Galmudug drought & AS and Dumaaye wars

[mahadalla]

gaajada abaaraha iyo waxyeelada ay ku heyso xooladhaqatada iyo alshabaab

Caqliga alshabaab, iyo ilmo cali dheere gaajada iyo abaarahan jira, waxa ay deegaan ka dumaaye ee duleedka xarardheere u soo direen ciidan ay hogaaminayaan Ceyr iyo Saleebaan si ay ula hadlaan dadkooda xooladhaqatada ah ee wada daga deegaanka Dumaaye oo ayna xoolo sako ah ku kaalmeeyaan ciidamadooda abaarahan jira.


alshabaab iyo xoolodhaqato maleeshiyo ayaa ku dagaalamayey dumaaye last four days and still going.

warkii oo dhan

http://saacad.com/2016/11/dhageyso-ware ... an-yihiin/

[Strategic]

alshabab terrorist is a ruthless,they dont care about draught,famine or anything else,their goal is extortion by force.i hate these kufr group who bomb markets and mosques.


p.s
alshabab can be defeated easily,take lesson from PL and its people,no one is bothering them extorting them,that is laudable indeed.

[mahadalla]

alshabab terrorist is a ruthless,they dont care about draught,famine or anything else,their goal is extortion by force.i hate these kufr group who bomb markets and mosques.


p.s
alshabab can be defeated easily,take lesson from PL and its people,no one is bothering them extorting them,that is laudable indeed.

Adeer nacnacda iyo PL ka aad sheegeyso meesha kalatag, caruur raxanwayne iyo jareer dingo boat wadataa meeshan ma joogaan. Rag hawiyaa ayaa meesha isku haya doofaar ismaaciil sheekadiisa meelkale LA aad.

Pl ka aad sheegeysid ha iska celiso labada xabo ee dàacish ka qandala jooga

[mahadalla]

Dadka islaynayaa ama shabaab ha ahaado ama galmudug waa Hawiye, inta kale ma ay qusayso arrinka kan

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http://ceelhuur.com/?p=40576

[Strategic]

there is no hawiye,it is broad term,no one uses it anymore,i will kick you in the mouth if you say i am hawiye in my fadhikudhirir session,everybody mentions their subclans.the fight is b.w habargidir mooryans nothing new,let them continue killing eacother,i will watching from the sidelines.

why is galmudug not sending troops there? the entire galmudug is being overrun by terrrorists.
doofar ismail is better then you cannabilist mooryans,their lands are peaceful,i wil visit garowe,enjoy the food but i will never ever entertain the idea of going to cadaado or where every HG mooryans live.

[GalliumerianSlayer]

Mahadalla, Strategic is an Cumar Mahmoud, not Wacbudaan.

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Mahadalla

This conflict is simply about money, the al-shabab near ceel-huur and Ceeldheere as well as large parts of Xarardheere are commanded by a Guderbise guy and much of the foot soldiers are not even locals, large parts of them are Jareer and Raxanweyne.

Previously they were allies with the notorious pirate Ina Gafaaje and they shared profits until once the money dried up, they went to vicious war with each other, ina Gafaaje lost that war allied with Galmudug, old school scores are being settled just like the Wagerdhac in Kaxandhaale for revenge for being kicked out of Galinsoor in the 90's, these wounds never die.

This conflict should be looked at not as drought wars but part of a wider war, no purpose talking about al-shabab without mentioning their financiers in Somaliland/Puntland and UAE, if you take out a map, they occupy all strategic coastal routes and block all routes to and from Xamar with extortionate isbaaro rates.

They basically force you to use Bosaaso as the central routes are free from them, the route through shabelle dhexe is a MJ guy and so is the one blocking Xamar to Jubaland in Jilib and Jamaame, in gobalada dhexe it's a Guderbise guy, nothing here is by accident sxb, the people on the ground know this, and we are working on a solution, but the odds are stacked against us.

[PanSomaliNationalist]

Mahadalla, Strategic is an Cumar Mahmoud, not Wacbudaan.

We deny that nigger MJ citizenship

[Geeljire252]

filthy galgale yaa ku yiri siyaasad ka hadal


stick to cleaning shoes

[PanSomaliNationalist]

filthy galgale yaa ku yiri siyaasad ka hadal


stick to cleaning shoes

Stick to sucking gaas ceeb

[Geeljire252]

Stick to gaas

Are you galgale ?

[gambit]

Mahadalla

This conflict is simply about money, the al-shabab near ceel-huur and Ceeldheere as well as large parts of Xarardheere are commanded by a Guderbise guy and much of the foot soldiers are not even locals, large parts of them are Jareer and Raxanweyne.

Previously they were allies with the notorious pirate Ina Gafaaje and they shared profits until once the money dried up, they went to vicious war with each other, ina Gafaaje lost that war allied with Galmudug, old school scores are being settled just like the Wagerdhac in Kaxandhaale for revenge for being kicked out of Galinsoor in the 90's, these wounds never die.

