MJ's alone can be considered 'a qabiil''

whitehartlane · Post by **whitehartlane** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:56 am

tht are up there with darood hawiye and isaaq in terms of political influence, financial strength, geographical land size, and even outnumber isaaq's population ...
keep the isaaqs in check with border row, whilst the hawiye are kept in line through TFG and during all of this we exploring our natural resources and building cities from deserts...

let alone sub-clans not even clans in there own right in the entire somali peninsula can be considered anywhere near majeerteen.
MJ's the biggest game changer in somali affairs...
come i dare you..challenge this theory..
........
with oil, we would most likely be the biggest game changers in the horn if not beyond

GeoSeven · Post by **GeoSeven** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:46 am

Puntland is the only proper federal state right now which is why we hear so much about it. Galmudug doesn not have control of all its territory so its not a 100% yet. After August, there will be proper functioning federal states in the South. The federal state arena will be crowded by at least another 5 or so states. Galmudug, Maybe Somaliland, probably a Hiran State, Raxanwein State, Abgaal State and Jubaland or Azania. All of these states also have resources...the whole country has resources sxb. Theres oil in other areas besides Puntland. Also, the Nugaal block is the area where most of the oil is and its mostly in Khatuumo I think. I dont want to burst your bubble but dont get ahead of yourself. By the way...Puntland is made up of lots of clans, Majeerteen is the majority in Puntland but without Leelkase, Dashiishe, Warsangeli and all those other clans Puntland wouldnt be half the way it is. You MJs have to start giving credit to the other Puntland clans. What would happen today if Leelkase, Dashiishe, Warsangali and the other Puntland clans decided to break away? There would be no Puntland, so give the other Puntland clans credit for their part in Puntlands progress sxb and stop being greedy.

whitehartlane · Post by **whitehartlane** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:06 am

Somalifanatic wrote:Puntland is the only proper federal state right now which is why we hear so much about it. Galmudug doesn not have control of all its territory so its not a 100% yet. After August, there will be proper functioning federal states in the South. The federal state arena will be crowded by at least another 5 or so states. Galmudug, Maybe Somaliland, probably a Hiran State, Raxanwein State, Abgaal State and Jubaland or Azania. All of these states also have resources...the whole country has resources sxb. Theres oil in other areas besides Puntland. Also, the Nugaal block is the area where most of the oil is and its mostly in Khatuumo I think. I dont want to burst your bubble but dont get ahead of yourself. By the way...Puntland is made up of lots of clans, Majeerteen is the majority in Puntland but without Leelkase, Dashiishe, Warsangeli and all those other clans Puntland wouldnt be half the way it is. You MJs have to start giving credit to the other Puntland clans. What would happen today if Leelkase, Dashiishe, Warsangali and the other Puntland clans decided to break away? There would be no Puntland, so give the other Puntland clans credit for their part in Puntlands progress sxb and stop being greedy.

excuse me but did i mention puntland and majeerteen in the same line...
cant one talk about england without mentioning britian or united kingdom
i am just stating the simple fact that majeerteen can be considered a qabiil in terms of power, money land size and population............

do u agree? yes or no

GeoSeven · Post by **GeoSeven** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:20 am

But the state of Puntland is what MJ use to get anything..at least in the Somali political field. As for your question, MJ is a large and influential subclan but it is far from being close to any clan in terms of land size. wealth and influence. The only subclan that probably qualifies to be a clan on its own is Ogaden....not sure about their wealth though.

whitehartlane · Post by **whitehartlane** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:00 am

Somalifanatic wrote:But the state of Puntland is what MJ use to get anything..at least in the Somali political field. As for your question, MJ is a large and influential subclan but it is far from being close to any clan in terms of land size. wealth and influence. The only subclan that probably qualifies to be a clan on its own is Ogaden....not sure about their wealth though.

saaxib, majeerteen use puntland, somalia's tfg or whatever needed to reach that goal.....mj is not just large and influential its THE LARGEST and THE MOST INFLUENTIAL SUBclan...agree or would u like to debate that too?

and no my friend they are very close if they havent already surpassed them, to actual clans such as isaaq and D&M in terms of weallth land size and population PLUS influence amongst the somalis...and yes our brethren the OG's are very blessed however, the size of there land is compromised due to lack of any ports which majeerteen has in abundance... we have more sea than some major nations in the world... when u say the horn of africa you are talking about majeerteen sxb..

give credit where its due,

tightrope · Post by **tightrope** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:21 pm

Somalifanatic wrote:Puntland is the only proper federal state right now which is why we hear so much about it. Galmudug doesn not have control of all its territory so its not a 100% yet. After August, there will be proper functioning federal states in the South. The federal state arena will be crowded by at least another 5 or so states. Galmudug, Maybe Somaliland, probably a Hiran State, Raxanwein State, Abgaal State and Jubaland or Azania. All of these states also have resources...the whole country has resources sxb. Theres oil in other areas besides Puntland. Also, the Nugaal block is the area where most of the oil is and its mostly in Khatuumo I think. I dont want to burst your bubble but dont get ahead of yourself. By the way...Puntland is made up of lots of clans, Majeerteen is the majority in Puntland but without Leelkase, Dashiishe, Warsangeli and all those other clans Puntland wouldnt be half the way it is. You MJs have to start giving credit to the other Puntland clans. What would happen today if Leelkase, Dashiishe, Warsangali and the other Puntland clans decided to break away? There would be no Puntland, so give the other Puntland clans credit for their part in Puntlands progress sxb and stop being greedy.

