Dear Snetter:Lets Challange The Admirers OF A.Y Seriously!
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Dear Snetter:Lets Challange The Admirers OF A.Y Seriously!
Ladies and Gentlemen, Respected Members of Snet, Distinguished Guests, And Fellow Snetters.
Tonight, I have a high privilege and distinct honor of my own, to present You the following Cogent Argument in a truncated form so as not to waste much of your Precious, Valuable, and Priceless time.
First of all, it is mind boggling that I have noticed as many of you may have seen that since the departure of Abdullahi Yusuf from the high office On December 29, 2008,NOT a day passes in this forum with out some spectacular heap of praises on the EX-president A.Y
We have been bombarded with such ludicrous assertions such as “he was a good president”, ”he was the first president to…” , “He was better than MSB(AUN)” and all that bunch of malarkeys.
What struck me most was that, some of these whoppers do really believe in that load of cattle droppings! It never occurred to me, NEVER in my wildest dream, did I ever think of that there are some people out there, who really show some tendencies to vindicate a hardened criminal who, in the first place belonged to a mental institution rather than to our highest office! Alas.
The level of faith one my have in any kind of argument depends mainly on how accurate, coherent, and consistent it is.
The claim that Abdulahi Yusuf was a good President smacks of hypocrisy, Intellectual dishonesty, and a deliberate attempt to assault our logic.
It is Gods Honest truth, that President Abdulahi Yusuf had demonstrated time and again, during this reign as president, TOTAL lack of Political maturity, wisdom, and an unacceptable leadership qualities.
He notoriously lusted after power, which reduced him to a power hungry immoral being.
Abdulahi Yusuf was elected On October 10, 2004 as a president to all Somali people irrespective of their clan, religion, and creed. He was expected to unite our divided nation and protect Somalia from all kinds of evil, social disintegration and more specifically from foreign aggression.
Unfortunately, the EX-president, Turned out to be a cruel, evil, and barbarous SADIST who drew pleasure from seeing the suffering of his own people. As the head of the state, he was largely responsible for the arrival of Ethiopian troops in Xamar and the subsequent horrific genocide that followed!
Mr.Yeey, Possessed by hatred and blinded by harsh and narrow ultra-tribalism ordered his troops to indulge in a relentless robbing spree in some parts of Mogadishu markets, with the evil intention of undermining the economic growth of some particular communities.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Ex-president shortcomings are innumerable, countless and therefore it is impossible to contain them in one thread.
The above-mentioned qualities coupled with his 90-year-old career as a lackey, oblige us to form our own opinions of the man and even Question the worthiness of his whole existence.
Contrary to the popular belief, that President Yusuf was a veteran politician who had a concept of how real things work in real world, A.Y confirmed in many occasions to be intellectually destitute and always felt hapless when faced with intellectually challenging situations. No wonder that, Prime Minsiter, Nuur cadde, A gifted man by all account, easily outfoxed him and ultimately made him eat a humble pie.
Having said, there is one more ridiculous one, it is the ludicrous way they compare A.Y to MSB (AUN), how absurd that they think so? How appalling that they can come up with such feeble and unconvincing argument that doesn’t contain any splinter of truth in it? The illogic of that straw argument never ceases to amaze me.
Therefore, I would like to my views on that comparison quite Crystal clear, preferably in a laconic phrase.
Siyad barre`s Leadership Qualities, Flawed though it was, sinister though it might be and problematic though it may undoubtedly remain, was much better than that of A/Y!
It will be hypocritical of me, to only pinpoint to the negative, ominous and dark sides of Mr.A.Y while ignoring his contributions to Somalia, but It does not take a great wisdom to conclude that the ex-president contributions are nothing more than zeros, but to the blind admirers of this guy -who are basically hypersensitive to any kind of criticism against the ex-president-I will give them the benefit of doubt and double dare any of them to ENLIGHTEN those who find themselves In an abysmal of ignorance about A.Y constructive role in the nation.
