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Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

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Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

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Re: Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

Postby NGM » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:58 am

Why does this not surprise me there are Hawrarsame in Dhegaxbuur as well, they are scattered all over Somali lands, where is Dacare on google maps, horta they don't look like their zanzibarian neighbors.

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Re: Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

Postby Gubbet » Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:31 am

What was it that Marehan always said? Hawlraarsame did not all accept the penalty. A large number moved to go live with Majeerteen. The term "u galay" has clear formed new Xeer with implications.

Have you ever noticed that Hawlraarsame Saleebaan buu ukala baxaa and the northeastern lineage system is really sparked by, including the beginning of the traditional leadership of the clan, by the emergence of Saleebaan proliferation?

I just find it interesting because at least according to Marehan oral history, the part about am aspect of Hawlraarsame going to live with Majeerteen has been historically proven by earlier travelors like Revoil and D'abaddie who all document Hawlraarsame living with Majerten.

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Re: Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

Postby Gubbet » Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:42 am

It sort of seems like I have sourcing for pretty much every Marehan historical issue now. It is why I think I should have already started a repository or database any Marehan can access to look through but that takes specific technical know how and infrastructure I don't have it.

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Re: Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

Postby NGM » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:16 am

Yeah Howararsame have Maxamuud Saleebaan :? imagine the dhaboyaco are just pissed off Howrarsame :lol:

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Re: Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:34 pm

Yeah Howararsame have Maxamuud Saleebaan :? imagine the dhaboyaco are just pissed off Howrarsame :lol:
I been suspected that and I told Voltage of my suspicions. It makes perfect sense why they have cuqdad for us. It’s literally mind blowing.

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Re: Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

Postby Gubbet » Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:08 pm

You guys remind me of my old rer Axmed informent; the almost 100 year old ayeeyo who once told me "ayeeyo inaan barakaysanahay Qur'aankaa ku tusayo, AR-RAXMAAN iyo MA-RAXMAAN maxsy kala yihiin, Ilaahaa na barakeeyey. " :lol:

Well another thought she shared in the course of conversation while talking about the Mohamed Da'ud death, the charge against Hawlraarsame, and the punishment was how Mareexaan "knows" not all Hawlraarsame accepted the punishment, in fact there were some that bitterly escaped off (and why wouldn't they honestly considering the extreme punishment) and joined many different Somali groups."

Then she added "the people that HATE Mareexaan the most in a number of clans, including Northeast and the Shabelle Valley waa nimankii waagii carro la tagay. "

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Re: Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

Postby Halmogg » Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:43 pm

There are no marexaans in nugaal smh. Apart from the wagardhac in Saaxo mudug, I don’t think we ever come across the tiny tooth community anywhere else.

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Re: Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

Postby grandpakhalif » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:01 pm

Wow! Hawraarsame have a degaan in Nugaal? Amazing! Didnt know that

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Re: Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

Postby Khalid Ali » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:43 pm

Aren't they like midgaan howrsame and habar yacquub

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Re: Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

Postby Gubbet » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:39 pm

Aren't they like midgaan howrsame and habar yacquub
Eedadaa s.iilkeedaa ah. :D

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Re: Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:20 am

You guys remind me of my old rer Axmed informent; the almost 100 year old ayeeyo who once told me "ayeeyo inaan barakaysanahay Qur'aankaa ku tusayo, AR-RAXMAAN iyo MA-RAXMAAN maxsy kala yihiin, Ilaahaa na barakeeyey. " :lol:

Well another thought she shared in the course of conversation while talking about the Mohamed Da'ud death, the charge against Hawlraarsame, and the punishment was how Mareexaan "knows" not all Hawlraarsame accepted the punishment, in fact there were some that bitterly escaped off (and why wouldn't they honestly considering the extreme punishment) and joined many different Somali groups."

Then she added "the people that HATE Mareexaan the most in a number of clans, including Northeast and the Shabelle Valley waa nimankii waagii carro la tagay. "
You know I don’t know tbf. I’m ignorant on Boqor Maxamed Daud and oral tradition. God honest truth

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Re: Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

Postby NGM » Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:17 am

You guys remind me of my old rer Axmed informent; the almost 100 year old ayeeyo who once told me "ayeeyo inaan barakaysanahay Qur'aankaa ku tusayo, AR-RAXMAAN iyo MA-RAXMAAN maxsy kala yihiin, Ilaahaa na barakeeyey. " :lol:

Well another thought she shared in the course of conversation while talking about the Mohamed Da'ud death, the charge against Hawlraarsame, and the punishment was how Mareexaan "knows" not all Hawlraarsame accepted the punishment, in fact there were some that bitterly escaped off (and why wouldn't they honestly considering the extreme punishment) and joined many different Somali groups."

Then she added "the people that HATE Mareexaan the most in a number of clans, including Northeast and the Shabelle Valley waa nimankii waagii carro la tagay. "
Damn that history is just sad, imagine paying the mag of a king despite not having killed him, and then on top of that getting attacked by all MX and then excommunicated. I believe it was just down to jealousy since Howrarsame were the richest and most powerful among MX at that time.

Cuquboto ku socoto MX, I say watch out for .5 clans, OG and MJ in particular. :lol:

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Re: Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

Postby NGM » Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:33 am

Aren't they like midgaan howrsame and habar yacquub
Midgaan is someone of unknown origin, Howrarsame was excommunicated for a period, Habar Yacquub some who were intermarried with them Howrarsame were excommunicated and some were not, they are called Fiqi Yacquub in Central Somalia and Habar Yacquub in Gedo, the latter is t he excommunicated one due to marriage to Howrarsame. At the end of the day, the excommunication is lifted and these are all MX origin.

in my eyes you are the midgaan more than they are :)

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Re: Dacare, Dooxada Nugaal - the most northern Mareexaan town?

Postby mahoka » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:05 am

Aren't they like midgaan howrsame and habar yacquub
Midgaan is someone of unknown origin, Howrarsame was excommunicated for a period, Habar Yacquub some who were intermarried with them Howrarsame were excommunicated and some were not, they are called Fiqi Yacquub in Central Somalia and Habar Yacquub in Gedo, the latter is t he excommunicated one due to marriage to Howrarsame. At the end of the day, the excommunication is lifted and these are all MX origin.

in my eyes you are the midgaan more than they are :)
That’s rather a long way of saying they are midgaans


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