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Many got to the truth of the matter about the post- February 8 Farmaajo but does Suldan Order realize that?

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Many got to the truth of the matter about the post- February 8 Farmaajo but does Suldan Order realize that?

Postby sahal80 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:31 am

i changed from Mooge to Farmaajo in respect of your beloved...:lol:



Suldan order made this thread on February 15 asking what is the difference between february 7 and febfuary 9. hadeey kaa tahay sxb naflacaarunimada farmaajo waan u qarinaynaa dee waligaaba dheh farqi uma dhexeeyo :pac:
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=402186

"Can you tell me one tangible difference between February 7 and February 9? Farmaajo is still the recognized president of the country with all his powers, his administration is still in place. The Parliament, Speakers, PM, Ministers, Army, and International Community all still recognize him as the Head of State.

What has changed? In another topic you admit that the opposition have utterly failed to remove him so their last resort is a "Xamar Spring". For months you have been predicting a doomsday scenario and I'm disappointed as a Q-Anon follower that Biden and government leaders weren't rounded up and arrested with Trump still as president"
James swan maqaamka iyo sharciyada mooge waa lagu muransanyahay
"Tensions over electoral implementation have now been compounded by questions raised by some political figures over the legitimacy of the president’s mandate following the expiry of his constitutional term on 8 February. The Government cites an October parliamentary resolution permitting the President to remain, but this is contested by others
https://unsom.unmissions.org/statement- ... -somalia-0"

mudo usbuuc ahba beesha caalamka ayaa qabanqaabinaysay shirka Xalane ka hor wiiftada Mooge ee qashinka lagu tuuray. waxaa la isku daray qarashka Rooble iyo MM ee hotel Decale iyo martida shirka xalane ee FMSka oo hotelka la dajin doono ayadoo meeshii hore ee xassan Sheekh lagu doortey shirka lagu wado inuu ka dhoco oo isla xalane ku taal.

madaxweynayaasha PL iyo JL ayaa lagu wadey inay wiiga soo socda ku soo degaan hotel decale si ay howshii socotey uga soo qayb qaataan laakin hada qarbudaada Mooge ee shirkii khamiista ayaa chance siin karta inay dib u sii dhacaan.

Hadaad ganacsato tahay waxaad u baahantahay suuq soo maaha hadii kale alaabtaada way dhaceysaa? Sidaas waxaa la mid ah Farmaajo lagama aqoonsana fhe most important stakeholders hadaba waxaa soo xoogeysanaya inay kuwii kake Rooble ku xirmaan ayagoo diidan in Xamartoodii dagaal ka dhoco. wiiftooyinka mooge sidaas ayay qashinka u raacaan
my answer to him
"sxb you are arguing for the sake of arguing so no point in arguing with you

however here is my take on it for the last time

1- post-february 8 Mooge malaha wax sharciyad ah, lagama aqoonsana PL iyo JL iyo oppositionka

for beesha caalamka he is kinda ku sime laakiin malaha awood matalaadeed oo sharciyad ku fadhida malaha ultimate power. mooge naftirkiisa wuxuu isticmaalay old date mar uu gudi ku sheeg garsoor ah sameeyay. waxaa tusaale kuu ah James swan oo oo wasiirada arimaha dibada amisom wacaya taas waxay ka dhigantahay in mooge la mid yahay other stakeholders. matalaad shacbi ah maleh.

beesha caalamka no longer uguma yaaraan "president farmaajo"

lastly every thing is placed under their supervision

Gudiga farsamada baydhabo ku kulmaya waa fikrad maryooleyda ku cusub. meeqa shir aa fashilmay? fashilii rooble garoowe fashilkii mooge dhuusamareeb waxaa ugu wacan ayadoon shirar gogol xaar ah loo samayn iyo mustawe hoose haba ahaadaan wasiiro ama agaasimayaal. hada designkaan beesha caalmakaa dajisay. sidoo kale waxay dajiyeen designka doorashada ayagaana maamulaya doorashada under their supervision. arintaan waxay ka dhigtay Mooge inuu wadan doorashada aeast hasaan sheekh wax waa ka watey asaga iyo FMSka hada mooge iyo FMSka midna ma wataan."




Similar to my answer to him on feb 15.

