4 out of 5 in kenya wants KDF out

[Strategic]

http://mg.co.za/article/2014-11-07-al-s ... -of-death/
interesting read,NB,the article is almost year old

[Django]

If wishes were horses beggers would ride on them KDF is here to stay so buckle up.

[SahanGalbeed]

Don't worry brother , they will go sooner than you think . My best hope is with this new military alliance Somalia is part of , muslim troops will replace them if the SNA goes back to degrading God forbid . The only somalis from the North who support Kenya are specific group with tribal ties there , I couldn't care less about those butt shaking ... I have newly discovered that what they call twerking here in the US { with all these assimilated somalis here on the forum talking about "bootyclapping" } actually comes from that region , Uganda/Kenya/Tanzania/Congo , huh? Mali , Niger, Chad , they're not like that wallahi , even in Senegal , where there is an equivalent { talking about booty dancing here }it is more graceful and less primate like{raw/graphic} . I think it's the break between the nilo-saharan influence and the bantus proper , fascinating !

[whitehartlane]

i can assure you tht no muslim countries are replacing due to fear of being next on the western list.
not even turkey can afford the oversea adventures..

besides why are you wishing for other countries to pledge their armies to keep your peace?..

[SahanGalbeed]

Caveat :If the SNA , which by the way is making great progress , for some reason couldn't do it on its own . The enemy is evil and resilient , it will take a change of mentality more than anything else and that doesn't happen overnight

[Strategic]

http://hiiraan.com/news4/2014/July/5580 ... _most.aspx












From german reputed DW

They have been around for some time - anonymous leaflets fueling hatred between different ethnic groups in Kenya. "War is what you wanted and war is what you'll get'" is the message for opposition leader Raila Odinga and members of his ethnic group, the Luo. A different leaflet dated 19.06.2014 gives the Luos a deadline of seven days to leave the province of Rift Valley or "we will enter every single house by force." Social networks are full of threats and messages of hatred between members of the East African country's different ethnic groups. The reason for the latest verbal threats against the Luo seems to be a series of attacks on the coastal town of Mpeketoni where 65 people died on 15 and 16 June. Although the Islamist al-Shabab militia claimed responsibility, President Uhuru Kenyatta spoke of an attack by the opposition directed at his own ethnic group, the Kikuyu.

[Strategic]

i really want kdf to stay as long as deciplined stable army for somalia can fill the power vacuum.unluckily for me kenya has to deal with two fronts now,alshabab,separist mombasa council etc.

[Django]

SNA making great progress killing biyomal? Creating unreast in Hiraan, Dusamareeb and Galkacyo?

Blood you know nothing about Kenya and its politics.So stay out of it.
KDF is here to stay and fight Alshabaab.Thats the main reason they went there.Or unless you are an admirer of Alshabaab then thats another thing all together

[Strategic]

from thelook of things,kdf is losing popularity ,i dont care but their task is unsustainable.

[Django]

Wat popularity?
Is that tabloid from Nation or Eastandard?

Kenya is ruled by an aristocratic family and its their opinion that matters.The Uhuru Kenyatta family.

Tell me which other AMISOM command is sustainable? Even the Djiboutians in Hiraan cannot keep peace nor fight AS.

[SahanGalbeed]

SNA making great progress killing biyomal? Creating unreast in Hiraan, Dusamareeb and Galkacyo?

Blood you know nothing about Kenya and its politics.So stay out of it.
KDF is here to stay and fight Alshabaab.Thats the main reason they went there.Or unless you are an admirer of Alshabaab then thats another thing all together

These are political grievances brother , soldiers do not decide these matters . Kenya is a foreign country with a significant somali population .I will continue to stand by the original UN recommendations that no country which shares a border with Somalia should have their troops present in that country, they can post on their side of the border . Just killing people doesn't work , you have to also kill the sentiment !

[Django]

So what do you propose sahan? That KDF should nevet have ventured and that AS should have continued with their terror and attrocities in the region forcing the population to find shelter in refugees in Kenya? Do you know how much Refugees are in Kenyan camps?

Or you want the UDF to replace KDF.UDF has been well known to be raping vulnerable groups.

(Nairobi) – Soldiers from the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) have sexually abused and exploited vulnerable Somali women and girls on their bases in Mogadishu, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today. Troop-contributing countries, the African Union (AU), and donors to AMISOM should urgently address these abuses and strengthen procedures inside Somalia to seek justice.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/09/08/som ... n-soldiers

[Strategic]

Wat popularity?
Is that tabloid from Nation or Eastandard?

Kenya is ruled by an aristocratic family and its their opinion that matters.The Uhuru Kenyatta family.

Tell me which other AMISOM command is sustainable? Even the Djiboutians in Hiraan cannot keep peace nor fight AS.

at the end of the day,meeshii soomali baas isku soo hareyso.

[Django]

Where is AS? I dont consider them somalis.
Wa kilaab.

[SahanGalbeed]

There is nothing special to my knowledge about the Kenyan military , the West has alwways been in the background . I don't know anything about the UDF, however if I remember correctly the Ugadans were offered the girls with the help of "local pimps " . Yes the KDF should have never ventured in Somalia for I deeply believe it would have been better for Kenya . Everything that al shabaab does to Kenya , they now own it . That's my personal opinion , I am not from the tribes who made deals with them , hence the different perspective