Muxumed Liibaan Jadeer and Raage Ugaas and Xamar

[X.Playa]

the irony , that man was most popular poet even in Xamar in 1899 and yet guess who Afweyne named a school after.

and for Isaaq and Habar Awal how sad , one of the greatest somali poet , no record of him, i was shocked to read in google Ina Meygaag Samatar collected few poems of Raage Ugaas and not Jadeer, Idoor brain works in starnge ways .. waa is tus # 1. At least the Mareexaan Shire Jaamac included 1 poem of Jadeer Vs Raage Ugaas in his book of 1965.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

ma ciise muusuu ahaa, I'm ashamed I never heard of him before

[X.Playa]

he was reer Samatar

[The_Emperior5]

Indeed the iidoor brain works very different than normal

Playa did you get the the collection of the Muxummad libaan jadeer him and raage exchanged it was a long chain of poems

[X.Playa]

I heared there is a tape one from Lumumbe's collection and one is owned by Boobe Yuusuf Ducaale

[The_Emperior5]

I heared there is a tape one from Lumumbe's collection and one is owned by Boobe Yuusuf Ducaale

what boobe has a collection of Muxummad libaan jadeers old poems why didn't he re recorded it on cd and publish it waxan ka baqaya if he dies it will get lost

[X.Playa]

he has Aflow too , he is a good collector but he is one of them collectors who brood over poems and never spread them, i guess he is hatching them like Muuse Galaal you never know how Idoor brains work , the Daarood are geniuses they had 31 poems of Rage Ugaas and made him into legend , whereas his Isaaq nemesis is not even known by his own sub-clan.

[The_Emperior5]

Xplaya daarood had their best chance during the Kacaan regime to spread stuff like Raage ugaas was aabihi sugaanta and stuff like he contributed hoowyaa alleeyaa howya alleyaa to the Somali poetry with no evidence at all.

if boobe has Aflows poem aswell than that is good if he collects it well but he needs to re record it and publish it so that the SL students can study these poems as part of the literature. much of these poems consist of ancient old Somali language.

[The`Republic]

I have nothing against the topic but affinity with English makes me state emphatically there is no correlation to be derived between the poet and the nature of his popularity "even in Xamar" simply by using Signor Robecchi's book title. Robecchi was an Italian man who traveled throughout the Somali territories and Banadir was the name of Italian Somaliland at that time.

[X.Playa]

The Republic ,

Percisly beacuse Jadeer was from the other corner of that land namely north-west Hargaysa and South of Jigjiga. If he wasn't popular how could his name spread way beyond his tarditional neighbours fro all west , north, south , east ?

[The`Republic]

The title of the book is Somalia (Land of Somalis) and Banadir (Italian Somaliland): Voyage to Explore Africa's Orient

You just took the title of the book to infer Jaadeer might have been known in Xamar. Well no, the title of the book itself doesn't imply Xamar because Robecchi traveled throughout the Somali territories. He is not well known because he didn't write in English but Robebecchi was the most well traveled European explorer in East Africa. He even traveled extensively in Ethiopia.

For example he took these drawings of my own sub-clan (the rer Siyaad Diini of Marehan) in Shiilaabo area



The name of his book which is a collection of his exploration does not imply Jaadeer was known in actual Xamar which you inferred without evidence.

[X.Playa]

Still it doesn't negate the fact that Jadeer was popular in those regions the author travalled in which was 100% non Isaaq areas. How else did he hear about him through Radio??

[The`Republic]

The problem here is the English language.

[X.Playa]

The English language is clear and its says "prominant"

1.
standing out so as to be seen easily; conspicuous; particularly noticeable: Her eyes are her most prominent feature.

2.
standing out beyond the adjacent surface or line; projecting.

3.
leading, important, or well-known: a prominent citizen.

[The`Republic]

He is mentioned in a book for God's sake and you used the title of a book to infer that prominence was in Xamar today! It is like jumping from A to Z. Let alone proper analysis of documentation, that is ridiculous conjecture skills. What is the context? Where is Robecchi's mention of Jader mentioned? What radio when there is nothing to that effect?

Robecchi's book was about was about his travels to East Africa. Shiilaabo was not even part of the Banadir. The ONLY thing you have now is that a part of the title of Robecchi's book contains the word "Banadir" (Italian Somaliland in Italian colonial history) and so therefore everything mentioned must have been observed in today's Xamar.

You are ridiculous.

Btw: Robecchi recorded many Marehan poems I have yet seen sourced anywhere. Does that mean he took those poems in Xamar too???