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Ogadeen Come In

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby hanqadh » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:48 am

AW your loosing it mate, conversing with this TIGRE AGAME.

I dont understand why your pointing fingure's mate perhaps you havnt seen Hawiyedom who are Shariif's biggest Opposition.
Most of my region has no connection to the developments in Somalia...ONLF has no connection to Hasan turki, they are infact enemies.
Shabab was chased out of my region even under occupation we didnt budge for them, here you cry at a few Ogaden men who protected you from xabash occupation to say the least and are now just like any other group furthering their political agenda, they however have no connection to Ogaden as a clan nor do their action's speak for them.
20 years of mayhem AW, you have no legitimacy to talk about anyone else.

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby Hyperactive » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:07 am

murax opened this topic to discuss in civilized way but dadki adonka ugu oqdada badna ba isugu yimid.

inshallah we will be free very soon.

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby The Nomad » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:13 am

A heavily moderated discussion on Ogaden restricted to one thread would be very fruitful, I believe.

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby Voltage » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:11 pm

An honest question for Ogaden,

What do you think about the latest TPLF published figures showing that in the last two quarters of 2006 and the first of 2007, the GoE spent more on the Ogaden region than even Tigray?
This is actually true and I have said so here before on this forum. My brother who was there over the summer said Zenewi gives more special privileges and funding to the Ogaden then most other places in Ethiopia (although he has been building Mekelle for two decades now) but this rapid increase in trying to win the "hearts and minds" only has to do with one thing and that is fear. It started with the vocal CUD and Amhara opposition when Zenewi was brought back down to earth and he was reminded who the number one enemy of the Woyane regime is (Amhara) and everybody knows when he rode into Addis Ababa, the ONLF rode in with him. The only reason they seperated was when he refused to follow through with the agreed upon "self-determination for every region" plan. Now the Amhara are slowly getting the cajones back, he wants to offset this by pandering to the Ogaden so he would not have to concentrate as much military resources as there.

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby Murax » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:29 pm

I hope Galia's okay :shock: :lol:


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As a "Warsangeli" Why are You so passionate about what happens in Ogadenia? lol


Whats been collected by the Ogadeen members so far:

There was a time for negotiations in the '90s, and now that time is long gone and it will be a fight till the end, and the struggle is 100% abot seperation now.


Voltage,

My Uncles are Reer Shilaabo, and they've told Me theres a lot of attention being paid there by the Meles regime. This is probably part of that ploy.


As far as Berbera port, Ethiopia cannot and rarely use it as the road from Berbera to Addis Ababa is not safe, and ONLF ambush all the time. Instead they use, Djibouti as that area is more safe.


A/Wahab,

What the heck do Hawiye have to do with Galbeed ma waalatay, lol.

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby GENERAL_SNM » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:39 pm

Nomad,

Well put. I used to sympathize with the OG cause but no longer. I am in shock at their pathetic lot. Look at the deportations of the OG from Puntland. You would think that the OGs would seek revenge yet they do nothing. Somaliland deports OGs and they burn hundreds of Issaq trucks. You have the curious case of Bashir Makhtal, a OG sold off to Ethiopia inside Garissa, an OG city. Response nothing. 90% of the snitches in the Kenyan security forces are OGs. You would think that they would have made moves against their Darood enemies, yet nothing.
The ONLF is a tribal group nothing more, it exist to further a single qabils interest in the Somali region of Ethiopia. The aim is for this qabil to monopolize power in that region, because it believes that the current regime can be toppled. The method they use are despicable and the same is the Ethiopian regime. They provoke the Ethiopians knowing full well the reaction will be collective punishment for anybody Ogden. This atrocity is then used world wide to gain sympathy for the course and anybody donating will assume that its going towards people who are truly being punished by a greater force.
The Ethiopians use something similar. What they do is insure that any organization wishing to donate any aid has to agree that the aid is given out by the Ethiopian regime itself and they provide this relief aid to groups who are
sympathetic to them. Those who are not OG's are not provided with anything and then paraded on western TV's to get more aid, with some of it spent on weapons to combat the ONLF and others..

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:36 pm

Murax,

What do Darood have to do with it ?

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby Murax » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:55 pm

Murax,

What do Darood have to do with it ?

Ogadeen is the biggest group there,

Then Lelkasse, Geri koombe, Majerteen, Marexaan all have deegano there lama guuran ah.

