Taliban

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Even though I don't agree with their beliefs and methods, I have nothing but respect for these brave warriors who, with nothing but outdated AKs, RPGs, and their mountainous terrain managed to humble the entire military resources of the west.

I applaud you.

Meanwhile in xamar, alshabab use hit and run tactics - hit a hospital full of civilians and run away from AMISOM and Ethiopia.

[gurey25]

Taliban were successfull because they were lucky enough that US/Nato killed off allot of the idiots that were in their leadership
back in 2002.
The arab jihadis that they allied with called many names one of the al qaida was also seperated from them.

A new leadership rose from the bottom, they reconciled with the pushtoon tribes and they were able to restart the war and continue successfully today.

Does alshabaab represent all the somali clans? no, but the taliban have near total allegiance of pushtoon tribes and clans,
they represent 60% of Afghanistans population, so ofcourse the US/Nato decided to throw in the towel.

[Thuganomics]

[Khalid Ali]

The Americans could not defeat the Taliban NATO the Pashtuns are warriors they fought the Russians the same in the 80s, but the Afghan people need peace Americans should return to their country. The Qatar embassy made karzai the puppet go crazy. The US top officials are forced to negotiate to those they called terrorists after 12 years war no progress. When you are fighting in your own land you always have the support of the people and the land. But the Afghans showed that they can stand their ground

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Taliban were successfull because they were lucky enough that US/Nato killed off allot of the idiots that were in their leadership
back in 2002.
The arab jihadis that they allied with called many names one of the al qaida was also seperated from them.

A new leadership rose from the bottom, they reconciled with the pushtoon tribes and they were able to restart the war and continue successfully today.

Does alshabaab represent all the somali clans? no, but the taliban have near total allegiance of pushtoon tribes and clans,
they represent 60% of Afghanistans population, so ofcourse the US/Nato decided to throw in the towel.

Yes, but recognizing that you need grass-roots support from the local tribes and forging alliances is exactly what I'm talking about. They actually want to fight and free there country from the US and its stooges. They don't offer drug-induced diatribe about "kaafirs this, munaafiqs that" and then beat Usain Bolt's Olympic record when even the name "Ethiopia" is mentioned. And more to the point they have experienced fighters from multiple wars and tribal clashes among their ranks, instead of warlord in disguise and disillusioned kids.

[gurey25]

The US could not defeat the Taliban because those in charge were complete idiots.
They believed that they could ignore history.
Why dont they open a frikkin history book before they jump in and invade another country.

Defeating taliban is piss easy if you know the formula.

Afghans can be rented but not bought.
divide and conquer and spend allot of money buying the loyalty of several of the biggest factions,
and using 10% of the millitary force like a scalpel, taking care of strategic goals.

It took the British 100 years to learn this formula and it was working perfectly for them,
they had 4 wars with the afghans and invaded it 3 times to learn this lesson.
The US were either too proud or too stupid to open a history book.


Alxamdullah a country so powerfull and wealthy still produces allot of stupidity.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

What, in your opinion, would work for shaab fighters in undermining AMISOM and others. I can't imagine the same tactics working for somalis. A unified and trained army from all somali regions is the only thing I see working. Our country isn't suited for guerrilla activity, except the north.

[misterioso]

Even though I don't agree with their beliefs and methods, I have nothing but respect for these brave warriors who, with nothing but outdated AKs, RPGs, and their mountainous terrain managed to humble the entire military resources of the west.

I applaud you.

Meanwhile in xamar, alshabab use hit and run tactics - hit a hospital full of civilians and run away from AMISOM and Ethiopia.

I dunno why you demonize al-Shabaab, while applauding the Taliban. There's nothing al-Shabaab has done that the Taliban hasn't done. Do you want proof of the many attacks the Taliban conducted on hospitals full of civilians, resulting in civilian casualties? And do you want proof of Taliban hit and run tactics and running away from ISAF (AMISOM equivalent) and USA?

[gurey25]

What, in your opinion, would work for shaab fighters in undermining AMISOM and others. I can't imagine the same tactics working for somalis. A unified and trained army from all somali regions is the only thing I see working. Our country isn't suited for guerrilla activity, except the north.

if i was alshabaab, i would disband my fighters and merge into the community and turn into a clandestine movement based on dacwa and infiltration. After regaining the confidence of the people i will come back stronger, this time having infiltrated the new somali army and police.
this is exactly what taliban did.

look how much it is working for them.

[grandpakhalif]

victory is from Allah.

[misterioso]

victory is from Allah.

Victory for both Afghanistan/Somalia's oppositions, insha'Allah.

[Alchemist]

Somalis have no confidence with a movement run by other Somalis which is sad. There is no doubt that the Taliban have used more ruthless tactics against civilians they thought worked with the enemy. There was even a case where a little girl was shot in the face for leading a campaign for educating girls.

This all comes down to low self confidence of Somalis. The Taliban are winning this battle because the Afghans are willing to endure the hardships that comes with war and most importantly believe in their own unlike Somalis..

[misterioso]

Somalis have no confidence with a movement run by other Somalis which is sad. There is no doubt that the Taliban have used more ruthless tactics against civilians they thought worked with the enemy. There was even a case where a little girl was shot in the face for leading a campaign for educating girls.

This all comes down to low self confidence of Somalis. The Taliban are winning this battle because the Afghans are willing to endure the hardships that comes with war and most importantly believe in their own unlike Somalis..

Good analysis.

[Enlightened~Sista]

The guy who is famous here for giving us all grief for daring to not focus exclusively on Somali politics is here dedicating threads to the Taliban. Dude as you would often say in that aggressive tone that betrays your self hatred ' this conflict has nothing to do with you, you bilaadhiig, focus on your shitty countries!'

I've got question for both Hargaysaay and grandpa - why the fck do you care? You are cheerleading for two sides which are as bad as eachother in savagery. What has this conflict got to do with you? Please dont bring Islam into this because neither of the two sides behave like muslims. Right now, Mogadishu and Kismayo are both foreign colonies and yet you're moaning about syrians. Isla yaaba and get your priorities straight. SMH

This level of bilaadhignimo is unprecedented. Modern Somalis are the only people in the world who care about other people before their fellow somalis.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Iam not supporter of suicideattacks, but this attack really terrifies me:



Hopefully many crusaders were killed in that blast.