FUCTIONING STATES? THESE SO-CALLED STATES ARE OCCUPIED BY AL-SHABAB, AMISOM, ETHIOPIA, KENYAN TROOPS.
SO WHAT IF MOST OF THE OIL IS IN SOOL? EASTERN SOOL IS PUNTLAND TERRITORY.

GeoSeven · Post by **GeoSeven** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:43 pm

Whitehartlane ok man

tightrope wrote:
Somalifanatic wrote:Puntland is the only proper federal state right now which is why we hear so much about it. Galmudug doesn not have control of all its territory so its not a 100% yet. After August, there will be proper functioning federal states in the South. The federal state arena will be crowded by at least another 5 or so states. Galmudug, Maybe Somaliland, probably a Hiran State, Raxanwein State, Abgaal State and Jubaland or Azania. All of these states also have resources...the whole country has resources sxb. Theres oil in other areas besides Puntland. Also, the Nugaal block is the area where most of the oil is and its mostly in Khatuumo I think. I dont want to burst your bubble but dont get ahead of yourself. By the way...Puntland is made up of lots of clans, Majeerteen is the majority in Puntland but without Leelkase, Dashiishe, Warsangeli and all those other clans Puntland wouldnt be half the way it is. You MJs have to start giving credit to the other Puntland clans. What would happen today if Leelkase, Dashiishe, Warsangali and the other Puntland clans decided to break away? There would be no Puntland, so give the other Puntland clans credit for their part in Puntlands progress sxb and stop being greedy.
FUCTIONING STATES? THESE SO-CALLED STATES ARE OCCUPIED BY AL-SHABAB, AMISOM, ETHIOPIA, KENYAN TROOPS.
SO WHAT IF MOST OF THE OIL IS IN SOOL? EASTERN SOOL IS PUNTLAND TERRITORY.

Sool is part of Puntland? Sxb last I checked Laascanood was under Somaliland and Taleex and other areas of Sool were pro Khatumo and from the looks of Dhulbahante, it aint like they gonna let any Puntlander come drilling in their territory sometime in the next century. Be realistic guy

sav12600 · Post by **sav12600** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:11 pm

Somalifanatic wrote:

Sool is part of Puntland? Sxb last I checked Laascanood was under Somaliland and Taleex and other areas of Sool were pro Khatumo and from the looks of Dhulbahante, it aint like they gonna let any Puntlander come drilling in their territory sometime in the next century. Be realistic guy

actually 95% of the nuugal block is in the nuugaal region.

GeoSeven · Post by **GeoSeven** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:38 pm

sav12600 wrote:
Somalifanatic wrote:

Sool is part of Puntland? Sxb last I checked Laascanood was under Somaliland and Taleex and other areas of Sool were pro Khatumo and from the looks of Dhulbahante, it aint like they gonna let any Puntlander come drilling in their territory sometime in the next century. Be realistic guy
actually 95% of the nuugal block is in the nuugaal region.

Actually its more like the other way around. I also watched a video of the range resource ceo yesterday and he said that the majority of the Nugaal well is in sool but they will drill whatever is in Puntland. He also stated that Nugaal well is the one with the majority of oil. It took me by surprise because I was thinking the whole time that the Dharoor well has more oil but when I heard the Nugaal well has the majority of oil and its in Sool I thought why are Puntland and Mj celebrating more than others, shouldnt it be Dhulbahante celebrating the most out of Harti since the majority of oil is in their well

whitehartlane · Post by **whitehartlane** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:08 am

Somalifanatic wrote:
sav12600 wrote:
Somalifanatic wrote:

Sool is part of Puntland? Sxb last I checked Laascanood was under Somaliland and Taleex and other areas of Sool were pro Khatumo and from the looks of Dhulbahante, it aint like they gonna let any Puntlander come drilling in their territory sometime in the next century. Be realistic guy
actually 95% of the nuugal block is in the nuugaal region.

Actually its more like the other way around. I also watched a video of the range resource ceo yesterday and he said that the majority of the Nugaal well is in sool but they will drill whatever is in Puntland. He also stated that Nugaal well is the one with the majority of oil. It took me by surprise because I was thinking the whole time that the Dharoor well has more oil but when I heard the Nugaal well has the majority of oil and its in Sool I thought why are Puntland and Mj celebrating more than others, shouldnt it be Dhulbahante celebrating the most out of Harti since the majority of oil is in their well

its true according to some research done in the 80's sool has the most oil, however saaxib that highlighted map doesnt show the full might of the nugaal block or the full dharoor map... see the nugaal block in somalia starts from maydh coast or ceerigaabo coast where as the dharoor oil valley starts somewhere in laas qoray coast and its curved towards north eastern bari. in another words, potential is not short in either... and btw MJ does not celebrate the found oil or oil in general, but simple we celebrate the achievement in doing so, the prospect of becoming an engineered nation an oil producing nation a tomorrows nation in a nation thats not really a nation...proves my point again.... as mj's we are unique in our region,..its a simple fact that some people prosper more than others..... and dont watch that abti, as much as i support the sultans foreign policy, madaxweyne faroole has let all mj's down in regards of the dhulbahante case{some might disagree, but every bodies opinion} in the same way their leaders have disappointed them... dhulbahante will celebrate one day, and when it comes to tht day, i'll celebrate with them as in puntland or as in khaatumo...i hope for khaatumo so i can have 2 flags 2 armies and 2 success stories from 2 lands that i claim rightfully as my brothers and their smile gives birth to my laughter

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