Union But why?

[Goljano Lion]

Union
My understanding of you is that,and you said so many times, you have no problem with gay marriage and you don’t condone but why do you have a problem with Somaliland being a separate country from Somalia?

[Goljano Lion]

You know most of Somalis are Muslims and they consider gay marriage a sin

[union]

Goljano I oppose Somaliland independence because an armed rebel group will not dictate to Somalia on its own terms while holding hostage illegally lands that still pledge loyalty to the blue banner. If your clan wishes to gain independence (and undoubtedly Somaliland is a purely iddor creation) then you will have to crawl to Mogadishu and seek the consent and blessing of the representatives of Somalia on our terms. Then perhaps we’d be willing to hear your case for independence and maybe someday in the future you’re triangular republic can hope to become a glorified pitstop like Djiobuti.

[Awe]

Union
My understanding of you is that,and you said so many times, you have no problem with gay marriage and you don’t condone but why do you have a problem with Somaliland being a separate country from Somalia?

WTF

Are you half white or something? Did you go to dugsi as a child? Have you shared your views with your family? if so, how did it go bal noo sheeg.

[Skippa]

Non vieux loup...luqunta toosi

[Goljano Lion]

Goljano I oppose Somaliland independence because an armed rebel group will not dictate to Somalia on its own terms while holding hostage illegally lands that still pledge loyalty to the blue banner. If your clan wishes to gain independence (and undoubtedly Somaliland is a purely iddor creation) then you will have to crawl to Mogadishu and seek the consent and blessing of the representatives of Somalia on our terms. Then perhaps we’d be willing to hear your case for independence and maybe someday in the future you’re triangular republic can hope to become a glorified pitstop like Djiobuti.

A Greek philosopher once noted that an effective medium of communication and verbal skills are the fundamental traits that set aside humans from other beast when it comes to settling their differences over a given issue;
i dont wanna talk about the reasons Somaliland left the union, but let me tell you a very simple case, the case of South Sudan has proved that a new African states can come into existence despite the fact that the African Union has tried to maintain the former colonial borders,
Said that, I have nothing against your somaliweyn believes or Somaliland ma gu karto comments, however, the least you could do is not to insult our intelligence
I am a die hard Somalilander supporter, however, as long as you respect other somalilander`s opinions, I will respect your right to believe somaliweyn dreams and can do whatever you want to do with your somaliweyn dreams but cut the name calling and insults

[union]

Goljano I oppose Somaliland independence because an armed rebel group will not dictate to Somalia on its own terms while holding hostage illegally lands that still pledge loyalty to the blue banner. If your clan wishes to gain independence (and undoubtedly Somaliland is a purely iddor creation) then you will have to crawl to Mogadishu and seek the consent and blessing of the representatives of Somalia on our terms. Then perhaps we’d be willing to hear your case for independence and maybe someday in the future you’re triangular republic can hope to become a glorified pitstop like Djiobuti.

A Greek philosopher once noted that an effective medium of communication and verbal skills are the fundamental traits that set aside humans from other beast when it comes to settling their differences over a given issue;
i dont wanna talk about the reasons Somaliland left the union, but let me tell you a very simple case, the case of South Sudan has proved that a new African states can come into existence despite the fact that the African Union has tried to maintain the former colonial borders,
Said that, I have nothing against your somaliweyn believes or Somaliland ma gu karto comments, however, the least you could do is not to insult our intelligence
I am a die hard Somalilander supporter, however, as long as you respect other somalilander`s opinions, I will respect your right to believe somaliweyn dreams and can do whatever you want to do with your somaliweyn dreams but cut the name calling and insults

The people of North and South Sudan have irreconcilable differences. The North is Arab and Muslim while the South is populated by different African racial groups who are largely Christian and Animist. Somalia and the self declared “Somaliland” may have political differences, but that hardly warrants permanent separation considering the ethnic, linguistic, and religious kinship the two regions share. Other than your claim that you were mistreated by the past regime, what possible reason do you have for separating? Do you not know that the old regime is gone and that the Somalis of today are ready to hear your concerns and allow you to return to the table of nationhood? And if you do not wish to discuss the merits (or lack thereof) of yourself declared independence, perhaps you will appreciate the fact that we don’t see much reason in recognizing a hostile entity which jails TFG officials while welcoming foreigners, hands over Somalis to the Ethiopian regime on a regular basis, and is in blatant violation of the territorial integrity of our nation by illegally claiming the regions of SSC when the residents of those regions have made it plentifully clear that they wish to have nothing to do with you. I oppose Somaliland on those grounds. For being an illogical creation, for being an unnecessary and artificial division, for being hostile to Somalia, and for being utterly hypercritical.