"Balse waxaa ay muuqataa in madaxweynayaasha Puntland iyo Jubbaland xiligan aqoosaneyn sharciyada madaxweyne Farmaajo iyo dhaqangalinta go'aamada ka soo baxa, iyaga oo dhowr jeer oo hore ku baaqay in madaxweynuhu awooda iska wareejiyo"


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Re: Many got to the truth of the matter about the post- February 8 Farmaajo but does Suldan Order realize that?

Postby sahal80 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:45 am

ka jawaab suaasha?







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Postby Murax » Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:33 am

Although Baghdad Sahal, ended up being wrong more times than we can count, I can’t lie he has an effective online military strategy :russ:


“The International Encyclopedia of the First World War defines attrition warfare as “the sustained process of wearing down an opponent so as to force their physical collapse through continuous losses in personnel, equipment and supplies or [wearing] them down to such an extent that their will to fight collapses.”

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Re: Many got to the truth of the matter about the post- February 8 Farmaajo but does Suldan Order realize that?

Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:23 am

Although Baghdad Sahal, ended up being wrong more times than we can count, I can’t lie he has an effective online military strategy :russ:


“The International Encyclopedia of the First World War defines attrition warfare as “the sustained process of wearing down an opponent so as to force their physical collapse through continuous losses in personnel, equipment and supplies or [wearing] them down to such an extent that their will to fight collapses.”
Bro instead of trolling Sahal. Answer his questions. Few days ago Voltage n Co was talking about how "US" are tired of calling for urgent meetings. Farmaajo called for a meeting last monday which was scheduled today with FMS. What happened? PL n JL said they support the continuation of talks between PM , Mog mayor, HS n opposition.

Omar finish, Guudlawe , PM n opposition have a meeting today.

So yes everybody is ignoring Farmaajo n he's isolated without allies. Even the Gareens have ditched him.
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Re: Many got to the truth of the matter about the post- February 8 Farmaajo but does Suldan Order realize that?

Postby Phinks » Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:25 am

What is the opposition's plan? Just go ahead and have another election with PL/JL?

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Re: Many got to the truth of the matter about the post- February 8 Farmaajo but does Suldan Order realize that?

Postby sahal80 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:40 am

Although Baghdad Sahal, ended up being wrong more times than we can count, I can’t lie he has an effective online military strategy :russ:


“The International Encyclopedia of the First World War defines attrition warfare as “the sustained process of wearing down an opponent so as to force their physical collapse through continuous losses in personnel, equipment and supplies or [wearing] them down to such an extent that their will to fight collapses.”
:lol: حرب استنزاف ay ka tahay kulahaa

suaal aan ku waydiiyay maal dhexdaas ah si toos ah iiga jawaab aan ku dhahay qabiil iyo balaayaa gashay waa kaa soo celiyay hadana waa ka gambisatey ana waa kaa gambistey!

يا استاذ مرح محسوبك موغى ارتكب اكبر غلطة فى حياته عندما ظن انه بامكانه ان يظل رئيس لما بعد كانون الثانى من دون اتفاق شامل كما فعل حسن شيخ و الحين قاعد يجني ثمار غلطته بلاش مكابرة دى حقائق لايمكن نكرانها :lol:

waxaa ka daran oo soo socda labo qodob Dani iyo Madoobe wataan oo ah inuusan waxna magacaabi karin waxna ka tuuri karin iyo in ciidamada iyo policeka laga dhigo non partisan. hada policeka waaba lagu bilaabay ayagaa ilaalinaya banaanbaxa sabtida laakin waa lagu sii tababarayaa ilaa doorashada ooy ilaalinayaan markaas magaca xukuumada kuma shaqaynayaan. haramcad iyi ciidan iyo waxaas dhan magaalooyinka waa laga saarayaa.

waxaa jira eray cusib oo ah dhiigbax siyaasadeed aniga markii hore feb 8 kadib hala dadajiyaan lahaa laakin hada waxaan taageersanahay in dib loodhigo doorashada xataa may or June waayo dhiigbaxa mooge ma sii soconayo bishaan kadib asagana extension uma aha maadaama aan la aqoonsanayn marka ayadoo wax walbe laga hoos bixiyay inay doorashada dhacdo ayaa nooga fiican intii ay naf ku jirto.

waxaan filaa tacsi gang inay kuu soo gyrmadaan without answers :russ:




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Postby sahal80 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:18 am

