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Lower Your Gays

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby Koronto91 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:47 pm

Anyone who wants to know the origin of homosexuality and its dire consequences, should listen to this lecture which discusses the fate of the people of Sodomy & Gamora during Nabi Lut's time (as).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUXS3UJJJ8k


According to the Prophet (saw): "Homosexuality was an act learned from the devils, which at point in time were visible to humans." Its a major sin and anyone found guilty of this lewd act is to be stoned to death, however it does not make a murtad out of someone.

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby Basra- » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:51 pm

"If khanisnimo is a biological disorder, how can it be haram?


Rebel-lion, It is Haram because it is not natural.Its like adultry or stealing or drinking alcohol, its all haram. The natural thing is obvious- adam and eve, not adam and steve.But Just like deaf people, blind people, retarded people --are created, it doesn;t mean they are wrong.It means they exist and we should learn from their existance.Gays is a biological error. If u want deep analysis of khaniisniimo--i would say it was created to control population. Imagine all gays in history breeding more humans into this world?? It would be like the chinese in the subway situation! lol :)







Enlighten sista why is my sexuality important to u?? U retarded little genetically challenged idiot! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby Cali_Gaab » Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:42 am

What defines you as being khaniis.

Having homosexual thoughts
Staring at men with lust
Having physical contact with men in an sexual way

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby Madd_Scientist_ » Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:23 am

"ITS LIKE THAT EGYPTIAN SHEIKH THAT COUPLE DAYS AGO SAID A SMALL AMOUNT OF BOOZE IS NOT HARRAM."- King Awdal

Yeah i've heard something like that as well, their justification was that anything that intoxicates your body and mind is haram- Alcohol in large amounts does intoxicate you however in smaller amounts (say a sip or two) it doesn't. When smaoking cigarettes your mind is still 100% functioning and some people use that as a justification to say that smoking is not haram....

Don't smoke or drink i say :up:

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby fisabililah » Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:47 am

Assalamu a'leykum,

homosexuality doenst make you kaafir as long as you aknowledge you are sinning and that it is siomething hated by Allah.and Allah is ar-rahman and he forgives al sins except shirk. As for those who say homosexuality is allowed in islam then they are kaafirs since they make halaal what Allah made haram, and they ignore the ayaat of Allah and make groups such as "gays4islam" etc. And there are many evidences for this if anyone wants indepth ask me inshallah.

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby Hyperactive » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:04 am

i some people do zina and brag here
and that didn't take them out of imaan.
the gay who knows it's wrong and does it
is sinning and maybe Allah so hadeyo.
it's major sin just like alkahol, zina, and so on.
if you deny what Allah make it halal or haram
that is when you're in real danger.
ig homosexuality make kafir
a huge percent of nation i know whould be kafir.lol

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby Basra- » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:53 am

Khaniisniimo is just like any other sin. It is not an environmental thing, its a biological thing.If it was an environmental thing--wadaadad Advo would have changed. :lol: But she has not, so lets skip this idea that its their fault.Only Allaah knows why khaniisniimo exists. :D

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby Gifted » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:59 am

One of the things in this world Ill probably never fully understand is sexuality. These people claim its not their fault. Scientists claim its due to a chemical imbalance in the brain and that they are genetically wired to be attracted to the same sex. But, in an Islamic sense, it cant be true because its a sin, and sins are avoidable. I dont believe Allah swt would create a human being a certain way only to punish them for it. There must be another explanation.

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby Htologist » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:41 am

YungNfresh, if I may ask you a question, why even bother to write this in general discussions, or talk to a Sheikh about "homesexuality" if you are not a homo? I'm not here to attack anyone, but as a straight person, I don't think about homesexuality nor do I go around posting questions about gays/lesbians and nor do I ask Sheikhs such questions.

Also, this post of yours says a lot about you, one, it says that you are trying to hide something which is very essence of who you are. I personally do not think people choose to be gay; for instance, I remember growing up and seeing my cousin who grew up with us playing with barbies and dolls, while my brothers played with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. My cousin is so feminine, I have no idea if he's gay, but I do know if he one day decides to tell me that he's gay, no matter what I will be there for him, accept him, and love him.

Anyway, why does sexual orientation bother people?? if someone chooses to sleep with someone of the same sex WHO CARES!! its not like ur gonna be in the room with them. What happen to being a good muslim and minding your own business. I'm not surprised about the intolerance y'all show but the hypocrisy is breathtaking!! Read the Quran, understand the Quran, live and let live... Let God Only be the Judge.

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby Gifted » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:46 am

Htologist,

If you honestly cared about your relative, then you would tell them to obstain from any homosexual activities as it is a grave sin. I for one could not just stand there and watch someone thats dear to me commit a grave sin without atleast consulting them about it. You are right though, at the end of the day we are not here to judge, but it is our right as muslims to help our brothers and sisters to the straight path.

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby Cali_Gaab » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:47 am

"YungNfresh, if I may ask you a question, why even bother to write this in general discussions, or talk to a Sheikh about "homesexuality" if you are not a homo? I'm not here to attack anyone, but as a straight person, I don't think about homesexuality nor do I go around posting questions about gays/lesbians and nor do I ask Sheikhs such questions"-Htologist

Good point :up:

People do choose to be gay, the choice is yours whether you want to deal with men or women.
You might be attracted to the wrong gender but to actually act upon your desires and seek a relationship with the same gender is a choice you make.

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby Gifted » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:49 am

Is being gay an act or rather a state of mind? Can anyone answer this.

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby Starscream » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:50 am

I always thought a man/woman who has sexual relations with someone of the same gender will burn in Hellfire along with the hypocrites.


Gifted, Islam doesn't speak of: "being homosexual" and "homosexuals". Islam speaks of: "having homosexual thoughts, tendencies, acts" and what have you. Homosexual acts are punishable and a man/woman who is burdened with homosexual desires is expected to commit himself to a Jihad against these feelings. He'll be rewarded for resisting these ill feelings by Allah, just as every Muslim will be rewarded for trying to stay on the path of Allah.


You need 3 witnesses of a homosexual act to execute the transgressors.

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby Gifted » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:55 am

So is being gay for someone one of lifes tests? Is it not unnatural, how could one be sexually attracted to the same sex if it goes against the laws of nature. And if they cant help it, how is it their fault? Should they decide to live a life of celibacy instead?

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Re: Lower Your Gays

Postby Starscream » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:04 am

There are always deviants and sometimes they are dealt with the wrong cards and are forced to go through a rougher life. Everybody with niya has equal opportunities at the end of the day before Allah. Isolated burdens like these are sources of Ajar, others fortunate to lack it have not. Do you see the Mizaan working here, Allah's Just?


What do you mean with this westeren thinking of Laws of Nature? I believe that's obsolete. Part of nature is that there are deviations to every rule or norm. As in matter of fact deviation is an essential part of nature; we like to call it imperfection. Human beings aren't perfect, because the human race is not.


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