[Goljano Lion]

These Somaliweyn supporter always come up with the same arguments, bala bla we are the same people, sharing same the culture, religion and ethnicity, so what, don’t you know, we have the same thing with Djibouti and the Somalis who reside in Ethiopia
Somaliland did unite with Somalia in 1960 of our own will and we seceded from the union in 1991 compri
What is the point of denying this simple fact when it is the truth that Somaliland will never come back to that union
These konfurian politicians should be honest with their people and think about their future generations, It serves no purpose to deny the facts on the ground which is, what can you do to Somaliland beside Somaliland ma gu karto

[union]

These Somaliweyn supporter always come up with the same arguments, bala bla we are the same people, sharing same the culture, religion and ethnicity, so what, don’t you know, we have the same thing with Djibouti and the Somalis who reside in Ethiopia
Somaliland did unite with Somalia in 1960 of our own will and we seceded from the union in 1991 compri
What is the point of denying this simple fact when it is the truth that Somaliland will never come back to that union
These konfurian politicians should be honest with their people and think about their future generations, It serves no purpose to deny the facts on the ground which is, what can you do to Somaliland beside Somaliland ma gu karto

And if you do not wish to discuss the merits (or lack thereof) of yourself declared independence, perhaps you will appreciate the fact that we don’t see much reason in recognizing a hostile entity which threatens to jail TFG officials while welcoming foreigners, hands over Somalis to the Ethiopian regime on a regular basis, and is in blatant violation of the territorial integrity of our nation by illegally claiming the regions of SSC when the residents of those regions have made it plentifully clear that they wish to have nothing to do with you. I oppose Somaliland on those grounds. For being an illogical creation, for being an unnecessary and artificial division, for being a tool of the enemy, for being hostile to Somalia, and for being utterly hypercritical.

We won't recognize an enemy nation, kappish.

[Goljano Lion]

These Somaliweyn supporter always come up with the same arguments, bala bla we are the same people, sharing same the culture, religion and ethnicity, so what, don’t you know, we have the same thing with Djibouti and the Somalis who reside in Ethiopia
Somaliland did unite with Somalia in 1960 of our own will and we seceded from the union in 1991 compri
What is the point of denying this simple fact when it is the truth that Somaliland will never come back to that union
These konfurian politicians should be honest with their people and think about their future generations, It serves no purpose to deny the facts on the ground which is, what can you do to Somaliland beside Somaliland ma gu karto

And if you do not wish to discuss the merits (or lack thereof) of yourself declared independence, perhaps you will appreciate the fact that we don’t see much reason in recognizing a hostile entity which threatens to jail TFG officials while welcoming foreigners, hands over Somalis to the Ethiopian regime on a regular basis, and is in blatant violation of the territorial integrity of our nation by illegally claiming the regions of SSC when the residents of those regions have made it plentifully clear that they wish to have nothing to do with you. I oppose Somaliland on those grounds. For being an illogical creation, for being an unnecessary and artificial division, for being a tool of the enemy, for being hostile to Somalia, and for being utterly hypercritical.

We won't recognize an enemy nation, kappish.

i thought you were smarter than that. As its right now in Somalia, there is no responsible government to negotiate with Somaliland, dude the so called TFG are doomed to be irresponsible and we are not able to negotiate with doomed powerless government, so, nothing stops Somaliland from being responsible for its future.

[union]

You say that you don't need the recognition of the TFG because they are "doomed powerless government" but yet you care so much about union's personal opinions in regards to somaliland's succession that you opened this entire thread? You know if Somaliland's government had any brains it would realize that Sharif Sakin, Mahiga, and the curropt officals that currently dominate TFG are the only ones who would ever even entertain the idea of giving you independence.Too bad for you, everyone in Madaxtooyada Hargesia is to strung out on khat and qamri to be able to formulate a logical plan for gaining Ictiraaf.

[Goljano Lion]

You say that you don't need the recognition of the TFG because they are "doomed powerless government" but yet you care so much about union's personal opinions in regards to somaliland's succession that you opened this entire thread? You know if Somaliland's government had any brains it would realize that Sharif Sakin, Mahiga, and the curropt officals that currently dominate TFG are the only ones who would ever even entertain the idea of giving you independence.Too bad for you, everyone in Madaxtooyada Hargesia is to strung out on khat and qamri to be able to formulate a logical plan for gaining Ictiraaf.

you see kido, again you get so emotional,as i told you before, you have the right to your opinions without name calling and i will respect that, so nigga don't derail the topic.
the reason i opened the topic is that you have personal obsessions with anything that has to do Somaliland, secondly, Sheikh sharif, Mahiga and Co should be worried pacifying Konfurian territories from Al-shabaab, or maybe they should try to negotiate with Amir Godane

[union]

Ok so you are saying that somaliland doesn't want to deal with TFG. Then Somaliland will be in the same conundrum for the next twenty years.

[Goljano Lion]

Ok so you are saying that somaliland doesn't want to deal with TFG. Then Somaliland will be in the same conundrum for the next twenty years.

in this status quo, we are doing much better than TFG , so i don't mind that too, but its also a learning democracy process for Somalilnders too

[union]

In this status quo somaliland is only marginally better off than the rest of the country.