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Warlord Cali Mahdi: 'Dalkan balaayo ayaa ka dhaceysa'

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Re: Warlord Cali Mahdi: 'Dalkan balaayo ayaa ka dhaceysa'

Postby Nomand » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:29 am

I understand where abkoow is coming from, other subclans like MX, MJ ,HG and DH have 3 or more mid to large sized cities that is why he is mentioning caabudwaaq or garowe.

Abgaal's biggest abgaal only town is warsheekh, where less then 300 people live so to abkoow Mogadishu is all he has. But the question is can abgaal hold mogadishu military? the answer is no because we saw that from 1991 to 2006 abgaal only controlled parts of mogadishu. if abgaal where the overwhelming majority then murusade or HG or even xawaadle would not come anywhere near the capital let alone murusade controlling the airport during the civil war.

so i don't buy the propaganda that mogadishu is abgaal goof if mogadishu was abgaal goof ali mahdi would have defeated aidiid like how SNF defeated USC in jubbaland. Infact it would be easier as ali mahdi was only fighting the HG while SNF was fighting the whole USC plus SDM and SPM.

the proof is in the pudding as they say and abgaal had from 1991 to 2006 to prove that Mogadishu is abgaal goof.

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Re: Warlord Cali Mahdi: 'Dalkan balaayo ayaa ka dhaceysa'

Postby Phinks » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:16 am

I understand where abkoow is coming from, other subclans like MX, MJ ,HG and DH have 3 or more mid to large sized cities that is why he is mentioning caabudwaaq or garowe.

Abgaal's biggest abgaal only town is warsheekh, where less then 300 people live so to abkoow Mogadishu is all he has. But the question is can abgaal hold mogadishu military? the answer is no because we saw that from 1991 to 2006 abgaal only controlled parts of mogadishu. if abgaal where the overwhelming majority then murusade or HG or even xawaadle would not come anywhere near the capital let alone murusade controlling the airport during the civil war.

so i don't buy the propaganda that mogadishu is abgaal goof if mogadishu was abgaal goof ali mahdi would have defeated aidiid like how SNF defeated USC in jubbaland. Infact it would be easier as ali mahdi was only fighting the HG while SNF was fighting the whole USC plus SDM and SPM.

the proof is in the pudding as they say and abgaal had from 1991 to 2006 to prove that Mogadishu is abgaal goof.
Sxb, have some shame. Abgaal were in a war of attrition against a coalition of Bantu, HG, RX, OG, Dir, Mursade etc the fact they held onto xamar and fought them to a stalemate is a testament to their strength and tenacity, and I'm telling you this as a darood, you can't take that away from them.

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Re: Warlord Cali Mahdi: 'Dalkan balaayo ayaa ka dhaceysa'

Postby Nomand » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:36 am

Phinks,

murusade where allies with abgaal. OG,DIR,RX and bantu where not involved in the xamar war.

infact DIR, OG, RX and all of hawiye where involved in the war in jubbaland from beledxaawo to kismaayo and where roundly defeated by SNF. in fact most hawiye subclans either sided with abgaal or stayed out of ali mahdi and aidiid conflict.

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Re: Warlord Cali Mahdi: 'Dalkan balaayo ayaa ka dhaceysa'

Postby BigBreak » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:56 am

Simple let Bosaso be the seat of Somalia's federal authorities (all three branches) whilst Mogadishu remains the titular capital city that hosts Villa Somalia, the central bank, embassies and be the nation's economic hub

Somalia should keep the parliamentary system whereby the President of Somalia is always Abgaal and the PM of Somalia is always Majerteen

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Re: Warlord Cali Mahdi: 'Dalkan balaayo ayaa ka dhaceysa'

Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:26 am

I understand where abkoow is coming from, other subclans like MX, MJ ,HG and DH have 3 or more mid to large sized cities that is why he is mentioning caabudwaaq or garowe.

Abgaal's biggest abgaal only town is warsheekh, where less then 300 people live so to abkoow Mogadishu is all he has. But the question is can abgaal hold mogadishu military? the answer is no because we saw that from 1991 to 2006 abgaal only controlled parts of mogadishu. if abgaal where the overwhelming majority then murusade or HG or even xawaadle would not come anywhere near the capital let alone murusade controlling the airport during the civil war.

so i don't buy the propaganda that mogadishu is abgaal goof if mogadishu was abgaal goof ali mahdi would have defeated aidiid like how SNF defeated USC in jubbaland. Infact it would be easier as ali mahdi was only fighting the HG while SNF was fighting the whole USC plus SDM and SPM.

the proof is in the pudding as they say and abgaal had from 1991 to 2006 to prove that Mogadishu is abgaal goof.
Sxb, have some shame. Abgaal were in a war of attrition against a coalition of Bantu, HG, RX, OG, Dir, Mursade etc the fact they held onto xamar and fought them to a stalemate is a testament to their strength and tenacity, and I'm telling you this as a darood, you can't take that away from them.
You are indeed correct. Biyomaal, Tunni, Eelaay, gugundhabe, Duduble n Sheikhaal where allied with Ceydiid against Ali mahdi. Ali mahdi had support from Abgaal, Wacdaan, Moobleen n Udeejeen. That's the past though.

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Re: Warlord Cali Mahdi: 'Dalkan balaayo ayaa ka dhaceysa'

Postby Seedyare » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:46 pm

cali mahdi ,cabdullahi yuusuf ,siyad barre,carte qaalib and Caydiid were the biggest causative agents of the civil war.


Siyad bare- Made the country a one man show with no strong govt institutions .He did a lot of positive work but his despotic measures after 77 war made the future of Somalia dark and gloomy. Singub best described the situation in his famous ANTI song 'WAAYUHU SIRGAXANAA,KULULAA SABANADU'

cabdillahi yuusuf- He devised the infamous SSDF that sought help from the Ethiopians .The same Ethiopians he fought with in 77 war . so, he was the pioneer and the role model of the heedless tribal militias that followed suit.

Caydiid and Cali Mahdi- These two translated the Somali problem into a two-man rivalry .they failed to reach a gentleman's agreement between themselves to save the country from full scale anarchy.They failed to control their geelire militiamen from conducting wide spread mischief against non Hawiye people .simply put,the two were overwhelmed by their own mess as they couldn't handle the situation and the inferno erupted nationwide.


Carte Qaalib- was a believer of iidoor secessionism and having witnessed the chaotic situation of xamar he disbanded the SNA .The biggest treason committed against Somalia along with SSDF's alliance with the enemy only to pave the way for notorious SNM to form a formidable partnership with the enemy which still exist to this day.

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Re: Warlord Cali Mahdi: 'Dalkan balaayo ayaa ka dhaceysa'

Postby Khalid Ali » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:10 am

Who is this enemy Ethiopia. Farmaajo is best friend with Ethiopia. He said to them you can have 4 ports in Somalia.

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Re: Warlord Cali Mahdi: 'Dalkan balaayo ayaa ka dhaceysa'

Postby paperino » Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:12 pm

Who is this enemy Ethiopia. Farmaajo is best friend with Ethiopia. He said to them you can have 4 ports in Somalia.
He 'said' it, but so far Ethiopia didn't get any 4 ports. If you're gonna fault someone, do it for 'action', not 'said.'


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