Why do Somalis think wadanism is a viable option for them?

[Insigne]

As though Somalia has some enviable history without Islam...or well, anything?

Islam civilized us. Without it we are nothing. We need it. It does not need us.

In return for this (outside of a minority of enslaved, zombie, taqleed following Sufi who are really remnants of the colonial system) we kept Islam pure and did not corrupt it. Even our civil war was not justified under reasons of deen. We destroyed ourself through qabiil, alhamdulilah, rather than dividing into sects and incurring Allah's wrath, like the accursed, diseased ahlul-bid'ah who infest the subcontinent.

Now, a few months of evident stability seem to have given Somalis the impression that we are capable of being semi-respectable humans without Islam.

This is a lie and it will be proven.

We were given Shabab as a reward for our sabr and loyalty to Islam despite the poverty, strife and humiliation we suffered. Despite the taghut of the Gulf turning their backs on us.

We were better than them.

Matched only by the lions of Pashtun and the wolves of Chechnya in our pride and observance, and even then unequaled in our observance and purity of religion. Even our Shaykh (Shahid, insha'allah) attested to it.

But we threw Sharia back in Allah's (SWT) face and we will be punished for it.

We are truly the worst of generations.

This is undoubtedly tantamount to betrayal in the eyes of Allah and I will not be associated with it. If there is no Sharia then Somalia means NOTHING to me and I will revoke my citizenship walahi.

We exist solely for your sake and to carry out your desires, ya Allah (SWT).

[The_Emperior5]

[Clown]

Sharia won't exist in Somalia anytime soon lol & you don't have citizenship anyway

[Insigne]

Why did you put lol in that sentence as though Allah's law is something to laugh about?

Are you Muslim?

And alxamdulilah. Walahi I don't want it. Refugees being raped and burned in Kenya and South Africa don't even want to be repatriated to Somalia. What's the point? Dar al-kufr is dar al-kufr. At least in Kenya they'll be fed.

Somalia is worthless without Islam. Every country is. But in our case it's been proven by the perpetual state of humiliation we've been in since decolonization.

There is literally no reason for Somalia to exist if it is not a Muslim country. We are langaab (under 10 million), dominated politically/economically by Habash, devoid of initiative and completely lacking in international prestige.

Burundi is more respected than Somalia by the non-Muslim world.

Stop lying to yourselves.

Alienating yourself from your creator won't gain you favour from kuffar. Instead you'll get it from both sides. In dunya (as their slave) and in akhira (as a fasiq)

[Insigne]

Never mind, you are a waste of time. I saw your other thread about drinking alcohol.

[Insigne]

lol at how this emperior donkey still hasn't gained one bit of ilm or even slightly improved his English.

He must be nearing 30 now.

What a empty, wasted life.

[LetsCookBreakfast]

As though Somalia has some enviable history without Islam...or well, anything?

Islam civilized us. Without it we are nothing. We need it. It does not need us.

In return for this (outside of a minority of enslaved, zombie, taqleed following Sufi who are really remnants of the colonial system) we kept Islam pure and did not corrupt it. Even our civil war was not justified under reasons of deen. We destroyed ourself through qabiil, alhamdulilah, rather than dividing into sects and incurring Allah's wrath, like the accursed, diseased ahlul-bid'ah who infest the subcontinent.

Now, a few months of evident stability seem to have given Somalis the impression that we are capable of being semi-respectable humans without Islam.

This is a lie and it will be proven.

We were given Shabab as a reward for our sabr and loyalty to Islam despite the poverty, strife and humiliation we suffered. Despite the taghut of the Gulf turning their backs on us.

We were better than them.

Matched only by the lions of Pashtun and the wolves of Chechnya in our pride and observance, and even then unequaled in our observance and purity of religion. Even our Shaykh (Shahid, insha'allah) attested to it.

But we threw Sharia back in Allah's (SWT) face and we will be punished for it.

We are truly the worst of generations.

This is undoubtedly tantamount to betrayal in the eyes of Allah and I will not be associated with it. If there is no Sharia then Somalia means NOTHING to me and I will revoke my citizenship walahi.

We exist solely for your sake and to carry out your desires, ya Allah (SWT).

As I agree that Sharia is the solution for Somalia, al shabaab are not viable candidates to rule over the shacab. They are parasites who don't care for the deen, rather, they want totalitarian rule. We will never accept this oppression!!

Sharia, in order, to be practiced, must be practiced the right way. Stoning girls who were raped is not Sharia, raping women is not Sharia, punishing people without a judicial process is not Sharia, suicide bombing is not Sharia, killing innocent civilians is not Sharia, isbaaro is not sharia, beheading scholars is not sharia, banning bras is not Sharia, banning football is not Sharia, dhulm is not Sharia!!

Inshallahu ta'ala, Ahmed Godane will be beheaded in front of the shacab and Somalia will practice TRUE Sharia. We will be like the majority of the Gulf countries, Inshallah.

[Insigne]

As I agree that Sharia is the solution for Somalia, al shabaab are not viable candidates to rule over the shacab. They are parasites who don't care for the deen, rather, they want totalitarian rule. We will never accept this oppression!!