What is the opposition's plan? Just go ahead and have another election with PL/JL?
Long story short, Farmaajo wanted to rig the elections the same way Hirshabelle elections were rigged i say Hirshabelle not bc its my State but because it was used as a lab rat to figure out if they can repeat it in the federal elections by choosing paid malxiis presidential candidates "who will accept their defeat" like Geedi with NISA oversight and the new federal mps will go through scrutiny after they involve committes from the intelligence agencies in the process of tasking and lastly they gonna pay their elders and keep them in the hotels "until their mps gone through"

Farmaajo wanted "parliament" like this modeled after Hirshabelle parliament to vote for him but he was defeated politically already and wont be in charge of anything after february 8. we gonna have electoral independent bodies and National Consultative Forum from the FMS and the SFG led by the pm as Caretaker then we gonna have agreed upon elections. the door is open for Farmaajo "if he has popularity" but as expected will run to Qatar!

تريد الحكومة استنساخ تجربة الانتخابات الولائية وتطبيقها في الانتخابات الرئاسية المقررة، وفقا لتصريحات نائب رئيس الوزراء خضر جوليد، وذلك عن طريق السيطرة على أعضاء اللجنة الانتخابية التي عينها رئيس الوزراء مؤخرا، تليها عملية فرز المرشحين تحت إدارة وإشراف نائب مدير القصر الرئاسي عبد النور محمد لتشكيل قائمة من المرشحين البرلمانيين الموالين للرئيس فرماجو من جميع العشائر الصومالية. وهناك عدة معايير يعتمد عليها نائب مدير القصر الرئاسي لإختيار هذه القائمة منها ولاء المرشح للرئيس فرماجو، وتقديم ضمانات من زعماء عشيرته المعتمدين لدى رئاسة الجمهورية، بالإضافة إلى شهادة حسن السير والسلوك من الدوائر الأمنية.

وبعد ذلك تخطط الحكومة بالضغط على زعماء العشائر المخولين باختيار أعضاء البرلمان وإجبارهم على تمرير المرشحين الموالين للقصر الرئاسي لضمان فوز الرئيس فرماجو أصوات أعضاء البرلمان عشية الانتخابات

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The government wants to reproduce the state election experience and apply it to the scheduled presidential elections, according to the statements of Deputy Prime Minister Khader Guled, by controlling the members of the electoral commission recently appointed by the Prime Minister, followed by the process of screening candidates under the management and supervision of the Deputy Director of the Presidential Palace, Abdel Nour Mohamed, to form a list Among the parliamentary candidates loyal to President Farmajo from all the Somali clans. There are several criteria upon which the deputy director of the presidential palace relies on selecting this list, including the candidate’s loyalty to President Farmajo, and the provision of guarantees from his clan leaders accredited to the Presidency of the Republic, in addition to a certificate of good conduct from the security services.

After that, the government plans to pressure tribal leaders authorized to choose members of parliament and force them to pass candidates loyal to the presidential palace to ensure that President Farmajo wins the votes of members of Parliament on the eve of the elections.

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Re: Many got to the truth of the matter about the post- February 8 Farmaajo but does Suldan Order realize that?

Postby sahal80 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:46 am

Although Baghdad Sahal, ended up being wrong more times than we can count, I can’t lie he has an effective online military strategy :russ:


“The International Encyclopedia of the First World War defines attrition warfare as “the sustained process of wearing down an opponent so as to force their physical collapse through continuous losses in personnel, equipment and supplies or [wearing] them down to such an extent that their will to fight collapses.”
Bro instead of trolling Sahal. Answer his questions. Few days ago Voltage n Co was talking about how "US" are tired of calling for urgent meetings. Farmaajo called for a meeting last monday which was scheduled today with FMS. What happened? PL n JL said they support the continuation of talks between PM , Mog mayor, HS n opposition.

Omar finish, Guudlawe , PM n opposition have a meeting today.

So yes everybody is ignoring Farmaajo n he's isolated without allies. Even the Gareens have ditched him.
Guudlaawe xataa waa is hilmaamay sidii Rooble ula socdey kulan ganacsatada uu le yeeshay uu ka soo muuqdey. labadeenii Gareen waa ka soo hareen Mooge waxay rabaan in Rooble howsha la wareego si qarxiskii Deni uga badbaadaan :lol:

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Postby Murax » Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:38 am

[quote=Murax post_id=4994068 time=<a href="tel:1614850398">1614850398</a> user_id=143455]
Although Baghdad Sahal, ended up being wrong more times than we can count, I can’t lie he has an effective online military strategy :russ:


“The International Encyclopedia of the First World War defines attrition warfare as “the sustained process of wearing down an opponent so as to force their physical collapse through continuous losses in personnel, equipment and supplies or [wearing] them down to such an extent that their will to fight collapses.”
Bro instead of trolling Sahal. Answer his questions. Few days ago Voltage n Co was talking about how "US" are tired of calling for urgent meetings. Farmaajo called for a meeting last monday which was scheduled today with FMS. What happened? PL n JL said they support the continuation of talks between PM , Mog mayor, HS n opposition.

