Don't we have more important things to talk about?
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Don't we have more important things to talk about?
You do realize they're important enough to have the international community to mediate these talksDon't we have more important things to talk about?
There are so many fake stories repeated in the web that some wants us to believe as if they are facts. Truth is there has never been a country called Somaliland in the 1960. It used to be called British Somaliland Protectorate, and when the British empire left, there was no constitution created for that protectorate. There was no even a name defined for the Somali section after the British departed. As a matter fact, there was no country called Somaliland that was accepted into the AU nor UN. The whole reason why the union was enacted was, because there was a fear that the Ethiopian Emperor Haile Selassie would attack and conquer it. The Somalis in the North did not want to end up like the reserve region, Ogaden, that was handed over to Ethiopia by the British government. The Sudanese Ambassador in Addis Abeba has told Somali delegates who were in Adis Abeba at the time that you will come under attack had you not prepare yourself for it.
Due to this fear of Ethiopian attack and the lack of armament, the Somalis in the North were hurrying up to join their brethren in the South. There was no even discussions of power-sharing, or any joint relationships that two parties sign when they are getting into agreements. The idea that some are repeating here that there were two Somali countries that got into agreements in the 1960s is an absolute lie. The declaration of the Somali Republic on July 1, 1960 was the starting point. Any prior borders defined by the British government is pointless since the independent Somali Republic have clear borders that is recognized by all international organizations, and the declaration its independence had no strings attached to it.
I realize that, the only problem is this article was never ratified. How sweet is that? The fact that no single act of union was ratified is the reason the officers who did the coup de tat in 1961 were found, wait for it: NOT GUILTY OF TREASON. The reason, they never pledged allegiance to the Somali Republic.^Bring the URL, and not some distorted documents written by some secessionist supporters! We will sure examine
Fyi, Article 4 of the Somali constitution state, "the territorial integrity of Somali Republic is sacred."
These talks are very important. In fact finding the solution to the Somaliland & Somalia impasse will be the most significant event in the horn of africa this decade.
I guess you will send your brother and son to go do the fighting right?i'll say this, the only reason isaaq clan could even entertain the idea of secession is because there was no body to keep it in check, somali state has collapsed. but within a few years when the somali government revitalises and gets its finances in order, all hell will break loose. south somalia will be equipped with state of the art equipment and well experienced soldiers not to mention the full support of the international community, and with the help of puntland will first conquer the contested regions (possibly through local militias). this will shatter what ever legitimacy somaliland has left. i've always seen this scenario as inevitable.
The conferences will be held peacefully over the years to come and will take much time and effort away from the needed progress and development that otherwise would have gone to improving the lives of the average somalis back home... Outcome is already desided.in connection with the Somalis: ‘He who finds himself in the mouth of the lion will appeal for help even to the tiger.’
Cirwaaq how important is the international communities involvment so that there is progress in these talks?
There are only two inevitable outcomes with a 3rd i would class as improbable.
1. Somalia grants Somaliland de jure recognitions
2. Somalia refuses to even discuss recognition and talks stall leading to a default supporting Somaliland's case.
3. One of the States declares war as a result of the Stalemate in the talks(improbable) but ultimately the international community would then have to favour one of the options.
Somalia Vs Somaliland
I believe Somalia's track record places it in a weaker position to bargain as Somaliland could Reject Union-request, cause the meeting to stall and walk away and continue doing as it has done for the past 21 years. Somalia's existance does not effect Somaliland at all however, Somaliland's existance totally undermines Somalia's government simply because they will continue to claim to represent somaliland as anything else is going to be percieved as Recognition.
Some people can see the checkmate steps ahead others wish to modify the rules governing the motion of the players on the board.
- Recognition can lead to possible future Union of all Somali regions.
- Rejection of Somaliland will assure there is never a Union till the end of times.
The talks are scheduled to take place on June 21st. The TFG has already named ministers. The invovlment of Puntland has been nixed. For all intent and purposes, Somaliland and Somalia are meeting as Somalia and Somaliland discussing their future relations. The writing is on the wall.The president/PM or their cabinet should not be involved in the talks i say send some officials from Puntland or Galmudug for this task. also no talks can start before defining SL self-claimed borders first.
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