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Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

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Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby SultanOrder » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:17 pm

This needed a topic. :dwill:
There is something odd about this whole situation in Eastern Galmudug that makes you question if there is something more than Shabab in the conflict.

Like someone said, the area ia geographically the least hospitable of Somalia for an insurgency. It is completely flat terrain so flat it doesn't even undulate like Western Galmudug. It is the most sparsely covered by any type of vegetation in the country. It has no rivers, lakes, ponds, and no natural food producing ecosystem. On top of that it has extremely low population density and has very low diversity of clans and social groups. It is primarily Habar Gidir, of Sacad and Saleebaan, alobg with Dir and Sheekhaal.

There is more ro this story than meets the eye.
Most of the locals in Eastern Galgadud support Shabab such as Abgaal (Wecesly) Murusade and just recently the Qubeys Dir Subclan. The Galmudug and SNa forces are basically Sacad and Saleebaan against Shabab and their allies. Some conspiracy theorists like Dahir Alasow claiming Qoor Qoor is sending Sacad militas to fight Shabab as an excuse to get rid of opposition
You touched on my fears. Is this really just clan warfare at an intricate scale with many unseen layers? I just can't see where Al Shabab can hide or rest or stage attacks from. I am even more confused if Shabab was Dir/Wacaysle/Murusade and SNA was HG. It is impossible in Mudug for a clan outside of the area to just be riding around in another clan's area. Again, that is because of the geography. Every possible feature to even exist as a force on the ground is already occupied mostly because of how limited they are to begin with. It is not the bushland of Jubba and Shabelle. It is Mudug. Someone can see you walking towards them a 100 miles away and if they didn't, at least 101 calls will come in from your nomad cousins giving you head's up someone is headed towards you. :lol:

Anyways I asked Voltage for input and this was his response;

You are right to be suspicious. I would not be surprised if this was a political battle for resources within HG. It could even be more like a quiet battle for semi-permanent supremacy within HG is the aim to achieve a clear, definite, stable hierarchy.

Cayr was broken by Farmajo disarming Ahlu Sunnah. Also Cayr is the most vulnerable member of HG. Cayr is surrounded by Marehan on the NW/SW axis, Wacaysle/Murusade/Al Shabab in Elbur, and permanent conflict with Hawadle in the south (Matabaan). These guys are out for the battle of #1 in HG. They are not in the competition at all and have not been since Abdullahi Yusuf and even they know it.

Galmudug was started by Sacad. Saleebaan in competition started Himan/Heeb. To unite, Galmudug had to move to Adado. But when Galmudug finally moved to Dusamareb, Saleebaan were compensated with Presidency. It was the 1st time Galmudug had a non-Sacad President. No one appreciates it, but that was the single biggest disruption in HG since Aideed vs Caato and even that was within Sacad. There has never existed in memorable or even oral Somali history, where the highest political leader of something equally representing all 3 major HG clans was not a Sacad. Saleebaan has led something in Saleebaan's name,but never in the name of "HG" has there been any other leader but Sacad. The disruption was even more significant that it was Saleebaan and not even Cayr, whom Sacad feared more as a replacement. This was equally informing to Sacad and Saleebaan or basically the more resentful or disempowering Sacad felt, equally Saleebaan was inversely more confident and empowered. That plus the investment In Adado as temporary capital of Galmudug in the long standoff with Ahlu Sunnah was mutually reinforcing for the new ambitious Saleebaan.

I think that event was trigger A.

The last few years there was open conflict between Sacad and Wagarda/Marehan. The western border of Mudug went from a quiet, forced salemate since the 90's to fire and brimstone and the worst conflict north of Hiiraan in decades. Sacad basically lost the forced stalemate that was in their favor inherited through Aidid and USC actions in the 90's. Not only did they no longer have the access to grazing in parts of the rich grazing west of the North/South highway, but just as significantly there was no longer peace on their most vulnerable front. By virtue of conflict, you have to move back from the fault line. Sacad that used to look West for grazing/seasonal migration had to go back to looking East towards the coast as the standard for the first time since 90"s. Well, all those two decades they were seasonally migrating West, Saleebaan had moved in to take the routes they no longer used. This coincided with almost overnight post-civil war Somali development of "settlement/settling." So it is no longer just pressure on grazing routes that is caused by Sacad's new reality, but really it is now about deegaan and that comes into the political competition between Sacad and Saleebaan. All the way to the town of Hobyo, this is a faultline.

I think this situation is trigger B.

The port of Hobyo is being built after years and years of talking about it. Well moving from talk to building also came with a change from a community-informed way of looking at it one about competition with the entrance of money and greed.Who stands to benefit? Who is going to control logistics? Who is going to be supplying services in demand? Who will even be gaining from controlling routing stations and access points? Camaara is the biggest settlement between Hobyo and all the rest of the major towns and economic heart of Galmudug. Camaara is also ground zero in the intersection of the clan grazing and settlement right at the faultline outside Hobyo.

I think this development is Trigger 3



Let us look at the area in question;


  1. This is the route between Hobyo and all the rest major towns and economic heart of Galmudug. Notice where Camaara is.


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  2. This is the political/administrative map of Galmudug with the clan boundary ("faultline") between Sacad and Saleebaan transposed over the Hobyo District which includes Hobyo and Camaara.


