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The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby paidmonk » Thu May 20, 2010 3:43 pm

If we have a say in Xamar do you think we'll stop for Kismayo?

Majerteen will always take part in dictating southern politics, period, and it won't change anytime soon.

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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby xoogSADE14 » Thu May 20, 2010 3:44 pm

If we have a say in Xamar do you think we'll stop for Kismayo?
Flawed logic. Xamar is the capital of the whole country. Kismayo is a regional capital. The day that I have a say in Garoowe, you'll have a say in Kismayo.

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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby gemini07 » Thu May 20, 2010 3:46 pm

If we have a say in Xamar do you think we'll stop for Kismayo?
Flawed logic. Xamar is the capital of the whole country. Kismayo is a regional capital. The day that I have a say in Garoowe, you'll have a say in Kismayo.
You can have a say on the number of bags of quule allocated to the Gedo IDP camp based in Garowe. :P

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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby oldenglish » Thu May 20, 2010 3:47 pm

If we have a say in Xamar do you think we'll stop for Kismayo?
Flawed logic. Xamar is the capital of the whole country. Kismayo is a regional capital. The day that I have a say in Garoowe, you'll have a say in Kismayo.

Invalid, since when did Marehan inhabit Garowe?


paid Xamar and Kimaayo are a little different. Kismaayo has a history where MJs have migrated to the port town while Xamar a little less recent up until the union of Somalia.

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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby gemini07 » Thu May 20, 2010 3:50 pm


Invalid, since when did Marehan inhabit Garowe?



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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby xoogSADE14 » Thu May 20, 2010 3:57 pm

Like I said you guys are more than welcome to live in the city, have businesses and thrive but not in running the affairs of the city or the future state.

Mareexaans live in Gaalkacyo, they obey the law and run their businesses. Take a cue from them or we'll put you guys on boats bound for Bosaso. lol.

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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby oldenglish » Thu May 20, 2010 4:03 pm

Like I said you guys are more than welcome to live in the city, have businesses and thrive but not in running the affairs of the city or the future state.

Mareexaans live in Gaalkacyo, they obey the law and run their businesses. Take a cue from them or we'll put you guys on boats bound for Bosaso. lol.

I wouldnt have a problem if Marexaan ruled their own territory even if it included kismaayo. Who would oppose a progressive developed administration benefitting the people of the region. But that isnt the case its all a bad dream, you really believe you guys can rule yourselves?

MJs have their own division among them yet the have a mammul. It shows really how much significance and influence you have over the region. If Warsangeli and Majarteen are battling Shabab and then an agreement of peace came up between them it isnt one from Marehan. Its Hawiye/RRA and these are the power brokers of the regions.

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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby xoogSADE14 » Thu May 20, 2010 4:08 pm

Neocon

How can you expect to be taken seriously when you start your argument with the premise that my people are incapably of ruling anything when all evidence points to the contrary?

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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby grandpakhalif » Thu May 20, 2010 4:10 pm

Neocon

How can you expect to be taken seriously when you start your argument with the premise that my people are incapably of ruling anything when all evidence points to the contrary?
It's futile inadeer, don't get caught up in internet fantasies.

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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby Serena » Thu May 20, 2010 4:11 pm

why do y'all give this wheelchair bound oday airtime? he's probably never seen kismaayo in his life. he went from gedo to the ghetto (via utanga). don't bother with him. :) :up:

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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby oldenglish » Thu May 20, 2010 4:14 pm

Neocon

How can you expect to be taken seriously when you start your argument with the premise that my people are incapably of ruling anything when all evidence points to the contrary?

Take me serious or not, Marexaan need to rise to the occasion and take control of their home region-Gedo. If it extends into administrating Kismaayo or even xamar then good. Id support you guys 100% but the politics your people have been playing hasnt benefitted clan interest nor the muslim ummah.

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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby xoogSADE14 » Thu May 20, 2010 4:57 pm

Marexaan need to rise to the occasion and take control of their home region-Gedo. If it extends into administrating Kismaayo or even xamar then good. Id support you guys 100% but the politics your people have been playing hasnt benefitted clan interest nor the muslim ummah.
Constructive criticism is always welcome :up:

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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby abdalla11 » Thu May 20, 2010 5:22 pm

Xaa rabtiin? Kismayo unuka leh

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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby mvp » Thu May 20, 2010 5:28 pm

alshabaab used and abused ilkoyar in kista like a condom, they killed and refused even to acknowledge like he was a rat one of most respected ilkoyar who backed hiraale. he thought when madoobe was kicked out, kista come to ilka yar hands, that immature calculation which alot of ilkoyaris shared with him cost to him his live. it was just to day that ilkoyar websire called gedoweb reported how the ilko yaris are harrased and killed in kista. and yet some ignorant ilkoyaris here are claiming ilkoyar alshabaab controll kista, there is more eleey alshabaab in kista then ilkayaris are in alshabaab as a whole.

