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Ceelwaaq
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:02 pm
by snoop12
this was last year during the drought.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2 ... ds-drought
is that how swahili sounds like
Re: Ceelwaaq
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:20 pm
by BaasAbuur
I am surprised they speak Swahili in Ceel Qaaloow.
Re: Ceelwaaq
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:11 pm
by gedo_gurl
That wasnt Swahili...at first I thought it might be Arabic...but on second thoughts its most likely the NFD 'Garre' peoples language.
Re: Ceelwaaq
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:09 pm
by snoop12
i see, so Garre are not Somali but mainly Muslim ?
Re: Ceelwaaq
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:15 pm
by gedo_gurl
They are related to Somalis, but they deny it, they consider themselves Garre-Muslim- Kenyan.
Re: Ceelwaaq
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:00 pm
by Advo
They are related to Somalis, but they deny it, they consider themselves Garre-Muslim- Kenyan.
They're confused, the ones I know consider themselves somali, the rest say they're either Oromo or Their own thing.
Re: Ceelwaaq
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:11 am
by gedo_gurl
They are related to Somalis, but they deny it, they consider themselves Garre-Muslim- Kenyan.
They're confused, the ones I know consider themselves somali, the rest say they're either Oromo or Their own thing.
Good point. Do you know which language group af Garre comes under? is it another Somali dialect? Or is it merely another cushitic language?
Re: Ceelwaaq
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:46 pm
by Advo
It's very close to afaan oromo, infact they can understand one another.
Re: Ceelwaaq
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:56 pm
by gedo_gurl
No way! Thats so cool! The ones I met, kept telling me they were 'Garre Weyne' and when I was like 'wtf' and stupidly tried slotting them into a category, they would understandably get upset and just say 'well i guess im a kenyan because of my ID card' lol My professor also kept telling me about a group of Oromo who live the around Lamu Archipelago, but I kept thinking he was pronouncing some next groups name wrong. Anywhos Advo, cheers for the 'mation.
Re: Ceelwaaq
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:11 am
by Advo
Yhhh the younger cats get quite upset if u call them Oromo but I believe they're a branch of somalis who lived with oromos for a long time and adopted their form of the language, they live heavily in NFD kenya and usually clash with muraale and other small clans under the protection of Mareexaan. Remember the 2005 war they launched on gedo and ended up losing bad?
Re: Ceelwaaq
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:47 pm
by Murax
Ceelwaaq, home to My Reer Ayeeyo
Celidheere kingdom from Ceelwaaq to Beled Xaawo!
Re: Ceelwaaq
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:36 pm
by Mad May
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Re: Ceelwaaq
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:20 pm
by Voltage
What a desolate place. That's where all of my previous perceptions about what it is to be a Somali living in the Horn of Africa changed. It is the place that matured me politically.
Re: Ceelwaaq
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:22 pm
by Voltage
I went to Africa sxb and I may not have crossed the border but I sure went close to it and saw what the lands we are from would look like and what feel they might have and I came back appreciating any peace and security people can have in such remote backward lands. I mean when I look back at times I might have bombard this forum with sick topics like "Garre has been annihilated" or "hebel has been crushed" I get more disgusted than anything else that could possibly make me feel sick and disgusted. Isn't the Garre man in the same predicament as the Marehan man, made by his environment and looking out for the same security and amni and protection the Marehan is seeking?
Re: Ceelwaaq
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:02 am
by snoop12
Voltage didnt you feel like you wanted to help ? i mean just watching that video made me want to help these people more and also Somalis in general.
and as i get more hang of time management i will eventually come to a position where i can actually help.
i dont see where politics come in here? i think they are the last people to worry about politics, especially when it does not effect them remotely. there is a problem but i believe its much more to do with social uncertainty or hostility in their region, obviously this is fuelled by the extreme poverty caused by the droughts.
qabiil/qabyaalad is a phase we all have to go through, hopefully without getting stuck in it. but at the end of the day it really all comes down to what we do and not so much what we might have said/wrote.