It is a temptation for any intelligent person to see the viewpoints of those who adore what he/she abhors and loathes .but the start reality that A.Y does not deserve to be called president but an Ethiopian Quisling as our Quasi-religious character Kolombo put it, may seem unacceptable to them, and it is of course,a bitter pill to swallow, so that have invented some lamebrain scheme to make us follow them blindly by spreading propaganda In favor of abdilahi yusuf.
I hope this thread will be an eye opener for all those who seem to be fed some crap about A.Y magical charisma, and that their pressing need to KNOW THE TRUTH has been fullfilled, but to allow the current state of affairs to persist would be to let the ignorance breed and pollute the minds of our unsuspecting citizens.
I conclude my argument with the firm belief that some of A.Y admirers will clearly comprehend the message that I am trying to convey, while others will find this reality a nightmare and will not fathom the essence of this argument, as it is impossible for a mediocre intellect to render the speech of a superior one!
Hard-line sympathizers of A.Y like the infamous Ureyso -whose vocabulary of words contain mainly of vulgarities, indecencies and obscenities coupled with her unacceptable description of male/female organs which might undoubtedly speak volumes about the sluttish lifestyle she may be leading now (well, you may agree or disagree with me on this one)-will find difficulty in the comprehension of this argument.
Parallel to her comes the natural born liar aka somalilianboqor whose propaganda keep assaulting our ears even when his unpopular uncle became a history, followed by dummies like Mohamed bin xaarti and alluring.
Had there Not been such wise men like Somaliweyn, Kolombo, Voltage, Twisted_Logic and Abdiwahab252 to expose the hypocritical double standards of these buffoons, then this forum would have an empty propaganda playground.
There fore, let every intelligent person seriously contemplate this subject
That for all ladies and Gentlemen, Thanks so much for your time.
Tonight, I have a high privilege and distinct honor of my own, to present You the following Cogent Argument in a truncated form so as not to waste much of your Precious, Valuable, and Priceless time.
First of all, it is mind boggling that I have noticed as many of you may have seen that since the departure of Abdullahi Yusuf from the high office On December 29, 2008,NOT a day passes in this forum with out some spectacular heap of praises on the EX-president A.Y
We have been bombarded with such ludicrous assertions such as “he was a good president”, ”he was the first president to…” , “He was better than MSB(AUN)” and all that bunch of malarkeys.
What struck me most was that, some of these whoppers do really believe in that load of cattle droppings! It never occurred to me, NEVER in my wildest dream, did I ever think of that there are some people out there, who really show some tendencies to vindicate a hardened criminal who, in the first place belonged to a mental institution rather than to our highest office! Alas.
The level of faith one my have in any kind of argument depends mainly on how accurate, coherent, and consistent it is.
The claim that Abdulahi Yusuf was a good President smacks of hypocrisy, Intellectual dishonesty, and a deliberate attempt to assault our logic.
It is Gods Honest truth, that President Abdulahi Yusuf had demonstrated time and again, during this reign as president, TOTAL lack of Political maturity, wisdom, and an unacceptable leadership qualities.
He notoriously lusted after power, which reduced him to a power hungry immoral being.
Abdulahi Yusuf was elected On October 10, 2004 as a president to all Somali people irrespective of their clan, religion, and creed. He was expected to unite our divided nation and protect Somalia from all kinds of evil, social disintegration and more specifically from foreign aggression.
Unfortunately, the EX-president, Turned out to be a cruel, evil, and barbarous SADIST who drew pleasure from seeing the suffering of his own people. As the head of the state, he was largely responsible for the arrival of Ethiopian troops in Xamar and the subsequent horrific genocide that followed!
Mr.Yeey, Possessed by hatred and blinded by harsh and narrow ultra-tribalism ordered his troops to indulge in a relentless robbing spree in some parts of Mogadishu markets, with the evil intention of undermining the economic growth of some particular communities.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Ex-president shortcomings are innumerable, countless and therefore it is impossible to contain them in one thread.
The above-mentioned qualities coupled with his 90-year-old career as a lackey, oblige us to form our own opinions of the man and even Question the worthiness of his whole existence.
