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Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

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How many of you believe the holocaust took place with extermination and gassing and all.

1- Yes
12
44%
2-No
15
56%
 
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Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby X.Playa » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:47 pm

Lets see how many somalis believe it or not. I personally don't , i have done my share of research and i have read enough material on the subject and its a fiction.

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Re: Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby ManD333q » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:20 pm

It's hard not to believe in it since that's the only thing they will teach in history class in school. But I have hard time believing that 6million jews died in the hands of Nazis. I haven't done any research so can't say wether it's fake or not, but I do think it's exaggerated by jews to gain sympathy. And they did gain a lot Phalestine being one of them!

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Re: Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby X.Playa » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:57 pm

The number of 6 million is just a number the love to use , but one thing the holocaust industery can never challenege is to produce evidence , like they claim there was gassing chambers where Zaylcon-B was used to gass people to death , no traces of that gass has ever been proven on many tests done in all concentration camps. Another problem facing the holocaust myth is the logistics of killing 6 million people , you have to kill and then get rid of the corpses, they claim around 10,000 people were killed daily and cremated of course with no evidenc, the cremation facilities at all the "death camps" could only process 2 /3 per day, just average ceremorty designed for natural death.

There are huge volume of evidence and forensic tests that debunks the holocaust myth , volumes and volumes of evidence , those Jew who push this profitable myth have produced lots of Jewish "eye witness" who claim they have seen people been gassed , but in reality most of them never seen these things, ts all hersay. their biggest probaganda star is Ann Frank , but the German saved her entire family and even took her from the camp to a hospital, why would the German take a person that was suppose to be exterminated into a hospital to save her and her family.

Then comes the Numberg trials , when you take the myth out of it (hollywood version) the Germans were excuted not because of mass exterminations ,no because of Waging an Agressive War wich is recognized as crime against humanity, one can use the same case against Bush, Obama and almost 21 American presidents and top millitary men.

In simple words how 6 million were killed, when there was no gass, no chambers, etc in the camps, in fact the camps had swimming pools , libarary, hospital , theater and music room and it was visited every 6 month by the Red Cross and there was no evidence of any killings.

Probably most somalis with the excpetion of Union are not buying this myth.

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Re: Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby zulaika » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:09 pm

u seem to be good at debunking "facts", can you please research 911?

please and thank you!

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Re: Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby TeAmo » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:12 pm

I think it did happen but I think it was also hugely exaggerated and Allah knows best.

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Re: Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby Thuganomics » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:45 pm

I reckoned it happened,but the numbers quoted are problamatic.The mass industrialized killing only realy started in 1943 until 1945.So how many a day would you have to wipe out to get the 6 million figure

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Re: Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby SultanOrder » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:54 pm

Thug about 8300 people a day needs to be killed in a two year span to reach 6million.

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Re: Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby ElfRuler » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:59 pm

Doesn't really matter what we think anymore. They have the financial, political, and legal means to argue for the Holocaust.

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Re: Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby Thuganomics » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:02 pm

Thug about 8300 people a day needs to be killed in a two year span to reach 6million.
Sounds doable doesn't it,but that would mean around the clock with vast ovens in place
incineration, needs about 1800 F-2100 F ( 950-1100C ) over 1-2 hours When you factor with a 12 hour working day How may then

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Re: Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby AgentOfChaos » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:11 pm

:wtf:

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Re: Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby SultanOrder » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:29 pm

Thug about 8300 people a day needs to be killed in a two year span to reach 6million.
Sounds doable doesn't it,but that would mean around the clock with vast ovens in place
incineration, needs about 1800 F-2100 F ( 950-1100C ) over 1-2 hours When you factor with a 12 hour working day How may then
with an average of 1.5 hrs per body you could do about 8 bodies per oven or the space one body takes, that would mean you need ovens that can handle 1030 bodies. The effort it takes to load up 1030 bodies could be 50-100 men, and since most ovens were 1 person, you need about 1000 ovens. Now you can't keep that many ovens in one place nor such a large population, you have to spread it out and that means the amount of men is a lot more. That is a lot of work.

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Re: Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby Thuganomics » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:25 pm

Thug about 8300 people a day needs to be killed in a two year span to reach 6million.
Sounds doable doesn't it,but that would mean around the clock with vast ovens in place
incineration, needs about 1800 F-2100 F ( 950-1100C ) over 1-2 hours When you factor with a 12 hour working day How may then
with an average of 1.5 hrs per body you could do about 8 bodies per oven or the space one body takes, that would mean you need ovens that can handle 1030 bodies. The effort it takes to load up 1030 bodies could be 50-100 men, and since most ovens were 1 person, you need about 1000 ovens. Now you can't keep that many ovens in one place nor such a large population, you have to spread it out and that means the amount of men is a lot more. That is a lot of work.

So much effort when you think you have wars going on in 3 fronts don't you thin PO
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Re: Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby SultanOrder » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:55 pm

:lol: It aint a crime, it'll just cost your secular friends, career, and question your intelligence. :lol:

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Re: Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby DayaxJeclee » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:57 pm

Estimated 6 million Jews dying? Some died starvation and well off families escape with fake papers.
As Winston Churchill once said history is written by the victor.

What is Jewish Anyway?

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Re: Is the Holocaust a fact or a fiction and why ?

Postby X.Playa » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:43 am

There was no oven/gass chambers , so why do you people assume there was , its proven that there was no gass chambers , no chemical residue , the chambers which used to de-lice cloths were basic room whith doors and windows and basic vantilations that can't be used to kill 10k human per day.

One good example is the Autchwitiz so called chamber , it was beside the local SSS canteen where they ate food and their hospital , now Zayaklon-B is a dangerous chemical that needs secpial buildings , far away from any buildings where people live, once you killed and gass humans , you have to let the gass out so workers can go in anc clear the buddies , and there the gass chamber is built beside a resurant for the SSS , so it shows you how the logistics and the nature of the camps ( no gass chambers, no huge cremtoriums) makes it impossible that their was exterminations in those camps.

Now most people have 1 image of the holocaust nad that is the starved bony bodies and 10's of deads been buried by bulldozers, those images were not of gassed people appearntly they are just used in those hollocaust probaganda films, these dead corpses and starving humans , are of those who died of typhoids, and those starved as result of the last year when Germans starved and was under seige.

Till now nobody can produce an order or goverment paper of the "finall solution" the only evidence the Jewish lobby has and offers are eye witness tesimonies that falters under close examinations, the withness were asked how were the budies were disposed off after the gassing and they claim they were pulled out by voluntieers ( which is impossible the voluntieers themselvs will die of the gass residue) and then they claim massiv pits were dag out and the corpses were burned using kersone , which again physically is impossible , human flesh is full of water and it doesn't burn on open outside pits where 10,0000 are burned at one time. Then finer deatils makes it even more impossible like the amount of fule alloted to eatch concentartion camp for heating and such and there is a record for these supplies , again the fule needed to burin humans using coal is impossible.

The following 2 videos part 1 and part are done by a Jewish student in the 1980's David Cole who is in hiding since the 1980's
[youtube]MsT0o9pqu28&feature=related[/youtube]
[youtube]DLs1c91aFwY&feature=relmfu[/youtube]

This video is a comperhensive study of the logistics of the camps a deatiled debuking of the myth
[youtube]bzBpcuE8mpc&feature=related[/youtube]


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