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Deni surrender watched by Donors is the single most important day of Somalia since 1991.

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Deni surrender watched by Donors is the single most important day of Somalia since 1991.

Postby Voltage » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:01 am

WHY it happened is the story, NOT HOW OR WHAT happened.

The event was NOT important, nor even the issue historically important. The meaning is also underwhelming and even may not sustain to election time (Deni can change but won't).

AGAIN, the whole thing is historically irrelevant in both form and function.

And yet, even meaningless in form and function, what it REPRESENTS is so historically overwhelming for Somalia even imagining what it says is too complex and dense for me to know the full extent.

I feel like that one person in a movie who senses something
like a Tsunami and stands up like "Guys...Guys...." meanwhile he doesn't even know how big or strong something is.

Think about this:

1. The issue is about Election issues when the Somali political actors are expected and even accepted by the people to be fighing each other.
2. This is the time when Villa Somalia itself is not government but another defendent in Court.
3. The Judge is the Donors. Clear cut, and not even "foreign meddling.
4. The time is is almost end of term and everything ends with "compromise".
5. "Compromise" was really simple forced settlement that said Somali Gov was the weakest power but the most importance nationally, while other factions went down the line in terms of strongest regional control vs least importance nationally.
6. Basically the Somali government could have been control of one hotel, but it HAD TO EXIST at all exists to represent a country existed. Another group could have strongest control of an entire region, but it could have less national importance than a faction without complete or even great dominance of regional area but did control food source with immediate and national importance.
6. The settlement basically was the Donors as customer goes from store to store and in the regional control vs. national importance ratio would buy the demands....
7.....but Donors have to buy from every shop so the final price is always controlled by the seller or regional factions. Overtime, when the sellers realized the Donor always had to buy, the dynamic changed where the sellers or regional factions controlled the "forced settlements."
8. The Donors would take to the Somali government and then say "EAT." The Somali government couldn't even refuse to eat because as something like a Robot (the form of a person who didn't exist) even the mouth eating the food was a robotic jaw that would open and eat when Donors pressed a button.
9. The meal would be announced to the people as "Compromise."

This process has been unchanged since 1991.

Only the small unassuming Deni press conference deviated.

Think about this... think about just the war, success, and results of Farmaajo Gov in a totally unseen but existential battle waged to get to this.

The significance isn't even important to Farmaajo personally or to his Gov as I said in the title "most important day for SOMALIA" since 1991.

Farmaajo's most important day was his election probably.

The significance was for Somalia and it is inherited by succeeding gov.

Just think.

Hint: Nick Haysom, refusal to move Gedo troops even with US/UN public compulsion, troops to border, Dubai airplane raid, defying international ingroup pressure like Arab League Qatar or Syria, fixing ethiopia relationship to stop biggest tunnel manipulated, early on starting the fight to break the back of autonomy, took on EVERY federal state to bring its ownership to domestic instead of foreign clients, emphasis and direct use of national troops against tribal militias, completely destroying even the capability to be TOLD let alone be BROUGHT even requests for any entity to be involved in regional vs national meetings, NEVER even allowing one national position to be surrendered or compromised for any reason except in direct negotiations with federal states.


I mean just think about these as little HINTS to start even wanting to begin understanding the density, context, and complexity of the events and happenings and actions that brought this level of independence and integrity to a Somali Gov which existed without it.

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Re: Deni surrender watched by Donors is the single most important day of Somalia since 1991.

Postby BigBreak » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:26 pm

How embarrassing that the fake central government of failed state Somalia has no control nor even influence on Puntland enclave aka Majertenia despite PL being by far the most peaceful part of the former Italian colony :lol:

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Re: Deni surrender watched by Donors is the single most important day of Somalia since 1991.

Postby Voltage » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:16 am

How embarrassing that the fake central government of failed state Somalia has no control nor even influence on Puntland enclave aka Majertenia despite PL being by far the most peaceful part of the former Italian colony :lol:
They do have influence. They just got it to surrender though Deni went to Ethiopia, Dubai, and everywhere in between.

It has gained so much control and influence over a short period of time under Farmaajo, that the Donor countries were there to witness the surrender as mark of public recognition that no one can go behind the back of Villa Somalia again.

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Re: Deni surrender watched by Donors is the single most important day of Somalia since 1991.

Postby BigBreak » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:10 am

What you have mentioned is EXTERNAL sovereignty and as an internationally recognised authority the FGS of course can, with a favourable geopolitical climate, use the international community to put pressure on a dissident FMS such as PL or even to a lesser degree my own unrecognised country the Republic of Somaliland.

External sovereignty isn't enough though, it must be followed up with INTERNAL sovereignty meaning hard power control and the presence of the state's federal bureaucracy and national institutions within the most peaceful part of your country (Puntland)

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Re: Deni surrender watched by Donors is the single most important day of Somalia since 1991.

Postby Voltage » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:05 am

I'm literally too bored by your facetious statement to address it. "Contextualization." Go learn it.

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Re: Deni surrender watched by Donors is the single most important day of Somalia since 1991.

Postby Sbashi » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:47 pm

What a joke, like anyone would take hashi seriously. He has already been shutdown by somaliland folk. Imagine trying to represent a place you aren't even from. His antics are funny, what a senile old man.

As for Gedo, madoobe has lost, you will see it in the coming days. What's being resolved is not Gedo votes itself that has already been agreed to before in the previous agreement with the IC present. There will be no going back on those agreements. What they are referring to is the wants of other jubbaland folk to move their votes to gedo. Madoobe would either have to agree what these folks want, or risk being labeled as a spoiler. It's a huge win for jubbaland people.
I already mentioned this before when sahala tried to talk about Gedo issue. I thought he was trying to mislead people by misinterpreting it on purpose. But turns out he himself didn't understand and he was being honest.
:damn: :myman:


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