Interesting Debate. Somalilanders VS Delusional Unionists .
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Interesting Debate. Somalilanders VS Delusional Unionists .
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Re: Interesting Debate. Secessionist VS Unionist.
I didn't watch it because I don't like topic title "Secessionist ". Since when independence became an act of secession? Waxaad ku hadlay luqadii cadawga SL.
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Re: Interesting Debate. Secessionist VS Unionist.
LeJusticier wrote:I didn't watch it because I don't like topic title "Secessionist ". Since when independence became an act of secession? Waxaad ku hadlay luqadii cadawga SL.
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Re: Interesting Debate. Somalilanders VS Delusional Unionists .
Sorry about that, Corrected the title.
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Re: Interesting Debate. Somalilanders VS Delusional Unionists .
Secessionist lost this debate... dadka doodaya dhamaantood waa from waqooyiga somaliya.. waqooyiga somaliya iskuma raacsana Secessionismka.. of course 99% of isaaqs are pro Secessionist , sidoo kale dhulooz and warsangeli and gadanbursi 99% of them are pro Unionist.
so sheekadu waa caadadii soomaalida.. qabiilkeeyga meeshu raaco ayaan raacayaa... ogaada somaliland waa Secessionist sababtoo ah gobolada waqooyi ee somaliya inay ka mid yihiin ayaa dunida dhan including UN u aqoonsan tahay..
so sheekadu waa caadadii soomaalida.. qabiilkeeyga meeshu raaco ayaan raacayaa... ogaada somaliland waa Secessionist sababtoo ah gobolada waqooyi ee somaliya inay ka mid yihiin ayaa dunida dhan including UN u aqoonsan tahay..
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Re: Interesting Debate. Secessionist VS Unionist.
Methylamine wrote:LeJusticier wrote:I didn't watch it because I don't like topic title "Secessionist ". Since when independence became an act of secession? Waxaad ku hadlay luqadii cadawga SL.
Lejusticierwaaba ka sii daran hearing Somalilanders tell people "we're seceding from Somalia" so cringeworthy

ramzy2277 wrote:Sorry about that, Corrected the title.

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Re: Interesting Debate. Somalilanders VS Delusional Unionists .
The moderator didn't like Samatar's powerful oratorical skills and told him to STOP! and that pissed off the professor 

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Re: Interesting Debate. Somalilanders VS Delusional Unionists .
yalaxaw
xaayaw googaa ? say cigalle !
habartaa ninkii oo qabo oon misena ku dhalin muxuus kuu yahay ?
xaayaw googaa ? say cigalle !
habartaa ninkii oo qabo oon misena ku dhalin muxuus kuu yahay ?
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Re: Interesting Debate. Somalilanders VS Delusional Unionists .
Waa run Woqoyigu iskuma raacsana gooni isu taag laakin darajadu aye kala leeyihin. Cisse iyo Gadabursigu support Somaliland but are skeptical about secession. They are willing to participate in Somaliland to some degree.DR-YALAXOOW wrote:Secessionist lost this debate... dadka doodaya dhamaantood waa from waqooyiga somaliya.. waqooyiga somaliya iskuma raacsana Secessionismka.. of course 99% of isaaqs are pro Secessionist , sidoo kale dhulooz and warsangeli and gadanbursi 99% of them are pro Unionist.
Dhulbahante iyo Warsangeli are opposed to Somaliland and completely opposed to secession. They are empowered in a united Somalia where they a part of the largest clan and have great say politically. Dhulbahante and Warsangeli can become President or PM in a united Somalia, but will never be allowed near the levers of power in Somaliland. It is simply impossible for them to become normal citizens in Somaliland.
Re: Interesting Debate. Somalilanders VS Delusional Unionists .
Couldnt have said it any betterthegoodshepherd wrote:Waa run Woqoyigu iskuma raacsana gooni isu taag laakin darajadu aye kala leeyihin. Cisse iyo Gadabursigu support Somaliland but are skeptical about secession. They are willing to participate in Somaliland to some degree.DR-YALAXOOW wrote:Secessionist lost this debate... dadka doodaya dhamaantood waa from waqooyiga somaliya.. waqooyiga somaliya iskuma raacsana Secessionismka.. of course 99% of isaaqs are pro Secessionist , sidoo kale dhulooz and warsangeli and gadanbursi 99% of them are pro Unionist.
Dhulbahante iyo Warsangeli are opposed to Somaliland and completely opposed to secession. They are empowered in a united Somalia where they a part of the largest clan and have great say politically. Dhulbahante and Warsangeli can become President or PM in a united Somalia, but will never be allowed near the levers of power in Somaliland. It is simply impossible for them to become normal citizens in Somaliland.

