Daraawiish and the Kacaan Revisionsim.

[The`Republic]

Xplaya, you never have the temperament nor the faculties to ever hold a legitimate scholarly discussion. I am not Jama Qalib, I merely relayed what was in his book. This is one of the most famous and widely admired Isaaqs ever alive right now and he even served as a mole for the SNM in the Siad Barre government.

He is the one who wrote (having suffered his father to an attack by them) that the Dervishes had justification for attacking their nomadic settlement because his clan was on the side of the colonists and working for them.

Source: Somalia the Cost of Dictator by Jama Mohamed Qalib

p.s. Lol @ the emotional basketcase who showed up. Take it up with your Garxajis elder.

[Coldoon]

X.Playa and Siciid ilma adeerayaal dont take this Goldoon guy seriously, I stopped doing that the moment he claimed that one third of the Isaaq has Dhulbahante reer abti. Gadhweyntaa iyo dhawr jilib Habar Jeclo ah uun moyaane thats circa 5%.

That's not from my own sources. I read somewhere, can't remember where that most Dhulbahante marriages are within Dhulbahante, secondly with Isaaq, thirdly with Ogadeen and Majeerteen and fourthly with Marehan and Hawiye. You can search and if I'm wrong correct me, simple as that. Perhaps, the 1/3 was a bit exaggerative.

[Siciid85]

Boon Boy, there is people who personally know Jama Qalib in this forum and are related to. Waxbana nogama sheegaysiid, his not 92 years old, so it is not possible for his "father"
to be killed by a movement that died in 1921-1920, wounded maybe. Does this guy look 92 to you. The peanut brains of Daroods is amazing at times. If needed his actual
"date of birth" will be posted in here. Furthermore the only time Cidagale and the Dervishes seen each other was between somewhere in 1900, so how the hell is it possible since Jama Qalib is neither 92 nor 112. So don't embarrass yourself.

[X.Playa]

no in fact the first and the last time Ciidagale and Dervish have met was 1899-1900 during the raid of Dayax Weerar lool

[Siciid85]

Yh that was the incident i was referring to. Which would mean the local boons with the chimpanzee brains think Jama Qalib is 112 lool. Wa daad walan daadkan, waxkasta
way iska amiinaayan.

[X.Playa]

well these are Daarood who their patriarch died in 1450's claim some 37 generation since lool some special people daarood are , i guess they breed like goats ever 1 years tawice.

[Somalistan]

daroodkii waa lagu jaasay. this is going down as the single most devastating thread in somalinet history.

[The`Republic]

What an emotional basket case. To be honest with you kind of disappointed with Xkeyse. Xkeyse you might be desperate with this but ypu are not irrational. If you actually care about "Garxajis" get this guy to log of Somalinet for a while. It's kind of sad when the whole forum has to witness someone's psychological decline.

Also Xkeyse I don't know why you are responding to me about that? I didn't write the book and I am not Qalib, I am a medium sourcing a book's content.

There are two relevant responses for you; 1.) I am lying about public easily accessible information and Qalib did not write that or 2.) Qalib did write that but is lying himself.

I am not sure where I am come in as justitication for what someone else wrote.

Never seen such desperate people in my life.

p.s I don't get paid to observe the developmentally challeneged emotional rants of people so take a hike you big fcking loser. Yes, you Tourette's child Siciid.

[The`Republic]

Great.

[The`Republic]

Jeez it finally clicked. The developmentally challenged Tourett's child hates the idea of someone he admires and is Garxajis like him sayings that despite the fact he actually did say that and is mad at me for bringing that to his attention.

What a fcking twisted passive-aggressive shit type of developmentally challenged responsibility displacement
What a loon, dude if ypu want advice go take a hike somewhere and smell the fresh air.

[Siciid85]

Someone i admire? don't assume too much Afweyne idolizer. All i am saying is your likes assume too much and don't have the capability to use their chimpanzee alike brains,
take your own advise and stop sticking your nose in every thread like it is Afweyne's carcass. Sheeko naageed ayaaba la timi, hebel ba Garxajis ah, hebel oo Garxajis ah ba
sidaas yidhi. Naa hoy Gedodada ku ekow.

[The`Republic]

Good Grief.

[ZubeirAwal]

In all honesty -, the isaaqs are today and were the wealthiest of all clans, they captured lands west of maydh and soon benifited from the trade with arabia and the world, our lands and springs some time ago was in the hands of the yibir, gadabursi and the darods, only to be taken with a swift hand by the isaaq, and yet today we are the only self-sufficient somali state , cutting itself from the world and still is able to govern themselves without the help of the whites and the bantus whom you wish to run to, would you seriously prefer amisom troops walking in and out of las anod and buhodle then a somali government run in hargeisa, don't let hate take you that far, we are the quraysh of the north and we will do well to look after your people, for your leaders do nothing but run back and forth like headless chickens.


And the darwish was not a pan-somali movement, it was pan-islam, something many of you are against,t he sayyid was the al-shabab of that era, enforcing strict rules on people and he wanted to rule all of somali lands with a swift strong tyranny-like rule, he was not to wear a suit and a tie as you might imagine, he was a jihadi, and thats one thing you should remember.

So you will be a hypocrite if you go against al-shabab and support the sayyid, because if the sayyid were alive today he would root for them whilst your rooting for the turks and the americans and the bantu gaalos to liberate your lands, i'll tell you something, you won't feel real freedom until you liberate yourselves.

[Khalid Ali]

What a topic just amazing guys lets not ruin this educational topic into clan insults and what not. If udun and original dervish got angry because their lies are being exposed every single page in this topic lets not lower our selves to their level. This topic is purely to debate and to discuss facts not emotions like Udun who is quoting him self and placing laughing gifs as if that is going to make a point

A quick summary of what was discussed lets highlight it

We are still searching ismaciil mire in the historical books of any kind may it be British Dutch French Arab
Historical images being placed out of their text book and distorted in a certain way to attack other qabills this was corrected and sourced perfectly
Dervish make up and its leadership this an indisputable fact.
The best intelligence agents for the English Colonialists this also something our old friend aw jamac forgot to mention
its also ironic that Khatumo websites used in their coat of arms,, pictures of the Hogoogane tribal forces led by Haji muse farah igare and Haji waraabe bulaale. And they tried to display them as the dervishes if that's not confusion i don't know what is.

i also want to say lets not laugh at the people who were destroyed by the dervishes its against humanity they fled to berbera these people they had nothing their camels were taking their water wells were taken they were looted their villages were plundered. It was either starve to death or sell you're daughters they prefer to live now they were not selling their daughters to foreigners but to their fellow countrymen in Somaliland.

[Rightwing]

Khalid
Ma aragtaa sida threadkii loo kharibay?


Guys I have deleted some off topic posts and will seek more off topic posts. This thread is exclusively designed deep research to discover of new knowledge of our history. Promoting dumar la caayo of any type will be deleted.


Cheers
rw