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HSM Gave One Of The Best Speeches Ever

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HSM Gave One Of The Best Speeches Ever

Postby Murax » Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:18 am

Hit on all the major points, however what does it mean? Absolutely jack in my opinion.


The counter narrative to Al Shaydaan has to have the approach of Nation State, utilizing a national Army. The most idiotic approach is arming clans who will only up turning on each other even if part of the same larger umbrella group (Hawiye).


HSM has proven time, and time again he will not invest money into building an army, but will do whatever is cheapest so be could pocket the rest. Why bring 5,000 highly trained troops from Eritrea, spend money on troop deployments to the frontlines. when I could just throw some arms at Geeljire and say fight. Any Gov serious about fighting Al Shaydaan will fight them conveniently using official SNA, followed by some Governmental effort to quickly win the hearts and minds of the liberated population.

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Re: HSM Gave One Of The Best Speeches Ever

Postby sahal80 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:28 am

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Ciidanka iyo qabiilada ayaa iskaashanaya ee ciidanka lagama taqalusayo waa sababta ciidanka Amisom ugu baahneen hada for tribal support.

arintaan waxaa ku guuleystey Egypt waliba waxaa la siiyaa hub fiican iyo gaadiid dagaal halka anaga rasaas bas la leeyahay. the plan is this: Reer Hiiraan ayaa xoreynaya dhulkooda, Reer galgaduud iyo mudug ayagaa xoreynaya dhulkooda, reer shabeelada dhexe ayagaa xoreyna dhulkooda with the help of ciidanka federalka. waxaa jabeysa cabsida Al Shabaab laga qabo, Lacag lama siinayo waayo miyiga ay ka talin jireen waxaa la wareegaya qabiilada hubeysan oo ku difaacaya hada dawlad kuma ilaalin karto. post-Al Shabaab waa arin kale
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Same thing in Hiiraan

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Re: HSM Gave One Of The Best Speeches Ever

Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:09 pm

Hit on all the major points, however what does it mean? Absolutely jack in my opinion.


The counter narrative to Al Shaydaan has to have the approach of Nation State, utilizing a national Army. The most idiotic approach is arming clans who will only up turning on each other even if part of the same larger umbrella group (Hawiye).


HSM has proven time, and time again he will not invest money into building an army, but will do whatever is cheapest so be could pocket the rest. Why bring 5,000 highly trained troops from Eritrea, spend money on troop deployments to the frontlines. when I could just throw some arms at Geeljire and say fight. Any Gov serious about fighting Al Shaydaan will fight them conveniently using official SNA, followed by some Governmental effort to quickly win the hearts and minds of the liberated population.
Man talks good but is a total corrupt loser

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Re: HSM Gave One Of The Best Speeches Ever

Postby original dervish » Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:45 pm

You gotta take your hat off to hsm.
He has a vision and plan to extract as much money/ aid from abroad as possible.

Everything he does is geared towards foreign donors.
He has assembled a Somali equivalent of Oceans 11 as his govt. Each member is a specialist in the fields of fraud, embezzlement, laundering, etc.

The one good thing that is hampering the hsm heist is that the donors saw him coming a mile off. They won't even meet him in Xalane anymore.

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Re: HSM Gave One Of The Best Speeches Ever

Postby original dervish » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:55 pm

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Re: HSM Gave One Of The Best Speeches Ever

Postby Murax » Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:42 am

You gotta take your hat off to hsm.
He has a vision and plan to extract as much money/ aid from abroad as possible.

Everything he does is geared towards foreign donors.
He has assembled a Somali equivalent of Oceans 11 as his govt. Each member is a specialist in the fields of fraud, embezzlement, laundering, etc.

The one good thing that is hampering the hsm heist is that the donors saw him coming a mile off. They won't even meet him in Xalane anymore.

Here’s the thing though Xalane loves XSM. XSM himself cannot come to Xalane without invitation. Between the bullshyt fake airstrikes that never take out more than junior AS officers and the other BS, I just wish Xalane would complete whatever their ambition is with Somalia. We don’t mind being the quite unquote B like most 3rd world countries. At least we’d be stable.

I feel like Somalia is a low priority project experiencing major delays due to poor project management by Xalane. Get on with it.

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Postby original dervish » Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:14 am

I have often wondered the same thing.
The problem is there is no real southern politicians they can work with. None of them have ambition greater than a few Millions and homes abroad.

If we had a half decent govt that could govern to the level of your typical African shi t hole we'd be good.

The only silver lining is that the west will soon be starving for gas.......the price has already gone through the roof. Hopefully western oil companies will invest. Only then will they take out AS.

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Re: HSM Gave One Of The Best Speeches Ever

Postby Nomand » Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:45 am

You gotta take your hat off to hsm.
He has a vision and plan to extract as much money/ aid from abroad as possible.

Everything he does is geared towards foreign donors.
He has assembled a Somali equivalent of Oceans 11 as his govt. Each member is a specialist in the fields of fraud, embezzlement, laundering, etc.

