The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo in 1880s

[D-Runner]

"The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo dates from the 1880s, when Harti traders from north-east Somalia established a foothold in the town. The main Harti group to settle in the town were Majeerteen traders from Ras Hafuun, who were known as 'Hafuuni'. Conflicts between the Osman Mahmoud and the Ali Suleiban Majeerteen, in north-east Somalia, led many of the Ali Suleiban to migrate to Kismayo (see diagram 8). Further migrations by the Issa Mahmoud and the Dolbahunte took place during the wars of the Sayid Abdulla Hassan (the 'Mad Mullah'), in the first two decades of this century."

http://www.nzdl.org/cgi-bin/library.cgi ... 1edf2.6.fc

ps. The Ilkoyar really need to quit with the hearsay and bring forth a real scholarly finding, because according to this same source its proven that they themselves are in fact the new arrivals to the area:

"Ecological pressures in Gedo region, caused partly by the influx of Ethiopian refugees into that region in the early 1980s, resulted in a southwards encroachment of Marehan pastoralists into Ogadeni grazing lands (degaan). Backed by the thinly veiled Marehan regime of Siad Barre, this led to armed conflicts between the Marehan and Ogadenis around Afmedu in 1988."

[oldenglish]

FAALO:- SIDEEBAA LOO KALA DEGAA DEGAANADA JUBOOYINKA, GEDO IYO BAKOOL

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Faalo:- Wax waliba waxay leeyihiin Qoraal ama tixraac taariikheed oo lagu aqoonsado summadna u ahaada jiilka hore, Jiilka keena iyo kan mustaqbalka intaba. Warbixintan iyo falanqeynta waxaa iska kaashaday akhristayaasha iyo qorayaasha Soomaaliyeed iyadoo ay doonayaan iney dadweynaha kale la wadaagaan xogtan iyo cilmi kororsigan.

Markaan usoo dego Ujeeddadayda oo ah Deegaanka Koonfurta Soomaaliya ee ay deggaan Beesha Daarood oo kamid ah Beelaha Soomaalida waxaan u qeybinayaa laba Gobol kuwaasoo kala ah Gobolada Jubbooyinka J/Hoose, J/Dhexe iyo Gedo iyo Qeyb ka mid ah Gobolka Bakool:

Fadlan Waxii Qalad ah nagu soo dir emailadan iqra51@hotmail.com iyo editor@laasqoray.net

GOBOLKA J/HOOSE: SIDA LOO DEGO.

Kismaayo

Deegaanada Jubada Hoose Kismaayo ayaa ugu weyn, Kismaayo goobtii ay kasoo farcamatey ama centerka waa Calanley waana xaafada Xeebta dhinaceed bari waxaa xiga dekeda cusub, dhinaceeda koonfureedna waxaa xiga airporka. Xaafadaas waxaa degenaa oo degen Harti oo ay ugu badan yihiin Cismaan Ibraahim ama dadka loo yaqaano Cawramale, waxaa ku xigey Cismaan Maxamuud, dadkani waa haraagii markii boqortooyinkii Warsangeli iyo Majeerteen ee Waqooyi iyo Bari ay dhulka jubooyinka ay ganacsi ahaan ugu yimadeen dhamaadkii qarnigiii 18aad.(dad badan baan ogeyn sida ay harti ku tageen koonfurta).

Qaabka loo kala dago

Kismaayo
Harti(Warsangeli, Majeerteen, Dhulbahante iyo Kaskii Qabi Harti) 66%.Absame/Marexaan iyo qabaa'ilka kale 34%

Xafaadaha Kismaayo

CALANLEY
HARTI (Kaskii Qabe, Majeerten iyo Warsangeli) iyo Baajuun

FARJANO
HARTI+ABSAME+GERI IWM

FIA AFMADOW
HARTI(Warsangeli)+Gaaljecel

XERO GUUL WADE IYO WARSHADA HILIBKA
Sade-Harti

LUGA BAXSI
HARTI(Kaskii Qabe, Majeerteen, Warsangeli iyo Dhulbahante

FANOOLE
Harti

AARGADA
HARTI(Dhulbahante iyo Kaskii Qabe)

SIINAY
OGADEN ABSAME

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Magaalooyinka kale
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Afmadow
Absame/Ogadeen.

Badhaadhe
Absame/Ogadeen.

Kulbiyo
Harti iyo absame

Hoosungoo
Harti iyo absame

Jammaame
Biyomaal, Absame iyo Harti.

Xagar
Absame/Bartile.

Raskaambooni
Absame/Ogaadeen.

Liboyo-Somaali/Dhoobley
Absame/Ogaadeen.

BuuloXaaji
Harti(Cowramale)

GOBOLKA J/DHEXE: SIDA LOO DEGO.

Bu,aale
Absame/Ogaadeen.

Saakow
Absame/Ogaadeen,Raxaweyn.

Jilib
Absame(Ogaadeen,weyteen) Galjecel, iyo Shekhaal.

Mareerey
Tunni/Biyamaal iyo Absame/Ogaadeen.

GOBOLKA GEDO: SIDA LOO DEGO.

Garbahaarey
Sade/mareexaan.

Baardheere
Absame(Ogadeen), Mareexaan iyo Raxaweyn

Buurdhuubo
Sade/Mareexaan.

Luuq & Ganaane
Sade/mareexaan, Absame (Ogaadeen).

