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1977; L'Unita, top Italian Newspaper: Emir Nur of Pure Marehan origins

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1977; L'Unita, top Italian Newspaper: Emir Nur of Pure Marehan origins

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Re: 1977; L'Unita, top Italian Newspaper: Emir Nur of Pure Marehan origins

Postby Gubbet » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:41 am

Also the journalist is famous for being the first international journalist to interview Fidel Castro after the Coup.

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Re: 1977; L'Unita, top Italian Newspaper: Emir Nur of Pure Marehan origins

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Re: 1977; L'Unita, top Italian Newspaper: Emir Nur of Pure Marehan origins

Postby DaahirMursal » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:57 pm

Interesting. :up:

Will look into this later to see if this is legit. :MJ:

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Re: 1977; L'Unita, top Italian Newspaper: Emir Nur of Pure Marehan origins

Postby Gubbet » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:14 am

Are you asking for a link since the citation is in the title (July 31st, 1977, L'Unita, Italy??

Here is a direct archival link of the page from the official website.

https://archivio.unita.news/assets/main ... ge_015.pdf

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Re: 1977; L'Unita, top Italian Newspaper: Emir Nur of Pure Marehan origins

Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:13 pm

Interesting. They keep referring to Geri as the most plausible clan of the Imam. The Italians anyways.

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Re: 1977; L'Unita, top Italian Newspaper: Emir Nur of Pure Marehan origins

Postby Gubbet » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:23 pm

It makes a lot of sense Saddam.

1. They always stress the difference between Ahmed Gurey theory and the Emir Nur "known." For example, in this report ghey stressed hr was "Pure" Marehan as in much lower ambiguity than Gurey.

2. Gurey is not definitively described nor uniqur claimed by one group---he is claimed by every group pretty much.

3. Not everyone is relevant to the history though. Geri Koombe are as important ad Marehan of the Somalis to this issue. I mean Marehan is not "more" important in this story. They literally both are equally thr most important Somali groups in thks story, follow4f H Makaadu, etc.

4. While Amin Nur married Gurey's wife, the Geri leader was married to Imam's sister! That is exceptionally as important as dumaal for deducing linkages.

5. Finally, the Geri had the best relationship out of the two with the Imam. I mean kf you look ay a scenerio like Farmaajo vs Janan, the central leader vs wily wilay, eccentric regional leader of their clan and the central leader having to go in and disclpline his clan behind him you can understand the possibilities but still the fact fhat Geri has a better relation is usuallh, but not always, the nest indicator for ties.

I would pick Gerri claim over anyone else too if I were an objective observer

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Re: 1977; L'Unita, top Italian Newspaper: Emir Nur of Pure Marehan origins

Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:20 am

It makes a lot of sense Saddam.

1. They always stress the difference between Ahmed Gurey theory and the Emir Nur "known." For example, in this report ghey stressed hr was "Pure" Marehan as in much lower ambiguity than Gurey.

2. Gurey is not definitively described nor uniqur claimed by one group---he is claimed by every group pretty much.

3. Not everyone is relevant to the history though. Geri Koombe are as important ad Marehan of the Somalis to this issue. I mean Marehan is not "more" important in this story. They literally both are equally thr most important Somali groups in thks story, follow4f H Makaadu, etc.

4. While Amin Nur married Gurey's wife, the Geri leader was married to Imam's sister! That is exceptionally as important as dumaal for deducing linkages.

5. Finally, the Geri had the best relationship out of the two with the Imam. I mean kf you look ay a scenerio like Farmaajo vs Janan, the central leader vs wily wilay, eccentric regional leader of their clan and the central leader having to go in and disclpline his clan behind him you can understand the possibilities but still the fact fhat Geri has a better relation is usuallh, but not always, the nest indicator for ties.

I would pick Gerri claim over anyone else too if I were an objective observer

Very salient points. I respect claims that is backed by contemporary records and oral tradition that match up. Geri and Marehan played the most significant roles in the saga alongside Jidwaaq as well. Thank you for sharing this with me my man. You taught me a lot.

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Re: 1977; L'Unita, top Italian Newspaper: Emir Nur of Pure Marehan origins

Postby Gubbet » Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:45 am

It makes a lot of sense Saddam.

1. They always stress the difference between Ahmed Gurey theory and the Emir Nur "known." For example, in this report ghey stressed hr was "Pure" Marehan as in much lower ambiguity than Gurey.

2. Gurey is not definitively described nor uniqur claimed by one group---he is claimed by every group pretty much.

3. Not everyone is relevant to the history though. Geri Koombe are as important ad Marehan of the Somalis to this issue. I mean Marehan is not "more" important in this story. They literally both are equally thr most important Somali groups in thks story, follow4f H Makaadu, etc.

4. While Amin Nur married Gurey's wife, the Geri leader was married to Imam's sister! That is exceptionally as important as dumaal for deducing linkages.

5. Finally, the Geri had the best relationship out of the two with the Imam. I mean kf you look ay a scenerio like Farmaajo vs Janan, the central leader vs wily wilay, eccentric regional leader of their clan and the central leader having to go in and disclpline his clan behind him you can understand the possibilities but still the fact fhat Geri has a better relation is usuallh, but not always, the nest indicator for ties.

I would pick Gerri claim over anyone else too if I were an objective observer

Very salient points. I respect claims that is backed by contemporary records and oral tradition that match up. Geri and Marehan played the most significant roles in the saga alongside Jidwaaq as well. Thank you for sharing this with me my man. You taught me a lot.
You are welcome my guy. Gaal dil gartiisana sii, laysma xasdo meeshaan. That's the difference between constructive, rational observation of history vs illogical, resentment based misuse of history.

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Re: 1977; L'Unita, top Italian Newspaper: Emir Nur of Pure Marehan origins

Postby XimanJaale » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:54 pm

Can you guys post sources that were produced before 1969. Some non-Marehans belief anything written after 1969 is fabricated. So for their sake just post something pre1969. Just saying

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Re: 1977; L'Unita, top Italian Newspaper: Emir Nur of Pure Marehan origins

Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:42 pm

Can you guys post sources that were produced before 1969. Some non-Marehans belief anything written after 1969 is fabricated. So for their sake just post something pre1969. Just saying

Here you go ina adeer.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... c57f0fece0

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=397325


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