The one good thing that is hampering the hsm heist is that the donors saw him coming a mile off. They won't even meet him in Xalane anymore.
The donor countries don't really know how their money is spent. The people in xalane who are their eyes and ears love HSM as he divides the money with them.

Do you really think the chancellor of uk or finance minister in USA care where 10 million is spent in somalia. They have more things to worry about.

So it is actually an environment created by somalia mafia like hassan sheikh ,xalane mafia like Kate Foster and James Swan and ngo mafia.

They can basically steal money without any accountability.

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Re: HSM Gave One Of The Best Speeches Ever

Postby Murax » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:22 am

Xalane have their own VIP terminal at the airport they don’t answer to Somali custom agents. They can bring any illegal contraband they want, they have access to private beach, alcohol, sex. As if that is not enough they fly first class, with extremely high salaries. Xalane are the biggest beneficiaries of the status quo, followed by AMISOM, followed Somali corrupt politician dogs, followed by Al Shaydaan. Everybody else are losers.


My Aunt worked for an aid agency going back and forth between Somalia. She wouldn’t sign anything without receipts and supporting documentation. They would attempt to go around her, and when they couldn’t they’d be furious. It got to the point where she literally feared for her life, and had trouble sleeping at night.

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Postby original dervish » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:30 am

It's clear the southern Somali people are captive to the circumstances you've elucidated.

The most immediate threat is AS terrorising the rural area.
I'm hopeful JL and SW state can coordinate their offensives to attack AS from both directions to form a pincer movement/ cauldron.

If AS can be eliminated from. JL/ SW it will be a tremendous victory.

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Re: HSM Gave One Of The Best Speeches Ever

Postby Nomand » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:41 am

It's clear the southern Somali people are captive to the circumstances you've elucidated.

The most immediate threat is AS terrorising the rural area.
I'm hopeful JL and SW state can coordinate their offensives to attack AS from both directions to form a pincer movement/ cauldron.

If AS can be eliminated from. JL/ SW it will be a tremendous victory.
Your disingenuous. Kulaha madoobe eliminate al shabab. It is like asking trump to eliminate MAGA.

Abaaha al shabaab waa Shaydaan madoobe.

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Re: HSM Gave One Of The Best Speeches Ever

Postby Nomand » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:43 am

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Xalane have their own VIP terminal at the airport they don’t answer to Somali custom agents. They can bring any illegal contraband they want, they have access to private beach, alcohol, sex. As if that is not enough they fly first class, with extremely high salaries. Xalane are the biggest beneficiaries of the status quo, followed by AMISOM, followed Somali corrupt politician dogs, followed by Al Shaydaan. Everybody else are losers.


My Aunt worked for an aid agency going back and forth between Somalia. She wouldn’t sign anything without receipts and supporting documentation. They would attempt to go around her, and when they couldn’t they’d be furious. It got to the point where she literally feared for her life, and had trouble sleeping at night.
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NGO work in somalia it is very difficult to guard yourself from xaram. It is good yout aunt got out.

What I don't understand is why did farmaajo name two ngo prime ministers when everyone knows about the tuugnimo of NGO's. Odaygaa had bad advisors.
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Re: HSM Gave One Of The Best Speeches Ever

Postby original dervish » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:49 am

Brah.....take your tribal glasses off for a minute.
We all know Madoobe's shifting alliances over the years.
We also know your General McAuthur, Barre Hiraale had a security pact with AS the last time he attempted to conquer Kismayo.

Times change.....today Madoobe is against AS and will soon launch an offensive against them aimed at destroying their strongholds in Middle Juba.

You should use this opportunity to rid Gedo of the terrorists who've been causing mayhem for years.

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Postby AmericanShoeStores » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:53 am

HASAN IS DOING GOOD JOB THE LOSERS OF FATMAJO BIDAAR BOY ARE MAD ABOUT THE ELECTION THE MAN WAS INSECURE ABOUT BIDAAR HE CANT LEAD NATION IF HE CANT LOOK AT THE MIRROR

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Re: HSM Gave One Of The Best Speeches Ever

Postby Nomand » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:55 am

Brah.....take your tribal glasses off for a minute.
We all know Madoobe's shifting alliances over the years.
We also know your General McAuthur, Barre Hiraale had a security pact with AS the last time he attempted to conquer Kismayo.

Times change.....today Madoobe is against AS and will soon launch an offensive against them aimed at destroying their strongholds in Middle Juba.

You should use this opportunity to rid Gedo of the terrorists who've been causing mayhem for years.
Everyone can say verbal diarrhea, what is needed is evidence. You got an obsession with barre hiiraale. Did you go to barre hiiraale with your idea of stealing Banju islands. Did he refuse your idea? Is that why you got it in for him?

Anyway stating facts is not qabaaylad. And fighting against al shabaab means fighting against madoobe.

If you support madoobe then you support al shabaab it is that simple.


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