Buulo Xaawo
Sade/Mareexaan.

Faafxadhuun
Absame/Ogaadeen.

Doolow-Gedo
Sade/Mareexaan.

CeelWaaq
Garre, Mareexaan, Ogaadeen iyo Dagoodi.

GOBOLKA BAKOOL: QEYBTA BEESHA DAAROOD.

Yeed
Absame/Ogaadeen.

Aato
Absame/Ogaadeen.

Shimbiraale
Absame/Ogaadeen.

Rabdhuure
Absame/Ogaadeen, Dir.

Xabow
Absame/Ogaadeen.

Ceelbarde
Absame/Ogaadeen.

Waxaa jira beelo laga yaabo inay wax kadeggaan deegaanada aan kor ku magacaabay oo aan ka tagay,sidoo kale waxaan filayaa istaatiitikada xisaabeed inay tahay mida saxda ah ee loo kala dego dhulka Koonfureed ee Soomaaliya.

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[grandpakhalif]

Who is the majority today?

[gemini07]

Who is the majority today?

Same as Gedo ,Al Shabaab footsoldiers from all over the globe.

[oldenglish]

Who is the majority today?

Same as Gedo ,Al Shabaab .

And their leader is Isaaq

[gemini07]

Who is the majority today?

Same as Gedo ,Al Shabaab .

And their leader is Isaaq

. Kismayo iskadhaaf ,Gedo baa la haysta.

[oldenglish]

Its really embarrasing we cant even have a dhulo minister from Isaaqland walk freely in Maakhir and you got a Isaaq shababist ruling Kismaayo.

Jabki Warsangeli

[oldenglish]

[quote="gemini07'']

. Kismayo iskadhaaf ,Gedo baa la haysta.[/quote]


Gedo is the land of the minorities.

[gemini07]

Gedo is the land of the minorities.

Minorities and foreigners are bullying the ilkoyars in Gedo,iyagana Kismaayo beey ku riyoodaan.Allow hanaga dhigin dad dantooda aqoon.

[oldenglish]

Gedo is the land of the minorities.

Minorities and foreigners are bullying the ilkoyars in Gedo,iyagana Kismaayo beey ku riyoodaan.Allow hanaga dhigin dad dantooda aqoon.

Wallahi I really dont understand them, they keep discussing JubbaH. but the reality the power brokers of that land is MJ&WR and has never been Gedoians until the civil war and the destruction and isbaroo of Kismaayo.

Time and time it feels like they want what was never theirs nor do they know the concept of mammul thats why Rahanweyn, then Ceyr, then now Shabab rules Southern Somalia.

Thats why anyone in that region assumes minority status and shouldnt be acknowlegded as otherwise.

We've done too much for the beloved Kismaayo and now its ruled by an Isaaq psycho, its a low, a low which cant be recovered from.

[xoogSADE14]

Waxaan waxba idinka galin waqtiga ha'isaga lumininee dhaboyaco ordaha walaalihiin reer puntland idinla ah ku taageera ineey somaliland dhulkooda ka saartaan.

South of Galkacyo= wax shaqo ah weligiin ku yeelan meeysaan.

[oldenglish]

Waxaan waxba idinka galin waqtiga ha'isaga lumininee dhaboyaco ordaha walaalihiin reer puntland idinla ah ku taageera ineey somaliland dhulkooda ka saartaan.

South of Galkacyo= wax shaqo ah weligiin ku yeelan meeysaan.

Is the mouse making a noise

[gemini07]

Waxaan waxba idinka galin waqtiga ha'isaga lumininee dhaboyaco ordaha walaalihiin reer puntland idinla ah ku taageera ineey somaliland dhulkooda ka saartaan.

South of Galkacyo= wax shaqo ah weligiin ku yeelan meeysaan.

South , North and West of Galkacyo shaqo ilaa iyo yowmal qiyaama waan ku lahaaninaa. Wax aa tihiin baa iska yar.You guys were shown what you're NOT worth in Somali politics when even the 0.5 hold a higher position in the TFG You have no political base ANYWHERE in Somalia ,bullied in your own strongholds ,your messiah chased to Dooloow ,Xanuun soo maaha ?

[grandpakhalif]

You must be kidding me, you don't know the reality on the ground, I actually have contacts in Kismayo. Let me my uncle is a Al Shabaab commander, in Kismayo. Look at what Al Shabaab has done to your beloved Harti(Remember Canoole ?) Al Shabaab eliminated them with ease. The majority of Al Shabaab is Marehan and minorities, it's funny how you people think Barre Hiiraale was kicked out by a outside force it was actually Marehan division, most Marehan clerics became tired of his antics and even Marehan elders told him to leave to prevent further casualties. Al Shabaab has vied for Marehan support so much that Kismayo city council, is majority Beesha Sade. Look at Xisbul Islam today, an Ogaden contingent was humiliated and kicked out of Kismayo because they were conflicting the interest of Marehan, another instance of Al Shabaab appeasement . In reality Marehan plays a significant role in Al Shabaab Jubba and Harti significance in Kismayo waa sheeko SNET iyo nostalgia

[gemini07]

The majority of Al Shabaab is Marehan and minorities,

Ahlu Sunnah wal Jameeca was also supposedly majority Marehan
Beentiina cidna idinkama dhageeysaniso. "21st century slave "