Contrary to the popular belief, that President Yusuf was a veteran politician who had a concept of how real things work in real world, A.Y confirmed in many occasions to be intellectually destitute and always felt hapless when faced with intellectually challenging situations. No wonder that, Prime Minsiter, Nuur cadde, A gifted man by all account, easily outfoxed him and ultimately made him eat a humble pie.
Having said, there is one more ridiculous one, it is the ludicrous way they compare A.Y to MSB (AUN), how absurd that they think so? How appalling that they can come up with such feeble and unconvincing argument that doesn’t contain any splinter of truth in it? The illogic of that straw argument never ceases to amaze me.
Therefore, I would like to my views on that comparison quite Crystal clear, preferably in a laconic phrase.
Siyad barre`s Leadership Qualities, Flawed though it was, sinister though it might be and problematic though it may undoubtedly remain, was much better than that of A/Y!
It will be hypocritical of me, to only pinpoint to the negative, ominous and dark sides of Mr.A.Y while ignoring his contributions to Somalia, but It does not take a great wisdom to conclude that the ex-president contributions are nothing more than zeros, but to the blind admirers of this guy -who are basically hypersensitive to any kind of criticism against the ex-president-I will give them the benefit of doubt and double dare any of them to ENLIGHTEN those who find themselves In an abysmal of ignorance about A.Y constructive role in the nation.
It is a temptation for any intelligent person to see the viewpoints of those who adore what he/she abhors and loathes .but the start reality that A.Y does not deserve to be called president but an Ethiopian Quisling as our Quasi-religious character Kolombo put it, may seem unacceptable to them, and it is of course,a bitter pill to swallow, so that have invented some lamebrain scheme to make us follow them blindly by spreading propaganda In favor of abdilahi yusuf.
I hope this thread will be an eye opener for all those who seem to be fed some crap about A.Y magical charisma, and that their pressing need to KNOW THE TRUTH has been fullfilled, but to allow the current state of affairs to persist would be to let the ignorance breed and pollute the minds of our unsuspecting citizens.
I conclude my argument with the firm belief that some of A.Y admirers will clearly comprehend the message that I am trying to convey, while others will find this reality a nightmare and will not fathom the essence of this argument, as it is impossible for a mediocre intellect to render the speech of a superior one!
Hard-line sympathizers of A.Y like the infamous Ureyso -whose vocabulary of words contain mainly of vulgarities, indecencies and obscenities coupled with her unacceptable description of male/female organs which might undoubtedly speak volumes about the sluttish lifestyle she may be leading now (well, you may agree or disagree with me on this one)-will find difficulty in the comprehension of this argument.
Parallel to her comes the natural born liar aka somalilianboqor whose propaganda keep assaulting our ears even when his unpopular uncle became a history, followed by dummies like Mohamed bin xaarti and alluring.
Had there Not been such wise men like Somaliweyn, Kolombo, Voltage, Twisted_Logic and Abdiwahab252 to expose the hypocritical double standards of these buffoons, then this forum would have an empty propaganda playground.
There fore, let every intelligent person seriously contemplate this subject
That for all ladies and Gentlemen, Thanks so much for your time.
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Re: Dear Snetter:Lets Challange The Admirers OF A.Y Seriously!
Adeer, Well written article
You have a bright future in politics


You have a bright future in politics

Re: Dear Snetter:Lets Challange The Admirers OF A.Y Seriously!
Nothing but nonsense, damn cagli dameer.
You conveniently forgot to mention that A/Y had the complete support your mudulood. The only loosers that came out this TFG are so far ultimately you abgaals.
You conveniently forgot to mention that A/Y had the complete support your mudulood. The only loosers that came out this TFG are so far ultimately you abgaals.
Re: Dear Snetter:Lets Challange The Admirers OF A.Y Seriously!
All I see is blah blah and more blah blah.



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Re: Dear Snetter:Lets Challange The Admirers OF A.Y Seriously!
And why we want to discuss A/Y???
He is gone...