Sharia, in order, to be practiced, must be practiced the right way. Stoning girls who were raped is not Sharia, raping women is not Sharia, punishing people without a judicial process is not Sharia, suicide bombing is not Sharia, killing innocent civilians is not Sharia, isbaaro is not sharia, beheading scholars is not sharia, banning bras is not Sharia, banning football is not Sharia, dhulm is not Sharia!!

Inshallahu ta'ala, Ahmed Godane will be beheaded in front of the shacab and Somalia will practice TRUE Sharia. We will be like the majority of the Gulf countries, Inshallah.

Unlike the two donkeys above you I will not cast doubt on your intention, but walahi you are misled.

If it is qabiil that blinds you may Allah free you of it. If it is youthful idealism likewise. The fundamentals are there as long as your first sentence was sincere. The rest will come with ilm/experience.

Until then please refrain from making statements like the bolded. May Allah forgive you for it. May we never become taghut or mushrikeen.

[LetsCookBreakfast]

As I agree that Sharia is the solution for Somalia, al shabaab are not viable candidates to rule over the shacab. They are parasites who don't care for the deen, rather, they want totalitarian rule. We will never accept this oppression!!

Sharia, in order, to be practiced, must be practiced the right way. Stoning girls who were raped is not Sharia, raping women is not Sharia, punishing people without a judicial process is not Sharia, suicide bombing is not Sharia, killing innocent civilians is not Sharia, isbaaro is not sharia, beheading scholars is not sharia, banning bras is not Sharia, banning football is not Sharia, dhulm is not Sharia!!

Inshallahu ta'ala, Ahmed Godane will be beheaded in front of the shacab and Somalia will practice TRUE Sharia. We will be like the majority of the Gulf countries, Inshallah.

I will not cast doubt on your intention, but walahi you are misled.

If it is qabiil that blinds you may Allah free you of it. If it is Western influence or sentimentality likewise.

May Allah forgive you for the bolded statement. May we never become taghut or mushrikeen.

How am I misled? So you support all of those listed injustices? You are the misled one. When did I even mention qabiil in my post? Are you illiterate?

[Insigne]

I have edited my post, I feel it was unnecessarily harsh.

I support sacrifice in the name of Allah. Please do not try to entrap fellow Muslims by asking deliberately loaded questions.

I am making an assumption. Typically Somalis who hate Godane do so based on tribal reasons. Ironically he is probably the least tribal prominent Somali figure of the last 50 years.

[AgentOfChaos]

Wow, looks like someone has been drinking that Al-Shabaab kool-aid.

[Clown]

Agent, he deleted all my posts in this thread, he obviously has mod power watch out lol

[grandpakhalif]

Wallahi akhi I agree, but we are not like the Pashtuns 90% of Somalis have turned their backs on Islam and seek the life of this world. What a shameless dishonored people are we.

Allah honoured us with Islam, and if we seek honour from anything else, Allah will humiliate us.

-Umar bin Khattab (RA)

[LetsCookBreakfast]

I have edited my post, I feel it was unnecessarily harsh.

I support sacrifice in the name of Allah. Please do not try to entrap fellow Muslims by asking deliberately loaded questions.

I am making an assumption. Typically Somalis who hate Godane do so based on tribal reasons. Ironically he is probably the least tribal prominent Somali figure of the last 50 years.

No, first of all, suicide bombings are haram, full stop. How can suicide bombing be halal if suicide, no matter whatever the circumstance, is haram? I hate Godane because he's a terrorist who misleads people (like you), kidnaps kids to forcefully fight for him, and is a ruthless power-hungry individual. Stop patronizing people just because you're a terrorist. We don't believe in your self-destructive ideology.

[Insigne]

I have edited my post, I feel it was unnecessarily harsh.

I support sacrifice in the name of Allah. Please do not try to entrap fellow Muslims by asking deliberately loaded questions.

I am making an assumption. Typically Somalis who hate Godane do so based on tribal reasons. Ironically he is probably the least tribal prominent Somali figure of the last 50 years.

No, first of all, suicide bombings are haram, full stop. How can suicide bombing be halal if suicide, no matter whatever the circumstance, is haram? I hate Godane because he's a terrorist who misleads people (like you), kidnaps kids to forcefully fight for him, and is a ruthless power-hungry individual. Stop patronizing people just because you're a terrorist. We don't believe in your self-destructive ideology.

"It is a part of evil desire for you to be preoccupied with mentioning the faults of the oppressed one during his time of oppression but you are silent of an oppressor's tyranny. If oppression befalls, the time becomes a time for support and not a time for evaluation."

- Shaikh Abdulaziz Al-Turaifi

Why don't you criticize the TFG who allow AU soldiers to rape Somali women with carte blanche? Probably for a few dollars, nauzubillah.

Are you a coward?

When your entire criticism of someone boils down to girlish protestations such as the bolded it's clear you have no real argument to make and aren't worth listening to.

Wake up kid. Everybody's a 'ruthless, power hungry individual' and 'terrorist' depending on how you spin it.

Walahi I hope for your sake you're under 15, because I could probably come up with better anti-Islamic rhetoric than this when I was 10.