This conflict should be looked at not as drought wars but part of a wider war, no purpose talking about al-shabab without mentioning their financiers in Somaliland/Puntland and UAE, if you take out a map, they occupy all strategic coastal routes and block all routes to and from Xamar with extortionate isbaaro rates.

They basically force you to use Bosaaso as the central routes are free from them, the route through shabelle dhexe is a MJ guy and so is the one blocking Xamar to Jubaland in Jilib and Jamaame, in gobalada dhexe it's a Guderbise guy, nothing here is by accident sxb, the people on the ground know this, and we are working on a solution, but the odds are stacked against us.

Interesting conspiracy theory. So what is hawiyes game plan since amison won't clear alshabaab since they have an interest in the continuing the conflict. Your between a rock and a hard place.

[mahadalla]

Mahadalla

This conflict is simply about money, the al-shabab near ceel-huur and Ceeldheere as well as large parts of Xarardheere are commanded by a Guderbise guy and much of the foot soldiers are not even locals, large parts of them are Jareer and Raxanweyne.

Previously they were allies with the notorious pirate Ina Gafaaje and they shared profits until once the money dried up, they went to vicious war with each other, ina Gafaaje lost that war allied with Galmudug, old school scores are being settled just like the Wagerdhac in Kaxandhaale for revenge for being kicked out of Galinsoor in the 90's, these wounds never die.

This conflict should be looked at not as drought wars but part of a wider war, no purpose talking about al-shabab without mentioning their financiers in Somaliland/Puntland and UAE, if you take out a map, they occupy all strategic coastal routes and block all routes to and from Xamar with extortionate isbaaro rates.

They basically force you to use Bosaaso as the central routes are free from them, the route through shabelle dhexe is a MJ guy and so is the one blocking Xamar to Jubaland in Jilib and Jamaame, in gobalada dhexe it's a Guderbise guy, nothing here is by accident sxb, the people on the ground know this, and we are working on a solution, but the odds are stacked against us.

war ninyahow, galmudug sacad iyo xoogaa saleebaan ah maahee aaway intii kale? ma iswaydiiday?

Duduble iyo saleebaan aniga ayey i dhaleen i waydii dhulkaas, Dudublaha afka wada duuban xagee ku ogayed iyo murudsade oo iska daa kuweenii afka duubnaaye ay kaliftay in xitaa dadwaynihii caadiga ahaa gaalo ka carar uga guuraan magaaloyinkoodii.

Ceyrkan kala qoqoban oo qaarba meel lug kula jira ama dowlad ha ahaato ama shabaab iyo ahlusuna oo aan haba yaraatee wax hogaana laheyn ee dhexdiisa shabaab iyo ahlusuna isu dila xagee ku ogeyd? ma dadkale ayaan taa ku eedeynaa?

Abgaal waceysle oo intooda banadani afka duubtay aaway ee dhooban inta u dhaxaysa ceeldheer iyo xarardheere? saruurka ayagoo afka duuban dhooban joowle aaway? wacad alle in alshabaab hal daqiiqo laga waayi lahaa dhamaan soomaaliya hadii aysan aheyn nimankaas lafdhabarta u ah ee yaanan waxba dadkale iyo geedaha la xaxagan.

Hobyo in ay yeelato Dekad dadkeeda ayaa gabay oo u diiday,
Sacad iyo Saleebaan iyagaa isbaaro u dhigtay 25 sano ee la soo dhaafay, waa la ogaa markii United arab emirates oo dooneysa in Hobyo ka hirgaliso Dakad iyo saylad xoolaha laga dhoofiyo ka dhisto, iyagoo og in xoolaha ugu badan Soomaaliya laga keeno Central Somalia, waa ayadii Sacad iyo Saleebaan isku diiday iskuna fahmi waayey in ay wax qeybsadaan taa oo keentay in midna documenti dhulka dakada anaa leh la soo baxay midna maya ee anigaa leh oo ay isku afgaran waayeen in ay wada wadaagaan waxna qeybsadaan, taas oo kaliftay in UAE u wareejiso sayladii xoolaha Boosaaso oo aysan markii hore rabin.

marka ninyahow yaan cidkale la eedeyn, in boosaaso xoolaha gobolada dhexe laga dhoofiyaa waxa kalifay hirgaliyeyna sacad iyo saleebaan oo isku afgaran waayey in ay dekeda hobyo oo ay UAE rabtay wadaagaan, iyagaana waa sacad iyo saleebaane u wareejiyey mashruucaas Dekada Boosaaso, taasi waa thaariikh qoran intii og un baa og.

hada oo aan halkaan wax ku qoreyno, Dakada hobyo waxaa isbaaro dhigtay Guuleed oo markii hore u saxiixay ciraaq aan wax xoolaa ay ku dhisaan heysan oo markii uu saxiixay ka dib laftoodii u dhuuntay, wax kale oo qosho ahna ama dadaal Guuled ma hayo, waxa uu ku mashquulay kana dhamaan waayey sidii uu saaxiibadii xukunka ugu soo celin lahaa markale.