Re: Interesting Debate. Somalilanders VS Delusional Unionists .
Oh my, this trio ....Rooble90 wrote:Couldnt have said it any betterthegoodshepherd wrote:Waa run Woqoyigu iskuma raacsana gooni isu taag laakin darajadu aye kala leeyihin. Cisse iyo Gadabursigu support Somaliland but are skeptical about secession. They are willing to participate in Somaliland to some degree.DR-YALAXOOW wrote:Secessionist lost this debate... dadka doodaya dhamaantood waa from waqooyiga somaliya.. waqooyiga somaliya iskuma raacsana Secessionismka.. of course 99% of isaaqs are pro Secessionist , sidoo kale dhulooz and warsangeli and gadanbursi 99% of them are pro Unionist.
Dhulbahante iyo Warsangeli are opposed to Somaliland and completely opposed to secession. They are empowered in a united Somalia where they a part of the largest clan and have great say politically. Dhulbahante and Warsangeli can become President or PM in a united Somalia, but will never be allowed near the levers of power in Somaliland. It is simply impossible for them to become normal citizens in Somaliland.

Re: Interesting Debate. Somalilanders VS Delusional Unionists .
Dr Yalaxoow, thegoodshepard, and Rooble90;
The Tri-Tards.
The Tri-Tards.

Re: Interesting Debate. Somalilanders VS Delusional Unionists .
Waa beentaa, Beenaale! Dhulbahante and Warsangeli can and should become President of Somaliland if they embrace and participate in Somaliland politics. Gadabursi were pro Siyad Barre and fought the SNM, but they were elected twice to highest office BEFORE ex SNM members. If they did, anyone canthegoodshepherd wrote:Waa run Woqoyigu iskuma raacsana gooni isu taag laakin darajadu aye kala leeyihin. Cisse iyo Gadabursigu support Somaliland but are skeptical about secession. They are willing to participate in Somaliland to some degree.DR-YALAXOOW wrote:Secessionist lost this debate... dadka doodaya dhamaantood waa from waqooyiga somaliya.. waqooyiga somaliya iskuma raacsana Secessionismka.. of course 99% of isaaqs are pro Secessionist , sidoo kale dhulooz and warsangeli and gadanbursi 99% of them are pro Unionist.
Dhulbahante iyo Warsangeli are opposed to Somaliland and completely opposed to secession. They are empowered in a united Somalia where they a part of the largest clan and have great say politically. Dhulbahante and Warsangeli can become President or PM in a united Somalia, but will never be allowed near the levers of power in Somaliland. It is simply impossible for them to become normal citizens in Somaliland.
In United Somali republic, Dhulbahante, Gadabursi, and Warsangeli become drop in the pocket, but in Somaliland, they make a greater percentage of the population and reside large territory and thus wield power. The only thing hindering the Harris, unlike Samaroon, is their participation. They are getting there it looks like finally
You have us confused with Puntlqnd state and their Cumar Maxamud and Cismaan Maxamud isku dhiib dhiib politicking.
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Re: Interesting Debate. Somalilanders VS Delusional Unionists .
Saaxib runta lama diido. Dhulbahante iyo Warsangeli are not Gadabursi. Isku dhaqan weye Isaaqu iyo Gadabursi oo wax wey qeybsankaran oo cuqdad badan uma dhexeyso.
Anigu MJ ahaan uma hadlayo, I'm talking in pure political terms. Why would you expect a somali clan to seperate from where they are a majority to where they are a minority?? It does not add up politically.
Anigu MJ ahaan uma hadlayo, I'm talking in pure political terms. Why would you expect a somali clan to seperate from where they are a majority to where they are a minority?? It does not add up politically.
Re: Interesting Debate. Somalilanders VS Delusional Unionists .
dhulbahante and warsengeli might be happier with somalia and they probably are. and if that is there sole arguement that we oppose somaliland because we want to be part of our larger tribe well that does not hold any legal weight,
africas borders are those left by the colonials and nobody is going to change that to appease a tribe. they can negotiate their fair share and take part in somaliland state building willingly or forcefully.
africas borders are those left by the colonials and nobody is going to change that to appease a tribe. they can negotiate their fair share and take part in somaliland state building willingly or forcefully.
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