HIV = AIDS: Fraud or Fiction?

[KingBlack]

HIV is real and be carefull you horny bastards keep your vijayvijays and your ali fanaxs away from illegal Niiko!! and do not use drugs... and you skinny dudes if you see A hot vijayvijay whit big melons remember pls Use AL CONDOMIA and always remember if you dont get vijayvijay you can use and do niiko whit watermelons cuz is save and halaal too

[original dervish]

Basra

You need to remove your Eurocentric spectacles and examine the science.
Yes I know that it can be difficult when one has been raised to believe in the infallibility of Western medicine.
However, if you apply elementary scientific methodology to the AIDS "virus", you may be in for a surprise.

Multiple strains of Influenza viruses have been isolated, HIV virus has never been isolated.
Isolation is the only direct and unambiguous evidence of a virus.

[Basra-]

Original@loool

OK. I will try my best to remove my " Eurocentric spectacles. " (speaking of spectacles, don't u think its time u replace yours with eye contacts?) loool


Well, If by your own definition- the act of isolation is---identifying various--strains, then my dear- I wish to inform u that there are multiple strains of HIV that have been identified, just Google strains of hiv and u will find your answers. In fact, just visit a US court, Hiv prosecution is an epidemic. It is a crime to infect someone with hiv if u know your stats. Medical fields and Law intertwine in proving cases where a source infection is identified by the type of strain it 'originates' from. But nevertheless, A virus is a virus-- all virus affect human the same way. Our body reacts to all various with similar symptoms', therefore I see NO reason to doubt HIV is a virus, just as the common flu is a virus as well. (except, HIV virus--is lethal and will kill ya eventually lol. Prayers for alpha)

Original, I think u r also alpha-- and your Nomad centric spectacles are misguiding u to the grave. I say, instead of dying of a migraine by using traditional jaat vegetables as medicine, go seek medical help that have been 'isolated' to help ya. After all, it is the same "Eurocentric" who invented the internet in which you and I have the honor and pleasure to exchange views today. Allaahu Akbaar.

[original dervish]

Basra

I`m mystified as to why you would associate me with other snetters, anyhow that's neither here nor there.

I know its difficult to question ones unshakable beliefs, especially so those imbued with a spurious sense of superiority.
Perhaps you might find it beneficial to go beyond a cursory glance at Google, and read the scientific literature.

Your right on one score however, the exchanges have been pleasant.

[Basra-]

Original

I have ONE simple question for you to answer. Are you dhulbahante?

[original dervish]

What that has to do with our discussion, only you know.

I don`t define myself in such a primitive manner.
First and foremost I am a Muslim.

I hope the response is helpful

[Basra-]

[original dervish]

maybe we can continue another time.
goodnight

[SimplySerene]

The thing with autism is that it is a chronic developmental disorder, and rarely if ever diagnosed in infancy (motor sensory stage). Most doctors look for its symptoms in the toddler years and mostly in boys, long after children have established cognitive skills beyond the motor sensory. Changes in children like you have mentioned can happen due to many things, but the biggest problem with this disorder is misinformation and misdiagnosis. It doesn't affect walking or many of the other motor based functions. Social interactions, communication, lack of interest in parental attention & affection, unexplainable interest in repetitive actions, etc are usually its symptoms. Most experts have agreed that it is a genetic based disorder and occurs sometime during the gestation period. Because of its chronic nature & the fact that MRI specs of autistic children/adults have shown just how it affects the brain, it's not possible to be caused by anything in the environment. MMR vaccines have trace amounts of thimerosal which is a mercury-containing organic substance and this was the supposed link to autism according to Dr. Andrew Wakefield (the discredited doctor who was sanctioned for falsifying his research). But, even with exposure to high levels of mercury or even lead, it never causes autism. Maybe severe brain damage, but nothing like the autism spectrum. It's still unknown what causes it. Intermarriages, old age in both fathers & mothers, etc have all been linked to be factors in it, but nothing conclusive yet.

I think there are many cases where the autism was triggered by something environmental. There was an instance that I saw a baby/toddler in the process of learning to walk... they were using furniture, like a sofa & foot tool or the wall to help them stand....then the baby/toddler stopped all efforts for several months. The baby/toddler had eye contact then the eye contact was lost . The baby babbling had stopped and then a long delay in speech, then speech very limited . There was a delay in speech, lost eye contact, delay in walking, other symptoms etc Years later diagnosed with Austim. I have seen too many stories from parents and I have seen a case ...where the child was fine and then was not . I think environment is a factor


I found this video a while back and posted it on the forum. I found it interesting.

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=293152

http://www.cbc.ca/natureofthings/episod ... nigma.html#

[Anarchist]

@SimplySerene - Anything is possible, autism is still pretty much a mystery. But, nothing environmental after delivery has yet to be linked to it. I read a study about how Norway meticulously records health history of its citizens, and specially vaccines from birth through adulthood. Scientists poured over inoculation data stretching as far back as 30+ years for thousands of people, mostly men & boys, looking for any patterns indicative of the suggested link between vaccines & autism. They could find nothing. No other country on earth does a better job of recording such data & even they could not establish any link between environmental elements and the disorder. All I can say is maybe the spectrum is gradual? Must be, it probably starts in early toddler years, but doesn't get diagnosed until much later.

[Basra-]

WHO the FK cares about autisms when there is AIDS/HIV to be discussed. They are NOT even in the remote league of importance. Autism my futo!

[gurey25]

what i find more interesting is the millions of people around the world that are immune.
they cannot get infected at all.

you can inject them with a syringe full of hiv blood and 3 months later they will still be clean.

and the even larger population of people that will never get sick from aids, but are carriers.
there are millions of healthy africans that do not use any drugs, and live a healthy life..

and the strange case of that 60 year old khaniis that suddenly found himself cured.

this is where research should be directed.

[InvisibleHand]

10% of Europeans are supposedly resistant to HIV.

[gurey25]

i remember a BBC documentary about a group of zimbabwean. prostitutes that had hiv.
1 of them even had 3 different strains, for 12 years and she has never had a cold or flu or got sick in her life.

[Basra-]

Rubbish. No one is immune to the disease. This is another idiotic myth and denial wish told around by ignorant people like u gurey. There are people whose immune system is strong-- and can withstand the wars of the virus, but eventually--the results is the same. Dead. I heard European whose ancestors suffered from the black plague back in 1340s also will posses a stronger immune. A strong immune doesn't mean a resistant immune, it just means u can last the battle for a while compared to the unfortunate who perish quickly.