Taas ayaa kaliftay in baayacmushtariga galmudug sida ilmo tahliil isku dayaan in un wax un kala socod siiyaan, waa taa ay loading craft meeshaa keenay, qaarkale oo baayacmushtariga Galmudug na maal mihii lasoo dhaafay waa iyagii geeyey company Irish ah oo indha indheeya bal sidii wax meeshan uga hirgeli lahaayeen mar hadii guuleed gabay howshiisii.

points keygu waxa uu yahay yaan cidkale waxba la eedeyn, shabaab ka xarardheere ilaa ceelbuur waa dad layaqaan, galmudug ha la timaado sidii ay dadkeeda lafdhabarta u ah alshabaab ay ku kasban laheyd.

Dekadana markii ninkii meesha madaxda looga dhigay u soo jeedsado ayaan sugaynaa bal meesha uu wax ka bilaabo, Turkey 10 years ayaan dhisaynaa ayey yiraahdeen modern port oo iygu wax boobsiis lagu dhisaa iyo small project dooni mayaan.

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Mahadalla

Sxb I agree with most of your points, but let me correct you were you have gone wrong here, first and foremost in Somalia things are built by business people not leaders or clan elders whom are just leeches and parasites, show me anything significant any clan elder has built?

I put the entire blame for the Hobyo fiasco on Qeybdiid and Ina Gafaaje shoulders, they single handedly put a isbaaro on the entire tribe for decades but alxhamdulilah their reign has come to an end, both were agents for P/land, Faroole ran the piracy racket from Garowe and ina gafaaje was his foot soldier

As for Qeybdiid, he was an agent for them since the 90's which today you see the proof off how he sided with P/land in the elections, his role in the TFG and how he never waged war against them during his reign and freely allowed them to make the biggest encroachment on our territory unopposed, not to forget how he started the conflict with Ceydiid and spread false rumours, I can give a lengthy list of evidence but no need.

Both man one a saleeban pirate foot soldier for Faroole the other a decadent double-agent blood thirsty warlord are responsible and those that supported them blindly along with their financiers that stopped countless of business man from both sides from making any investments in Hobyo.

This UAE deal with HSM was just sabre rattling, I know the guy that even met them from within the government, UAE doesn't build anything, they have no track record of building anything, they didn't even send a single person to survey, they only did this out of fear of the Turks and Chinese, to keep them out.

The Turks sent a surveyor, whom Ina Gafaaje specifically came from Ceelhur armed to the teeth to oppose them, he did the same with the Chinese that came even shot at them, did the same to Somali business man that came from UAE and almost killed them, ask yourself what Ina Gafaaje pirate Faroole foot soldier has to gain from this?

Your damn right he was being funded by the UAE using Puntland as her dirty foot soldiers, if you ignore the financiers and keep blaming yourself you will never know your true enemy, and if you don't know your enemy you will never win and only self destruct which is what HAG has been doing, we almost fell for this trap when 200 heavily armed Sacad man were being readied to be dispatched to Hobyo with 8 technicals to finish that guy once and for all.

But advisers from Guleed and several Saleeban put a stop this, as the whole purpose behind the provocation which the UAE is financing, is to spark a war between the two tribes, cooler heads prevailed and today much of Ina Gafaaje previous power is suppressed and much of that came about by appointing a Saleeban as the mayor, the same with Qeybdiid, his power and influence has severely declined, he is only thinking about survival now from the international criminal court.

I am not a fan of Guleed, but it was he who convinced Tahliil to invest and bring that Sactar to Hobyo, it was he who went all over the UAE to all the prominent business people to invest, clearly telling people that Turkey, China will not build anything their, the Turks estimated 40 million in their survey, but the UAE blocked them just as they blocked Mogadishu internationalisation for it's port using GCC countries as pressure.

On the subject of Al-shabab sxb I was on the ground leading a large convoy of bull dozers, D8's and other large construction equipments that are currently being used to build the roads, as you know we avoided using Bosaaso and went via Mogadishu routes, yes there are some murursade, duduble afduub but trust me they are a minority and do not call the shots at all.

Everyone on the ground their knows the commanders and I spoke to several man that actually fought them in Xarardheere some injured who told me this because previously I believed the same as you, the propaganda that it's ceyr, murursade and duduble, mind you the large ships filled with 4x4 due to arrive in Hobyo soon is owned by a Ceyr business man.

You are buying into false narrative of self-blame, absolving clear blatant foreign interference that even people on the ground and the administration is aware off, and should be expected since Hobyo threatens their entire livelihoods, you think they will just sit around and twiddle their thumbs and watch you destroy them economically?

The axis today in the Horn of Africa is GCC-America-Eritrea axis against the Chinese-Ethiopian Axis everyone else is a pawn on the chess board, this includes Somali government, Galmudug, Somaliland and Puntland, with Djibouti being the most strategic asset, I will post a separate thread about this.

[PanSomaliNationalist]

Stick to gaas

Are you galgale ?

tf no