Poll on Union

[melo]

The man who claimed half Shia, quarter Suufi, and other quarter Salafi si calling another gentelman Murtad. Who put you in a position to judge others?

I think Hutu has repented from his support for the grave worshipping sufi mushriks (which are dying out in Somalia alxamdulillah), and his almost acceptance of the great culemaa. One who accepts the the two sheikhs, and accepts the quran as being complete, and that the sunnah is sound, is accepted inshallah.

[ciyaal_warta]

Who thinks this guy is murtad, against islam(the ummah, the law etc) while choosing the side of christians and jews.
I just finished study on his posts. There are some shocking/disturbing statements he made against the shariicah.

as far as i know Union is a unionist secularist somali...and i respect that i cant say he is not muslim coz that is not my job to judge..Only Allah knows whos muslim and whos not..stop judging the guy

[melo]

Who thinks this guy is murtad, against islam(the ummah, the law etc) while choosing the side of christians and jews.
I just finished study on his posts. There are some shocking/disturbing statements he made against the shariicah.

as far as i know Union is a unionist secularist somali...and i respect that i cant say he is not muslim coz that is not my job to judge..Only Allah knows whos muslim and whos not..stop judging the guy

Do you know of the ridda wars? Do you know of the men Cali ra burnt for shirk? Do you know what traditional manuals of fiqh say on Takfir?

Please, don't talk about things that you don't know anything about. This is destructive.

When someone rejects things known by neccesity by the diin, then his kufr is clearer than the Sun. So if one believes you can drink alcohol and its xalaal, and it is explained to him, and he still rejects that its xaaraan, then this person is not Muslim.

How can one a muslim, when he rejects what Allah swt and his messenger said?

Inshallah, watch a lecture by any of the somali wadaads you respect.

[Kukri]

melo

dadka aad khasbeysoo jooji sxb.

wadaad laba afleeya inaad tahay afkaaga laga haya ee caadi iska dhig.

[melo]

melo

dadka aad khasbeysoo jooji sxb.

wadaad laba afleeya inaad tahay afkaaga laga haya ee caadi iska dhig.

If this is about Abgaal.. i stand by comment. I was attacking their clan leadership. If one wants to get at me, then wallahi i don't care. I know for myself, that i don't critique people because of their qabiils, but rather their actions.

Abgaal need a revolution. Their leadership is terrible.

[Kukri]

If this is about Abgaal.. i stand by comment. I was attacking their clan leadership. If one wants to get at me, then wallahi i don't care. I know for myself, that i don't critique people because of their qabiils, but rather their actions.

Abgaal need a revolution. Their leadership is terrible.

bal dey weli waad ku adkaysanaysaa

wadaad wax maqla la arki jaray ee adiga dhagi bah kuuma daloosho

sxb reer hebel baan necebay iyo wacdigeyga ha la dhageystoo kala jooji

[melo]

If this is about Abgaal.. i stand by comment. I was attacking their clan leadership. If one wants to get at me, then wallahi i don't care. I know for myself, that i don't critique people because of their qabiils, but rather their actions.

Abgaal need a revolution. Their leadership is terrible.

bal dey weli waad ku adkaysanaysaa

wadaad wax maqla la arki jaray ee adiga dhagi bah kuuma daloosho

sxb reer hebel baan necebay iyo wacdigeyga ha la dhageystoo kala jooji

Like i said, i dont care what you say on this matter. I can speak on clan leadership i want. I dont hate on Qabiil leadership because i believe they have innate traits that are terrible. I simply look at their actions. There are a few qabiils in Somalia, whose leadership need to turfed. If you want to cry, and have a sissy fit, then be my guest

[Kukri]

Is that cadho emanating from your sweat pore ?

You is a qabilist 3 degrees below grandpakhalif black belt...

[melo]

You don't even know what Qabiilism means .

[Kukri]

enlighten me sxb.

am all ears.

[melo]

enlighten me sxb.

am all ears.

Qabiilism is supporting your qabiil, to the point where you insult, and put down other Qabiils to prop your own clan up. Qabiilists believe their Qabiil is better than other clans.

Now if you can prove i do any of this, then please do

[Kukri]

enlighten me sxb.

am all ears.

Qabiilism is supporting your qabiil, to the point where you insult, and put down other Qabiils to prop your own clan up. Qabiilists believe their Qabiil is better than other clans.

Now if you can prove i do any of this, then please do

Qabilism doesn't necessarily means you have to support your qabil.

waxaad naga dhaadhicineyso bal dey

You just proved you are a qabilist by changing the defenition of a qabilist in order not to fit the profile of a qabilist

[melo]

^Well i don't support my qabiil, then my criticisms must be objective then? What else could motivate someone other than their clan affliations?

I know.. Islam .

Abgaal leadership betrayed the nation. If you want to cry about this, then do it in the corner. No one wants to see you.

[Kukri]

From all the clans in the South/ or Somalia why just Abgaal sxb?

Surely you can't be telling me that they are the only ones that betrayed the country?

Am just curious as to why Abgaal in particular? if you search deep am sure you'll come out with a logical explanation that is very personal to Melo

[melo]

^ Well if you have read anything that i have written, then my most stinging criticism of betrayal was my own clan. Then there is Majerteen clan leadership. And you have the Abgaal clan leadership. It is these 3, sacad, abgaal and majerteen who i spend my time with. Maybe you should read my posts more often, if you are going to accuse me of things.