deefow skirmish is the turning point for somali civil war

[GeoSeven]

What a crab bucket mentality. People want to build a bridge with their own xoog, sweat and they’re being attacked for it?! I’m glad they karbashed the aggressors. Good for them I say. Bad for Somalia we have retarded mofos.

The proposed bridge is actually a donor project by the IOM bro. Ironically spearheaded by a Hawadle if I am not mistaken. The proposed contractors are Hawadle and the individuals signing off on it are Hawadle. The location of the bridge is an arguing point and this in turn coupled with social media sensationalism is causing unfounded paranoia. Just look at the click bait title of the thread.

Most of the folks commenting bar Sahal have no clue what they are talking about.

[grandpakhalif]

It seems like Hiiraan is starting to have its own mini civil war where in marginalized clans are starting to hain alot of confidence. The Makanne are allies with the Dir tribe in Deefoow and have finally had enough. I fully support them in defeating the oppressors. Remember it was AS who enpowered these tribes and armed them against majoritybl tribes and now we are seeing the after affects. Beledweyne itself is heavily split on clan lines and seem to becoming the new Galkacyo. You have heavily armed Gugundhabe, Gaaljecel, Makanne Jareer and Xawaadle all competing for positions and resources. This city growing more and more diverse

[paperino]

It seems like Hiiraan is starting to have its own mini civil war where in marginalized clans are starting to hain alot of confidence. The Makanne are allies with the Dir tribe in Deefoow and have finally had enough. I fully support them in defeating the oppressors. Remember it was AS who enpowered these tribes and armed them against majoritybl tribes and now we are seeing the after affects. Beledweyne itself is heavily split on clan lines and seem to becoming the new Galkacyo. You have heavily armed Gugundhabe, Gaaljecel, Makanne Jareer and Xawaadle all competing for positions and resources. This city growing more and more diverse

Who are the oppressors, and why did they oppress fellow Muslims?

[Nomand]

i told yoo Xawaadle Supports Jijiile in this bc firstly Jijeele are their main ally against Gaaljecel. Gaaljecel brothers cant do shit in "the west" bc of Jijeele who r pro Hawadle but now things have changed bc of Fahad Yasiin and Reroow hassan who created something social media group called "Xaqsoor clans" only Sheekhal and Jareer stayed away from them some ex allies joined them. this is the reason why they gave the president seat to Abgaal using all these clans. some of them had close relations with Hawadle like udeejeen but ironically reerow hassan took their hirshabelle seat so most r shocked kkk

Jijeele is back now kkkkk

so they r reversing the situation and creating fearmongering on Jijeele. this is bigger than Deefow bigger than Hiiraan this is about Hirshabelle.

So what you are saying is xawaadle armed makaane but also armed and backed jijeele at the same time to fight against makaane?

So xawaadle are basically arming both sides and instigating war because according to you "xawaadle told jijeele to move and claim makaane villages"

This is a serious question how can you form a hiiraan state when you are seperating hiiraan into east and west then using one clan against another.

You are basically saying hiiraan should have natural Berlin Wall (shabeele River) and only xawaadle should have the keys.

It will be only a matter of time before makaane, jijeele, gaaljecel and dir form an alliance against you.

[Gubbet]

What a crab bucket mentality. People want to build a bridge with their own xoog, sweat and they’re being attacked for it?! I’m glad they karbashed the aggressors. Good for them I say. Bad for Somalia we have retarded mofos.

The proposed bridge is actually a donor project by the IOM bro. Ironically spearheaded by a Hawadle if I am not mistaken. The proposed contractors are Hawadle and the individuals signing off on it are Hawadle. The location of the bridge is an arguing point and this in turn coupled with social media sensationalism is causing unfounded paranoia. Just look at the click bait title of the thread.

Most of the folks commenting bar Sahal have no clue what they are talking about.

Geo, are you implicitly casting aspersions to "facts" I stated about the area's history in response to a claim?

If you are, I have already displayed reference for them on the forum.

[sahal80]

keep trolling.

pointgaaga wuxuu ahaa jareer aa xoog leh waxaan ku dhahay waxba ma ogid dadkaan waxaa lagu hubeeyay hirshabelle hadana markeey meel qalad ah la,aadeen waa laga hortagey hadana labada beelood ayaa shirar nabadey ah u socdaan in la joojiyo buundada inkastoo qalabkii lagala wareegay qolyihii NGOda oo Hawadle ah taas macnaheeda maaha inay beesha ma talaan side Geo sheegay waa niman gobolka ka howlaga deefow iyo kabhanleyna waxaa laga wadaa mashaariic dibudegin ah laakiin liiqliiqato ah ay rabaan buundo baabuur marto inay ka sameeyaan ooy ku xiraan galbeedka mustaxiil. ka waran hadii liyu police tuulooyinkeena gadaal ka soo galo? xiligaan ma dhici karto buundo baabur marto oo waxaan la aqoon soo galaan.

aniga hada hirshabelle kama soo horjeedo laakin waxaan ka hadlayaa sida beesheyda ula dhaqanto.

hubkaan waxaa la siyay jareer against Hirshabelle in the west, Jijeele iyo Hawadle waxaa ka dhaxeeya sugida aminga labada dhinac hadeey tahay shabaab iyo faqayasha markey ayaga iyo jareertii isku dhaceena waa kala dhexgalnay. how isku dirdir?