Magaalada Kismaayo waxaa hadda ku sugan ninka afhayeenka u ah Shabaab Sheekh Cali Maxamuud Raagge oo Cali Dheere ay u yaqaanaan, Cali wuxuu baabuur kaga soo safray Muqdisho isagoo horay u soo maray gobolka Shabeelada hoose.

Haddaba waxaa soo baxay ujeedooyinka ka dambeysa sababta uu ninkaas u tagay magaalada xeebta ku taalla, Cali Dheere waxaa tagitaankiisa soo de-dejisay markii magaalada lagu xiray Mustafe Cali Caanood madaxii hore ururka Khaalid Binu Waliid oo xaaladda uu ku sugan yahay warar is-khilaafsan ay ka soo baxayaan.


Sababta labaad ee u tagay Sheekh Cali Maxamuud Raagge Kismaayo waxay tahay in niman ay ilmo adeero yihiin uu kala hadlo in ay sii xoojiyaan ku sii sugnaashahooda Kismaayo si uu sii helo Sheerka isaga iyo rag kale oo Shabaab ah ay ku liyihiin dekedda Kismaayo.

Haddaan soo qaato tan Sheekh Mustafe Cali Caanood, Sheekh gurigiis ayaa lagala baxay isaga iyo rag kale oo beesha Sade ka tirsan shantii bishan waxaa la geeyey saldhigga markii dambana xabsiga sida nagu maqaalo ah, ninka xiray ee horkacayey kuwa guriga soo weeraray waxaa magaciisa lagu sheegay Abuu-Hureyra oo saldhigga xukuma iyo waliba sidoo kale rag ay isku jifo yihiin Cali Dheere oo aargoosi qabiil u yimid magaalada.



Markii la xiray kadib ayaa Cali Dheere Kismaayo tagay si aan ninkaas loo siideyn, warar kala duwan ayaa ka soo baxayo in uu nool yahay iyo inkale wararka qaar waxay sheegayaan in la dilay mar hore, halka kuwa kalana ay muujinayaan in uu nool yahay, annaguse ma xaqiijin karno geeridiisa.



Dadka Kismaayo waxay isla dhexmarayaan in laga waayey goobtii uu ku xirnaa, suurtagalno ay tahay in la dilay goor hore.



Cali Dheere si uu u xaqiijiyo in aan la siideyn Sheekh Musfate ayuu la kulmay dhowr nin oo ciddiisa ah iyo qolyo kale.



Odayaasha dhaqanka iyo aqoonyahanka beesha Sade dal iyo dibad waxay ka dalbanayaan waxgaradka kale ee beesha ee ku sugan Kismaayo in ay war cad ka soo saaraan nolol iyo geeri xaaladda Sheekh Mustafe oo ah wadaad af-gaaban, aad u yaqaano Diinta Islaamka, una go'an Cibaadada Alle, ururadan magaca Diimaha huwana aan kamid aheyn waayadan dambe.



Beesha Sade sidoo kale waxay ka codsaneysaa kuwa maamulka Kismaayo sheeganayo in la soo cadeeyo halka uu ku sugan yahay Sheekhu.



In-dhawaalaba Kismaayo waxaa si dadban uga socda barakaca lagu hayo dadka u dhashay deegaanada Jubbooyinka, kuwa taleefanada loo soo dirayo iyo qaar kale ee sida tooska ah loogu sheegayo in ay magaalada ka baxaan, aragtideyda arrintaasu waa fekrad guracan oo ay wataan daneystayaal magaca Diinta ka been sheegayo oo gobolo kale ka yimid.



Gabagabadii qoraalkeyga waxaan ummadda Soomaaliyeed Illaahay uga baryeyaa in uu dhibaatada ka bixiyo, waanagana la kulansiiyo, xumaantana Alle ka reebo.

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Re: The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

Postby abdalla11 » Thu May 20, 2010 5:36 pm

Horta why do these mareexan members livein lalaland? they claimed Ahlu sunnah waljameecah being Mareexaan, alshabaab being mareexaan and recently i read that they called the mareexaan vs al-itixaad in gedo mid nineties 'inter-marexaan war' thus claiming al-itixaad as mareexaan? :lol:

If they were so powerful why were they beat up in the somali parliament? please someone post that video, just to remind them how pathetic they are :down: mareexaan worrying about kismaayo is an abgaal in xamar worrying about the palestinian plight, fix your home first :arrow:


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