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby Xamud. » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:07 pm

^^^^^^
You forgot the Dhullos :lol:

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:18 pm

Murax,

We got Xawadle, Degodie, Ajuuraan, Murusade, Sheikhaal, Murule, Badicaade, Galjeceel to name a few.

Sacad live there too having established the vital commerce of the Mustaxil, Feerfeer, Qabridahare :up:



Btw, Ogaden are disputed Darood.

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby Xamud. » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:46 pm

^^^^^
The nerves of this guy :shock: ...Ogadens are Darood meeshay Darood ka galan waa la yaqaan, all of the sub clans you mentioned are not even real Hawiye waa wada Kamashle Hawiye with the exception of Baadicadde.

Where In Ethiopia do Sacad live? and where do Baadicadde live? Qabridahar is 100% Reer Abdille-Maxamud Subeyr-Ogaden :lol: :lol:

Leelkase,Majerteen,Marexaan,Geri,Dhullos,Abaasguul,Ogaden,Bartire all have their own degaans in Ethiopia, and Wardheer is the meeting point :up:

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby Murax » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:34 pm

looool@ajuraan, deegodiye, murule. All those groups were pushed by Marexaan from Gedo into North Eastern Kenya, nowhere near Ogadenia.


Sheikhaal Yes, but they are not Hawiye they are "Marti Xiraab" or guest of Xiraab. They taught You Guys the Religion.

Baadicade, Never heard about them anywhere near Galbeed. Either way, sxb meesha Has everything to do with Darood.

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby grandpakhalif » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:08 pm

kkk, why do hawiyes so quick to claim the minority clans

caqli hutu :clap:

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby hanqadh » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:16 pm

An honest question for Ogaden,

What do you think about the latest TPLF published figures showing that in the last two quarters of 2006 and the first of 2007, the GoE spent more on the Ogaden region than even Tigray?
This is actually true and I have said so here before on this forum. My brother who was there over the summer said Zenewi gives more special privileges and funding to the Ogaden then most other places in Ethiopia (although he has been building Mekelle for two decades now) but this rapid increase in trying to win the "hearts and minds" only has to do with one thing and that is fear. It started with the vocal CUD and Amhara opposition when Zenewi was brought back down to earth and he was reminded who the number one enemy of the Woyane regime is (Amhara) and everybody knows when he rode into Addis Ababa, the ONLF rode in with him. The only reason they seperated was when he refused to follow through with the agreed upon "self-determination for every region" plan. Now the Amhara are slowly getting the cajones back, he wants to offset this by pandering to the Ogaden so he would not have to concentrate as much military resources as there.

This is laughable really, I would like to know where this money went...its well known that the international community has discovered the unfolding atrocities of his regime, it would be wise to to release those purpoted figure's.

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Re: Ogadeen Come In

Postby The Nomad » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:35 am

An honest question for Ogaden,

What do you think about the latest TPLF published figures showing that in the last two quarters of 2006 and the first of 2007, the GoE spent more on the Ogaden region than even Tigray?
This is actually true and I have said so here before on this forum. My brother who was there over the summer said Zenewi gives more special privileges and funding to the Ogaden then most other places in Ethiopia (although he has been building Mekelle for two decades now) but this rapid increase in trying to win the "hearts and minds" only has to do with one thing and that is fear. It started with the vocal CUD and Amhara opposition when Zenewi was brought back down to earth and he was reminded who the number one enemy of the Woyane regime is (Amhara) and everybody knows when he rode into Addis Ababa, the ONLF rode in with him. The only reason they seperated was when he refused to follow through with the agreed upon "self-determination for every region" plan. Now the Amhara are slowly getting the cajones back, he wants to offset this by pandering to the Ogaden so he would not have to concentrate as much military resources as there.
WTF? :lol:

How does this make sense when I explicitly stated in the second paragraph of that post (the bit you never quoted), that development of the Ogaden region was given high priority until they attacked ex-pat workers and civilians malevolently? Surely that's the opposite of pandering?

Your brothers anecdotes are false assuming you're referring to this summer, the TPLF has been very vocal about their lack of interest in Ogaden until all factions hostile to the GoE lay down arms.

You don't know what you're talking about, Amhara are by far the least disenfranchised, next to Tigray themselves. 'Number one enemy' kulaha :lol:

There wasn't a single honest statement in that wall of text, wallahi.

Murax,

Waa dadkayga, regardless of what's going on. It's natural instinct to show an interest.


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