Hawadle meel ay joogin ay saas umaamulaan adinkana dhexdiina isma maamuli kartaan ilaa hada ciidankii janan iyo kuwii hore waa la isku dari la,yahay markuu farmaajo baxana they will be back to square one!

laahin hawadle hiiraan dawlad ayuu ka sameeyay oo dhulka beelaha kale ayaga uu midba gooni ula dhaqmo







gudoomiyaha howlwadaag oo jareer ah waxaa magacaabay gudoomiyaha hiiraan wuxuu leeyahay gaaljecelkaan degmada maamula sadexda xaafad oo Xawaadle kuma dhaco laakiin kan howlwadaag uu dhibaa.



balad al nuur meesha hada jijeele iyo jareer ku dagaalameen waa tuuladii lagu hubeeyay hirshabelle. websitekaan waa bug ayaga la iska dhigayo. anti hirshabelle balad nuur



Jareer nabadoon in balad nuur the man who received hubka




jareer vs jijeele baladnuur. meeshaas ha iga harto jareer baa awood yeelatey! kkk

[Gubbet]

Ilaahayow dadkaas kala qabo. Aamiin.

[Mustafee101]

Wtf is Jijeele and Makane damn no wonder the south is such a mess !!!

[Nomand]

heavy fighting resumed yesterday

this time in Bacaad-buuko which is 10km north of beledweyne so beesha makane have successfully defended and defeated jijeele in deefow which is 25km north of beledweyne.

https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2021/May/w ... aantaFront

Isniin, May, 17, 2021 (HOL) - Warar dheeraad ah ayaa kasoo baxaya dagaal faraha looga gubtay oo maanta ka dhacay deegaano dhowr ah oo ku yaala duleedka magaalada Baledweyne.

Dagaalka ayaa u dhaxeeyay lab Maleeshiyo beeleed oo walaalo ah kuwaas oo horay ugu dagaalamay deegaanada aay maanta markale dirirtu ku dhexmartay.

Dagaalka maanta ayaa inta la xaqiijiyay waxaa ku dhintay ilaa 6 ruux oo kala ah dhinacyada uu dagaalka u dhaxeeyay, waxaana ku dhaawacmay tiro intaasi ka badan.

Dagaalka ayaa mudadii uu socday waxaa labada Maleeshiyo beeleed aay kala gubeen guryo ku yaala deegaanada aay maanta ku dagaalameen oo kala ahaa Baladu-nuur, Bacaad buuke, Buulo-kaahin Dharkeynta iyo deegaano kale oo dhamaantood ah deegaano ku yaala jiinka wabiga Shabeelle.

Weerarka maanta dhexmaray labada Meleeshiyo beeleed ayaa imaanaya, iyadoo muddo ku dhaw hal todobaad shir lagu heshiisiinaayo labada dhinac uu ka socday magaalada Baledweyne, waxaana dagaalka maanta dib u bilaawday walaac ka muujiyay qeybaha kala duwan ee bulshada ku nool magaalada Baledweyne.

[sahal80]

Jareertii hada Hawadle ay ku soo careen ooy magan u yihiin masaakiinta qoryaha waa laga soo ceshanaa


Hawadle asagoo hal Xabad ah ridin ay "xaqsoor clans" burburiyeen hada jiidle iyo reer baare ay mareysaa qalaafe iyo mustaxiil dhexdeeda waa xaqsoorka la sheegayo oon hiiraan degin. anaga Dagaal marabno laakin waxay ku tisnee ninka dadkaan kala haayey hadey gacantii raxmada qaniinaa cadaab ay ku badalanayaa marabo inaan ku qoslo laakin idaacadaha ay nagu waaleen ayagoo saas ah hadana hal meel laisugu geeyay oo dhibkooda na soo gaareyn.

fahad yaasiin iyo Mooge dhul aysan aqoon ay faraha la soo galeen waana uga gubteen.

[Nomand]

what does xawaadle gain from makane and jijeele fighting other then the bridge not being build? you cant change demographics and you cant ethnically cleanse anyone.

Makane will stay and fight for their land, jijeele is in the wrong here those towns are makane towns which are on the riverbank they are farming towns. Makane is heavily armed and are willing to die for their land.