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  3. This is a transposition of the clan, geography, and economy for the same area.


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    The result is called a "nexus."

    The presence of a nexus is a primary indicator of what is the true "genesis" of a conflict.

    Your suspicion that there might be more to this story than "Shabaab" is not without merit.
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Re: Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby Mustafee101 » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:47 pm

So basically it is inter-Hutu war ?

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Re: Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby Phinks » Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:43 am

Voltage should come back, his insights are valuable and unique in perspective. :up:

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Re: Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby grandpakhalif » Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:46 am

We miss these type of analysis which is worthy of payment

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Re: Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby somaliforums » Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:01 am

Voltage has been giving us inside analysis of very complicated situations but some folks up here were always looking at him as if he was taking shots at their tribes.

Give the guy is due credits and take his analysis with an open mind. I for sure loved his take on many situations.

Voltage, if you reading this, I thank you for taking your precious time to bring us awareness to our history, political instabilities and taking our cheap shots with a grain of salt.

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Re: Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby Phinks » Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:42 am

Grandpa and Somaliforums, sad to see him go, his posts have been illuminating and really get you thinking. The forum has taken a nosedive in terms of quality, now its just elections and which clan xasuuqed the other.

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Re: Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby Northkil » Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:58 am

Voltage should come back, his insights are valuable and unique in perspective. :up:
Facts.
@SultanOrder thanks for sharing :up:

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Re: Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby Rebelxx22 » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:33 am

What Gubbet said is the most dumbest shit I’ve heard

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Re: Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby somaliforums » Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:03 pm

What Gubbet said is the most dumbest shit I’ve heard
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Instead of taking a cheap shot at Voltage, come up with your own take on this.

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Re: Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby SultanOrder » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:31 am

It was never about Shabaab, Voltage was correct.

In Amara, Sacad was mortally wounded..

In Guriceel, the carcass of Cayr is being definitively buried.

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Re: Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby Murax » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:46 am

Voltage is a frigging legend. LOL @ people thinking this is an ‘Aqeedah War’. This is a inter Qabil war, with Deen being sprinkled in. No wonder people hate him, because he speaks facts.

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Re: Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:06 am

Voltage is a frigging legend. LOL @ people thinking this is an ‘Aqeedah War’. This is a inter Qabil war, with Deen being sprinkled in. No wonder people hate him, because he speaks facts.
Why are dawlada part of this inter qabiil war then?

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Re: Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby Murax » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:15 am

Voltage is a frigging legend. LOL @ people thinking this is an ‘Aqeedah War’. This is a inter Qabil war, with Deen being sprinkled in. No wonder people hate him, because he speaks facts.
Why are dawlada part of this inter qabiil war then?

Ahlu Sunnah is a Non State Actor, hate it or love it QoorQoor IS a State Actor as Galmudug State. Ahlu Sunnah did not come into Guricel with any sort of legitimacy besides exploiting Qabil. Difference.

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Re: Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:47 am

Voltage is a frigging legend. LOL @ people thinking this is an ‘Aqeedah War’. This is a inter Qabil war, with Deen being sprinkled in. No wonder people hate him, because he speaks facts.
Why are dawlada part of this inter qabiil war then?

Ahlu Sunnah is a Non State Actor, hate it or love it QoorQoor IS a State Actor as Galmudug State. Ahlu Sunnah did not come into Guricel with any sort of legitimacy besides exploiting Qabil. Difference.
A non state actor that could have been used in the war against Al shabab. Don't get me wrong bro. I don't support Ahlu Sunnah but fighting them was not the best option. QoorQoor should have sat down with them. Waxkasta wadahadal waa lagt dhameeyn karaa. All these 4 years the priorities was completely wrong. We have one enemy Shabab and I have not a seen an active campaign against them.

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Re: Amara/Galmudug fighting may not be about Al Shabab says Voltage.

Postby Kees70 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:40 am



Why are dawlada part of this inter qabiil war then?

Ahlu Sunnah is a Non State Actor, hate it or love it QoorQoor IS a State Actor as Galmudug State. Ahlu Sunnah did not come into Guricel with any sort of legitimacy besides exploiting Qabil. Difference.
A non state actor that could have been used in the war against Al shabab. Don't get me wrong bro. I don't support Ahlu Sunnah but fighting them was not the best option. QoorQoor should have sat down with them. Waxkasta wadahadal waa lagt dhameeyn karaa. All these 4 years the priorities was completely wrong. We have one enemy Shabab and I have not a seen an active campaign against them.
Sit with the Terrorist aswj kulaha sxbkeen Abkoowe kkkk :lol:

Sxb you being a non Galmudugian I advice Inaad ka baxtid arrimaheenna, do you see us HG talking about Hirshabelle affair or the abgaal isbaaro war Saneey iyo xadoole just had, no right?

So Fadlan haa is ceebeyiin and stay of HG/GM affairs your sympathy for the Terrorists shiicada aswj is unwarranted.

Halyeey President Qoor Qoor has the full backing of all Reer GMs and should finish off these foreign backed Terrorists aswj.

Guul Qoor Qoor and Guul Farmaajo iyo Rooble for supporting Galmudug war on the Terrorists aswj.

It's funny seeing all Abgaals supporting aswj as a way to hurt HG/GM :lol:


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