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Are Somali passports viable yet?

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Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby grandpakhalif » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:04 pm

Let's say I get a Somalia passport fresh from the TFG. Can one travel with it in a legitimate manner?

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Re: Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby KimJongIllest » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:08 pm

Most European countries do not consider biometric passports issued by Somalia to be valid travel documents.


Only Switzerland and Austria recognise the Somali passports as valid documents for the establishment of identity.


Finland’s Minister of Migration and European Affairs Astrid Thors (Swed. People’s Party) has proposed that Finland recognise the passports. Finland’s Ministry of the Interior is now proposing that the Somali biometric passport be accepted as such as a valid document for travel to Finland, and as a basis for establishing identity when processing applications for residence permits.


Sweden’s immigration service does not consider the passports to be valid because Somalia lacks a reliable authority to issue the documents. However, although a Somali passport is not accepted as a travellers only document, Swedish officials can use biometric passports as backup for other papers.


http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Few+co ... 5259796309

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Re: Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby KimJongIllest » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:11 pm

Somali passport holders furthermore need a special permit to be exempted from holding a valid passport,
as Somali passports are not accepted by German authorities.


http://www.nairobi.diplo.de/contentblob ... rriage.pdf

A statement from the Government of Canada explaining why Canada will not accept the Somali passport as a valid travel document states that, since 1991, Somalia has been functioning with virtually no government, and that satellite "Somali embassies" with no oversight from a central government have sold blank passport stock to finance their operations


http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/country,, ... 91e,0.html

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Re: Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby grandpakhalif » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:11 pm

This is quite disappointing, basically someone who grew up in Somalia and requests their god given right to travel and is issued a Somali passport has no right to travel except in shitty Finland?

Wallahi we have failed our people.

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Re: Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby KimJongIllest » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:14 pm

Many countries don't accept the passport because the Government doesnt issue them but they are issued at the market. It's a security risk. This will change though. We will have a new government in days that will be legitimate and will tackle this problem

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Re: Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby grandpakhalif » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:16 pm

KimJongIllest wrote:Many countries don't accept the passport because the Government doesnt issue them but they are issued at the market. It's a security risk. This will change though. We will have a new government in days that will be legitimate and will tackle this problem


I don't blame these governments, Al shabab can easily acquire them and export attacks abroad. But "security risk" shouldn't de-legitimize the entire Somali nation's right to travel.

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Re: Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby greenday » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:19 pm

Grandpa there are new passports, i dont know how many countries take it but i know inaa Dubai ku tagi kartid. Are you thinking of getting one?

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Re: Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby grandpakhalif » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:23 pm

greenday wrote:Grandpa there are new passports, i dont know how many countries take it but i know inaa Dubai ku tagi kartid. Are you thinking of getting one?

Yeah I am inshallah, I am even thinking of revoking my Canadian one and obtaining somali one.

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Re: Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby KimJongIllest » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:24 pm

grandpakhalif wrote:
greenday wrote:Grandpa there are new passports, i dont know how many countries take it but i know inaa Dubai ku tagi kartid. Are you thinking of getting one?

Yeah I am inshallah, I am even thinking of revoking my Canadian one and obtaining somali one.


Please don't do that.

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Re: Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby greenday » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:25 pm

Grandpa, dont the Canadians do dual citizenship? get that because if you have a Somali passport in Canada life wont be easy.

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Re: Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby grandpakhalif » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:27 pm

greenday wrote:Grandpa, dont the Canadians do dual citizenship? get that because if you have a Somali passport in Canada life wont be easy.

Who says I will stay in Canada, I will probaby be living in Somalia or Kenya when I revoke it.


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Re: Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby DANGIRL » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:30 pm

grandpakhalif wrote:
greenday wrote:Grandpa there are new passports, i dont know how many countries take it but i know inaa Dubai ku tagi kartid. Are you thinking of getting one?

Yeah I am inshallah, I am even thinking of revoking my Canadian one and obtaining somali one.




Two passports are better than one.

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Re: Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby Alphanumeric » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:37 pm

I wonder if Canada will allow dual citizenship with Somalia.

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Re: Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby The-Screw » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:48 pm

F*ck that sh!t. I'm fine with my navy blue passport with eagle.

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Re: Are Somali passports viable yet?

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:54 pm

Grandpa,

It costs about $90 last year and you can get the new electronic passport in about 1 day in Xamar and 4 days in Galkacyo/Garowe/Bosaaso. You can travel anywhere if you have a visa. Visa free travel to Djibouti which only harasses Somalis with foreign passports but leaves Somalis with Somali passports alone.

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You will save a bundle in exit and visa fees if you travel often to and from Somalia. If you are serious and are in Xamar, let me know and I can get my friend to expedite it for you in less than 1 day.


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