them.
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Not all Arabs are Muslims. All Muslims believe in Allah swt and know that He exists but we all still sin and do things we shouldn't, it just shows our humanity. Arabs are no different. Do you have any interaction with Arabs? Do you have Arab friends?RuralMan08 wrote:Huuno, Arab waa muslim hence we must take them to account when they practice horrible wrongdoing. Other humans who are already lost and not Muslim (destined to Hell) can be excused on the grounds that they do not know Allah.Firefly wrote:
I don't know why Somalis are so fixated with Arabs. There's a topic on how horrible Arabs are every month or so. They are like any other humans, and have good and bad people amongst them.
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Re: The Qur'an says Arabs are the WORST of creation
RuralMan08 wrote:"The Arabs are strongest in disbelief and hypocrisy and are more likely to not know the limits of what (laws) Allah has revealed to His Messenger. And Allah is Knowing and Wise. And among the Arabs are some who consider what they spend as a loss and await for you turns of misfortune. Upon them will be a misfortune of evil. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing." (Surah 9 verses 97-98).
So whoever was thinking of saving the Arabs equals saving Islam think again loool
You found the aayah, could you not trouble yourself with finding the tafseer for it?

Arabs are not the same as Aaraabs. In the ayaah here, the Arabs being talked about are your kind, adeer. Are you not a proud Somali camel herder or were you born in a hospital?

Arabs = Arab race/nation
Aaraab = Nomads/Bedouins/geel jires.
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Re: The Qur'an says Arabs are the WORST of creation
﴿٩٦﴾ الْأَعْرَابُ أَشَدُّ كُفْرًا وَنِفَاقًا وَأَجْدَرُ أَلَّا يَعْلَمُوا حُدُودَ مَا أَنزَلَ اللَّـهُ عَلَىٰ رَسُولِهِ ۗ وَاللَّـهُ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ ﴿٩٧
The bedouins are stronger in disbelief and hypocrisy and more likely not to know the limits of what [laws] Allah has revealed to His Messenger. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.
There's something wrong with your tafseer. Al-acraab means the bediouns and not arabs.
PS: i just realised that our translations are exactly the same except for the 'Arabs part' and i went through every english translation and none of them used 'Arabs are...' So which translation did you use?
The bedouins are stronger in disbelief and hypocrisy and more likely not to know the limits of what [laws] Allah has revealed to His Messenger. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.
There's something wrong with your tafseer. Al-acraab means the bediouns and not arabs.
PS: i just realised that our translations are exactly the same except for the 'Arabs part' and i went through every english translation and none of them used 'Arabs are...' So which translation did you use?
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Re: The Qur'an says Arabs are the WORST of creation
Ruralman I thought you loved Zaidi Arabs maxaa dhacay? 

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Re: The Qur'an says Arabs are the WORST of creation
Why would you purposefully misquote the Quran to suit your views like that? 
"...(97) And of the wandering Arabs there is he who taketh that which he expendeth (for the cause of Allah) as a loss, and awaiteth (evil) turns of fortune for you (that he may be rid of it). The evil turn of fortune will be theirs. Allah is Hearer, Knower. (98) And of the wandering Arabs there is he who believeth in Allah and the Last Day, and taketh that which he expendeth and also the prayers of the messenger as acceptable offerings in the sight of Allah. Lo! verily it is an acceptable offering for them. Allah will bring them into His mercy. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (99) And the first to lead the way, of the Muhajirin and the Ansar, and those who followed them in goodness - Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him, and He hath made ready for them Gardens underneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide for ever. That is the supreme triumph.."
It says wandering Arabs which can be Bedoins (which is what it says in my Quran), not all of them it says that there are some, and from what I can tell it’s in reference to giving charity.
http://www.quranexplorer.com/Quran/Default.aspx

"...(97) And of the wandering Arabs there is he who taketh that which he expendeth (for the cause of Allah) as a loss, and awaiteth (evil) turns of fortune for you (that he may be rid of it). The evil turn of fortune will be theirs. Allah is Hearer, Knower. (98) And of the wandering Arabs there is he who believeth in Allah and the Last Day, and taketh that which he expendeth and also the prayers of the messenger as acceptable offerings in the sight of Allah. Lo! verily it is an acceptable offering for them. Allah will bring them into His mercy. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (99) And the first to lead the way, of the Muhajirin and the Ansar, and those who followed them in goodness - Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him, and He hath made ready for them Gardens underneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide for ever. That is the supreme triumph.."
It says wandering Arabs which can be Bedoins (which is what it says in my Quran), not all of them it says that there are some, and from what I can tell it’s in reference to giving charity.
http://www.quranexplorer.com/Quran/Default.aspx
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I adviced you a long time ago to stop speaking about such deen issues like you're talking about football or tribalism. It's shame a you and djibsomali are still at it. If you don't like Arabs, no need to misquote the Quran. The Quran is referring to desert Arabs of a particular period in time and people who commited certain actions of hypocrisy, and not the way you are misquoting it.
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Re: The Qur'an says Arabs are the WORST of creation
You do realize that the prophet Muhammad pbuh and his purified ahlulbayt were arabs, right? 

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The origin of the word "arab" is from acraab so dont try to seperate the verses. Allah was talking about the Arab bedouins. I know thatPaddington Bear wrote:
Arabs = Arab race/nation
Aaraab = Nomads/Bedouins/geel jires.
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Zaidis are pure and innocent from these evils. It is the majority of Arabs which are bad, however there are amongst them a group whom Allah has guided like those who follow the Zaydi madhab in which I take great pleasure in knowing them.Enlightened~Sista wrote:Ruralman I thought you loved Zaidi Arabs maxaa dhacay?
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