Let us talk about the present and let us move forward...Or we want to talk about him another 18 yrs like we did Siyad Barre (AUN)..Are we trying here to have a scapegoat of the challenges ahead? Let us work together to tackle those challenges instead of going back...Let us move forward for once...God

Let us talk about the present and let us move forward...Or we want to talk about him another 18 yrs like we did Siyad Barre (AUN)..Are we trying here to have a scapegoat of the challenges ahead? Let us work together to tackle those challenges instead of going back...Let us move forward for once...God

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Re: Dear Snetter:Lets Challange The Admirers OF A.Y Seriously!
Bimoos Daanyeeruttu is CALLINg all the CONFLICTING parts to the NEGOTIOTING and RECOCILIATION TABEL !!!
Let's be RECONCILERS rather than ANARCHIST and ADHERE to ur ADMIN&NODS!!!!!
Let's CLOSE our EYES and BRING our FISTS slightely towarads our CHESTS!!!!
BAAAANNNNNAAAAALLLLLEEEELLLLLLUJA!!!!!!!
Ur Truth&Reconciliation Commmission in S'net!!!!!!
YYY Bimoos Daanyeeruttu YYYY
Let's be RECONCILERS rather than ANARCHIST and ADHERE to ur ADMIN&NODS!!!!!
Let's CLOSE our EYES and BRING our FISTS slightely towarads our CHESTS!!!!
BAAAANNNNNAAAAALLLLLEEEELLLLLLUJA!!!!!!!
Ur Truth&Reconciliation Commmission in S'net!!!!!!
YYY Bimoos Daanyeeruttu YYYY
Re: Dear Snetter:Lets Challange The Admirers OF A.Y Seriously!
abdiwhab thanks ina adeer
rebellion
that is called redherring,and you really digressed from the main topic
cawar
i knew you would say that!
damn kids!
To the Mods
i though this thread had nothing to do with clan why move it? that is uncool of you! shame on you dummies.
rebellion
that is called redherring,and you really digressed from the main topic
cawar
i knew you would say that!
damn kids!
To the Mods
i though this thread had nothing to do with clan why move it? that is uncool of you! shame on you dummies.
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Re: Dear Snetter:Lets Challange The Admirers OF A.Y Seriously!
At this time I would like to take credit for Addoow post as I am the number 1 supporter of his excellency ex President Abduallhi Yusuf.
Addoow inadeer A/Y is a man of high morality. He is a Somali legend and Icon in Somali History. He has fought bravely for his Country in 1964 and than again in 1977. He has great footprint in Somali history whether you like it or not. From having the balls to standing up to Siyad Barre when the rest of Somaliweyn were pissing in their pants hearing the dicators name. To forming the first organized assult to bring down the regime.
A proud founding father of Puntland State and than heading the first transional government to actually have merit in the south and become a force to be reckoned with
The TFG, Puntland iyo Somalia's future is A/Y legacy.


Addoow inadeer A/Y is a man of high morality. He is a Somali legend and Icon in Somali History. He has fought bravely for his Country in 1964 and than again in 1977. He has great footprint in Somali history whether you like it or not. From having the balls to standing up to Siyad Barre when the rest of Somaliweyn were pissing in their pants hearing the dicators name. To forming the first organized assult to bring down the regime.
A proud founding father of Puntland State and than heading the first transional government to actually have merit in the south and become a force to be reckoned with
The TFG, Puntland iyo Somalia's future is A/Y legacy.


Re: Dear Snetter:Lets Challange The Admirers OF A.Y Seriously!
Interesting point.
Your idea that the Ethiopian Invasion was the brainchild of Abdullahi Yusuf (he was largely responsible, as Head of State, you see) conflicts with itself, or with your other idea that he was an easily manoeuvred, political lightweight.
Abdullahi Yusuf did not have dictatorial powers that he could make unilateral decisions, could he? If he could, then he is a master politician, turning a 'democratic' government into a dictatorship without so much as a peep from the rest of the world. If he could not, then the most pertinent question is; where were the Members of Parliament when Abdullahi Yusuf was plotting this Ethiopian Invasion.