Omar finish, Guudlawe , PM n opposition have a meeting today.

So yes everybody is ignoring Farmaajo n he's isolated without allies. Even the Gareens have ditched him.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=<a href="tel:1902900243195069">1902900243195069</a>
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Lol Since you’re macquul I’ll have a macquul discussion. I will not with a straight face sit here and say Farmaajo, is winning and its all peaches, and roses. It is a stalemate, and nobody could say they are winning 100%. Why the hell would Laftagareen, QoorQoor, Guudlaawe come to a Shir if all the regional Presidents are there? Until Farmaajo could force Deni, Madoobes hands into attending the meetings which he so far has been unable to, there is no point for those guys to Waste their time. I don’t blame them.

-Post Feb 8th, the entire FGS, along with the Security apparatus recognize Farmaajo, and the FGS as President. There is no ‘duality, parallel process’ or as Sahal likes to say ‘Al Jazeera Government’. If the entire Hadaf of Madasha was to be able to do mudaaharaad @ Daljirka Dahsoon, nothing else then game over. But if I’m not mistaken their hadaf was a parallel process, where one of them is crowned so they will have to wait on taking the victory lap.


-As for Farmaajo, yes he has not been able to have a election process be agreed upon that he has led, and he does not so far have the power to grab the ones spoiling by the ear onto the table.


So it’s a stalemate, impasse we’ll have to just see what happens. You know I have no problem opening threads, taking a L but I will do it at it’s time, not to make people feel better :lol:

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Postby sahal80 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:00 am

[quote=Murax post_id=4994068 time=<a href="tel:1614850398">1614850398</a> user_id=143455]
Although Baghdad Sahal, ended up being wrong more times than we can count, I can’t lie he has an effective online military strategy :russ:


“The International Encyclopedia of the First World War defines attrition warfare as “the sustained process of wearing down an opponent so as to force their physical collapse through continuous losses in personnel, equipment and supplies or [wearing] them down to such an extent that their will to fight collapses.”
Bro instead of trolling Sahal. Answer his questions. Few days ago Voltage n Co was talking about how "US" are tired of calling for urgent meetings. Farmaajo called for a meeting last monday which was scheduled today with FMS. What happened? PL n JL said they support the continuation of talks between PM , Mog mayor, HS n opposition.

Omar finish, Guudlawe , PM n opposition have a meeting today.

So yes everybody is ignoring Farmaajo n he's isolated without allies. Even the Gareens have ditched him.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=<a href="tel:1902900243195069">1902900243195069</a>

Lol Since you’re macquul I’ll have a macquul discussion. I will not with a straight face sit here and say Farmaajo, is winning and its all peaches, and roses. It is a stalemate, and nobody could say they are winning 100%. Why the hell would Laftagareen, QoorQoor, Guudlaawe come to a Shir if all the regional Presidents are there? Until Farmaajo could force Deni, Madoobes hands into attending the meetings which he so far has been unable to, there is no point for those guys to Waste their time. I don’t blame them.

-Post Feb 8th, the entire FGS, along with the Security apparatus recognize Farmaajo, and the FGS as President. There is no ‘duality, parallel process’ or as Sahal likes to say ‘Al Jazeera Government’. If the entire Hadaf of Madasha was to be able to do mudaaharaad @ Daljirka Dahsoon, nothing else then game over. But if I’m not mistaken their hadaf was a parallel process, where one of them is crowned so they will have to wait on taking the victory lap.


-As for Farmaajo, yes he has not been able to have a election process be agreed upon that he has led, and he does not so far have the power to grab the ones spoiling by the ear onto the table.


