Post-transitional parliamentary structure

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Post-transitional parliamentary structure

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Below I have posted the link of the agreed upon document that outlaws 4,5. At the end of the day remember Somalia exist only because of this legal document, and only by its grace did HSM became president of the federal government of Somalia.

So we either follow the constitution fully or we don't it's that simple, there is no cherry picking on signed legal documents. Hence the signatures!!!!!!

for those of you in doubt ,please read it with your own eyes.

And ofcourse comment you conclusion!!!


http://unpos.unmissions.org/LinkClick.a ... uage=en-US
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incognito1, well done.

These cats are so well known for their back-tracking the agreement was written in crystal clear language.

ii. The 4.5 formula shall never become the basis for power sharing in any future political dispensation after the above mentioned term concludes. :mrgreen:

iii. The New Federal Constitution shall not include any provisions using the 4.5 formula and shall not be amended to abrogate this stipulation in any manner. ;)

iv. The New federal parliament that comes into being in June 2012 shall not amend or enact any law or implement any policy that takes into account or attempts to reinstate the 4.5 power sharing formula. :ugeek:

v. After the first term, the parliament will be elected through universal polling of one person one vote. :idea:

vi. In case the prevailing situation does not allow for universal polling, the parliament will be selected on the basis of constituencies. :P

Signatories:
President of the Transitional Federal Government: Sheikh Sharif Shekh Ahmed.
Speaker of the Transitional Federal parliament: Sharif Hassan Sheikh Aden.
Prime Minister of Transitional Federal Government: Dr. Abdiweli Mohamed Ali
Puntland President: Dr. Abdirahman Sheikh Mohamed Mohamud
President of Galmudug: Mohamed Ahmed Aalim
Ahlu-Sunna Wal Jamaaca Representative: Sheikh Mohamed Mohamud Yusuf
Deputy Special Representative, Secretary General of the UN for Somalia: Christian Manahl
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The Binding Document, even the UN signed it.
http://unpos.unmissions.org/LinkClick.a ... uage=en-US


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Nice work knet for quoting it, I was too lazy to do it myself. :clap:


From now on we have a signed document as a reference, to settle future 4,5 arguments.

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incognito1 wrote:Nice work knet for quoting it, I was too lazy to do it myself. :clap:

From now on we have a signed document as a reference, to settle future 4,5 arguments.

:myman: :MJ:
:up:

Not only do we have the Southwest State, Plus USC Nation in Check with that Document, but also U.N themselves as we have their signature on that document.

If U.N don't get their boys in line we shall let the International Courts handle this matter, and have the 20,000 Adoons troops in Ugandishu enforce it. 8-)

End of story.

His Factual Expression say it all.
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knet wrote:
incognito1 wrote:Nice work knet for quoting it, I was too lazy to do it myself.

From now on we have a signed document as a reference, to settle future 4,5 arguments.

:myman: :MJ:
:up:

Not only do we have the Southwest State, Plus USC Nation in Check with that Document, but also U.N themselves as we have their signature on that document.

If U.N don't get their boys in line we shall let the International Courts handle this matter, and have the 20,000 Adoons troops in Ugandishu enforce it. 8-)

End of story.

His Factual Expression say it all.
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These British pricks think their dealing with their jareer subsurvients in Africa, little do they know of our dignity.

I guess he got the message when that picture was taken, I could image him thinking " phuck me I was told this was a easy job. In very posh English ofcourse :lol:
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Maxaad dhihi doontaan markii loophole laga soo helo documentigiinan :lol: :lol:
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AirBitaale wrote:Maxaad dhihi doontaan markii loophole laga soo helo documentigiinan :lol: :lol:

I copied the document from the un, and not a Somali website. In other words it's the original signed document, it's the Somali constitution with a un signature.

But what do you mean with loophole ????
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I know it is the signed document.

You are using the document to support the district based election model, but I want know what you will be saying when a member finds a loophole around the document to support the alternative methods against the district based election model, or at least to counter it. :lol:
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AirBitaale wrote:I know it is the signed document.

You are using the document to support the district based election model, but I want know what you will be saying when a member finds a loophole around the document to support the alternative methods against the district based election model, or at least to counter it. :lol:

They have already found some what of a loophole, it's called greed and no one knows this better than damuljadiid.

I mean how do you think the 4,5 system came back with such strength, when it's illegal in the constitution.

The Somali leaders of today are mostly working on their retirements, rather than the countries future.

So whatever idea pays the most wins, and so far the constitution has paid $00,00 dollars. :lol:

The prime minister who is supposedly from puntland is bought and paid for, even he is preaching the 4,5.


But whatever the case I am pro constitution, and if we can't follow it lets just go our separate ways, and give Somaliland the independence it's been crying for.
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I am for the district based elections, but what can I do when the "districts" were not fairly distributed. If there was a time to re-adjust them, I am sure a lot of people would support it.

Let me ask you this: how it is fair when Boosaaso (Bari) with population of 164,900 and Bandarbayla (Bari) with population of 14,400, get the same representation?
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AirBitaale wrote:I am for the district based elections, but what can I do when the "districts" were not fairly distributed. If there was a time to re-adjust them, I am sure a lot of people would support it.

Let me ask you this: how it is fair when Boosaaso (Bari) with population of 164,900 and Bandarbayla (Bari) with population of 14,400, get the same representation?

I don't believe the distribution of districts is fair today, but if we are sincere about our nation we can fix it.

I believe in justice and fairness, just because am anti 4,5 doesn't mean am pro injustice.


I don't believe in tribal affiliations I believe in a free, vibrant and beautiful Somalia. Where we live by the rule of law, where the doctors, the teachers, the policemen are all Somalis etc...... Is that too much to ask for.

To have a place to call home :sadcam:

Wallahi I want nothing more than to see the death of isaaq ,darood and Hawiye gang ideologies,
We are one people if we stop praying to our qabiils, we can be the best country in Africa.

And that's all I want, nothing more nothing less!!!!
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incognito1 wrote:
AirBitaale wrote:I am for the district based elections, but what can I do when the "districts" were not fairly distributed. If there was a time to re-adjust them, I am sure a lot of people would support it.

Let me ask you this: how it is fair when Boosaaso (Bari) with population of 164,900 and Bandarbayla (Bari) with population of 14,400, get the same representation?

I don't believe the distribution of districts is fair today, but if we are sincere about our nation we can fix it.

I believe in justice and fairness, just because am anti 4,5 doesn't mean am pro injustice.


I don't believe in tribal affiliations I believe in a free, vibrant and beautiful Somalia. Where we live by the rule of law, where the doctors, the teachers, the policemen are all Somalis etc...... Is that too much to ask for.

To have a place to call home :sadcam:

Wallahi I want nothing more than to see the death of isaaq ,darood and Hawiye gang ideologies,
We are one people if we stop praying to our qabiils, we can be the best country in Africa.

And that's all I want, nothing more nothing less!!!!
Don't we all want that. We just differ the path to take.

Anyway, we can't have a properly allocated district elections as that would require population census and time. And equally allocated district election is not only catastrophic but also injustice!
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