In light of your first idea, there could only be three possibilities; the majority of the Members of Parliament were actually his willing conspirators in the Invasion Plot, which would make them collectively responsible, not just Abdullahi Yusuf, invalidating your first assertion. Or, the majority of the Members of Parliament were opposed to the Invasion Plot, but where none the less politically manoeuvred into irrelevancy as the Invasion went ahead as planned, thus making invalidating your second assertion.
Just out of curiosity, how many Members of Parliament, specifically the vaunted Nur Cadde, voted against, or took publically identifiable measures or stands against the Ethiopian Invasion plans?
Your idea that the Ethiopian Invasion was the brainchild of Abdullahi Yusuf (he was largely responsible, as Head of State, you see) conflicts with itself, or with your other idea that he was an easily manoeuvred, political lightweight.
Abdullahi Yusuf did not have dictatorial powers that he could make unilateral decisions, could he? If he could, then he is a master politician, turning a 'democratic' government into a dictatorship without so much as a peep from the rest of the world. If he could not, then the most pertinent question is; where were the Members of Parliament when Abdullahi Yusuf was plotting this Ethiopian Invasion.
In light of your first idea, there could only be three possibilities; the majority of the Members of Parliament were actually his willing conspirators in the Invasion Plot, which would make them collectively responsible, not just Abdullahi Yusuf, invalidating your first assertion. Or, the majority of the Members of Parliament were opposed to the Invasion Plot, but where none the less politically manoeuvred into irrelevancy as the Invasion went ahead as planned, thus making invalidating your second assertion.
Just out of curiosity, how many Members of Parliament, specifically the vaunted Nur Cadde, voted against, or took publically identifiable measures or stands against the Ethiopian Invasion plans?
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Re: Dear Snetter:Lets Challange The Admirers OF A.Y Seriously!
Well said Padishah. 

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Re: Dear Snetter:Lets Challange The Admirers OF A.Y Seriously!
Nur Ade was never a member of the parliament. It is laughable to expect him to vote against the Ethiopian invasion.Padishah wrote:Interesting point.
Your idea that the Ethiopian Invasion was the brainchild of Abdullahi Yusuf (he was largely responsible, as Head of State, you see) conflicts with itself, or with your other idea that he was an easily manoeuvred, political lightweight.
Abdullahi Yusuf did not have dictatorial powers that he could make unilateral decisions, could he? If he could, then he is a master politician, turning a 'democratic' government into a dictatorship without so much as a peep from the rest of the world. If he could not, then the most pertinent question is; where were the Members of Parliament when Abdullahi Yusuf was plotting this Ethiopian Invasion.
In light of your first idea, there could only be three possibilities; the majority of the Members of Parliament were actually his willing conspirators in the Invasion Plot, which would make them collectively responsible, not just Abdullahi Yusuf, invalidating your first assertion. Or, the majority of the Members of Parliament were opposed to the Invasion Plot, but where none the less politically manoeuvred into irrelevancy as the Invasion went ahead as planned, thus making invalidating your second assertion.
Just out of curiosity, how many Members of Parliament, specifically the vaunted Nur Cadde, voted against, or took publically identifiable measures or stands against the Ethiopian Invasion plans?
ps
The important thing you forget is that the Ethiopian Invasion was shoved down our throats by international actors. Somalis in general and AY in particular had no say in the arrival of the Ethiopian. Nevertheless, AY and his cronies were beating the war drums for Ethiopia the day he was elected and that makes him a complicit to genocide and Addow is right in calling him a traitor. To equate the behavior of AY and his cronies to other members of the parliament ( some who have committed serious moral and legal breaches in their silence to the massacre in Xamar) is quite illogical.
Re: Dear Snetter:Lets Challange The Admirers OF A.Y Seriously!
Please. Taking Addow's statements to their logical conclusions is hardly an endorsement of Abdullahi Yusuf, so don't misconstrue my words.
Twisted, I was curious as to how the duly elected 'people's representative' felt about their government's support of the Invasion. Nur Cadde not being a part of that bunch is good news.
Twisted, I was curious as to how the duly elected 'people's representative' felt about their government's support of the Invasion. Nur Cadde not being a part of that bunch is good news.
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