So it’s a stalemate, impasse we’ll have to just see what happens. You know I have no problem opening threads, taking a L but I will do it at it’s time, not to make people feel better :lol:
[/quote]big development if Murax atleast admits it's jugjug meeshaada joog aka stalemate

however, Mooge suffers from bloodshot/Dhiigbax as long he is not recognized by PL and JL and the opposition we can impose Rooble as caretaker and for beesha caalamka Mooges legitimacy is contested by others

Villa Jazeera mission was to declare parallel elections if Mooge tries to go ahed with his Gareen elections so we have passed that stage we r now in the stage of "waa la siman yahay dalja sharciyad kama jirto" that why wiiftooyinka mooge aysan shaqayn. yay u daran tahay marka? asaga oo dawlada sheeganayay

the last battle is over Rooble and his Gareens!

waxaa kuu soo harey cardka securityga ayagana waa inoo shirka kadib markuu mooge officially laga gaar9 inuu waxba magacaabi karin waxana burin karin we will give you your time :up:

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Postby Murax » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:05 am

Sahal,

Akeed miya fil Miya it’s a stalemate. Heck you might even end up winning Allahu A’lam, lakin you’ll just have to wait to see how this plays out. Calayk Bi Sabar :lol:

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Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:20 am

[quote=Murax post_id=4994068 time=<a href="tel:1614850398">1614850398</a> user_id=143455]
Although Baghdad Sahal, ended up being wrong more times than we can count, I can’t lie he has an effective online military strategy :russ:


“The International Encyclopedia of the First World War defines attrition warfare as “the sustained process of wearing down an opponent so as to force their physical collapse through continuous losses in personnel, equipment and supplies or [wearing] them down to such an extent that their will to fight collapses.”
Bro instead of trolling Sahal. Answer his questions. Few days ago Voltage n Co was talking about how "US" are tired of calling for urgent meetings. Farmaajo called for a meeting last monday which was scheduled today with FMS. What happened? PL n JL said they support the continuation of talks between PM , Mog mayor, HS n opposition.

Omar finish, Guudlawe , PM n opposition have a meeting today.

So yes everybody is ignoring Farmaajo n he's isolated without allies. Even the Gareens have ditched him.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=<a href="tel:1902900243195069">1902900243195069</a>

Lol Since you’re macquul I’ll have a macquul discussion. I will not with a straight face sit here and say Farmaajo, is winning and its all peaches, and roses. It is a stalemate, and nobody could say they are winning 100%. Why the hell would Laftagareen, QoorQoor, Guudlaawe come to a Shir if all the regional Presidents are there? Until Farmaajo could force Deni, Madoobes hands into attending the meetings which he so far has been unable to, there is no point for those guys to Waste their time. I don’t blame them.

-Post Feb 8th, the entire FGS, along with the Security apparatus recognize Farmaajo, and the FGS as President. There is no ‘duality, parallel process’ or as Sahal likes to say ‘Al Jazeera Government’. If the entire Hadaf of Madasha was to be able to do mudaaharaad @ Daljirka Dahsoon, nothing else then game over. But if I’m not mistaken their hadaf was a parallel process, where one of them is crowned so they will have to wait on taking the victory lap.


-As for Farmaajo, yes he has not been able to have a election process be agreed upon that he has led, and he does not so far have the power to grab the ones spoiling by the ear onto the table.


So it’s a stalemate, impasse we’ll have to just see what happens. You know I have no problem opening threads, taking a L but I will do it at it’s time, not to make people feel better :lol:
[/quote]

Fair enough. We'll see but I agree with this man's analysis.

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Postby sahal80 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:25 am

Sahal,

Akeed miya fil Miya it’s a stalemate. Heck you might even end up winning Allahu A’lam.
:shock: Murax has finally came to his senses.
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Postby Murax » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:12 am

Lol, Sahal Sheekh contrary to what you might believe I’m not 100% Calaa Taraf. I try to assess the situation in real-time. Ciyaar waa gelin danbe we’ll have to see who wins last minute.

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Re: Many got to the truth of the matter about the post- February 8 Farmaajo but does Suldan Order realize that?

Postby SultanOrder » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:30 am

What murax said. Sahal you and guulwadayaasha are two sides of the same coin. Everything is all this or all that. You overestimate the opposition and they overestimate Farmaajo. You guys are not analysts but you guys see the world based on your preformed conclusions. Which is why you have these big moments of shock. Remember how many days you were gone after Feb 28 or when Khayre got fired? An analyst wouldn’t have reacted the way you did


My point in that Topic is Farmaajo is still the president whether you call him whatever you want won’t change what he is.


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