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Islam teaches--and calls for--the supremacy of Islam by any means. We recognize Jews and Christians as "people of the book" but Buddhists and Hindus and all the other religions of the world are to us beneath contempt, and if such people ever come under our power, we are quick to persecute them.

Shirib wrote:Brother
This is not true. Through out all of history Islam is the religion that has not persecuted people for being different religions. Everyone says this no one was ever persecuted for not being Muslim it was simply pay the jiziya and move on.
When the Christians came to the New World, they were massacring the natives, there excuse was they were pagans, they were less than human. This was there exact reason why.
Slavery of black Africans, by whites was the worst form of slavery ever seen by mankind. Again they used the bible, through and through to justify this.
Do u know whats different Christianity doesn't get the blame for that in the media. If a Muslim would have done that u would be hearing it non stop.

yungnfresh wrote:Islam cannot be held accountable for the actions of radical Muslims.
* 3:151 "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve."
4:74 "Fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
* 4:76 "Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil."
* 4:91 "Take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant."
* 8:12 "I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger."
* 21:97 "Behold them, staring wide (in terror), the eyes of those who disbelieve!"
* 33:35-36 "Allah repulsed the disbelievers. ... He brought those of the People of the Scripture who supported them down from their strongholds, and cast panic into their hearts. Some ye slew, and ye made captive some.
* 59:2 "He it is Who hath caused those of the People of the Scripture who disbelieved to go forth from their homes unto the first exile. Ye deemed not that they would go forth, while they deemed that their strongholds would protect them from Allah. But Allah reached them from a place whereof they recked not, and cast terror in their hearts so that they ruined their houses with their own hands and the hands of the believers. So learn a lesson, O ye who have eyes!"
* 59:13 "Ye are more awful as a fear in their bosoms than Allah.


yungnfresh wrote:As for Islam teaching supremacy of our religion, it's something that's not limited to Islam alone. No religion says "this other religion is a better religion and better guided than this one, but follow us anyway". Every religion, either directly or indirectly, advocates its religious supremacy to any other religion.

ibroX wrote:yungnfresh wrote:As for Islam teaching supremacy of our religion, it's something that's not limited to Islam alone. No religion says "this other religion is a better religion and better guided than this one, but follow us anyway". Every religion, either directly or indirectly, advocates its religious supremacy to any other religion.
I agree--the problem is that Islam doesn't encourage its followers to merely be desirous of the religion spreading through out the world but rather commands its adherents to regard other non-islamic societies as worthless enemies until they become Muslim. That is wrong.
RebelLion wrote:"Western media does NOT for the most part engage in criticism of Islam as a religion because of their inherent belief in tolerance, though many right-wing publications are increasingly engaging in criticism of Islam."
Your right western media does not engage in criticism of islam, what it does engage and encourage is fear mongering and insults against muslims disguised as criticism. Criticism would be imply that western media have done their homework on islam which they clearly have not.
Do you consider the josten muhhamed cartoon as tolerance of islam?
yungnfresh wrote:ibroX wrote:yungnfresh wrote:As for Islam teaching supremacy of our religion, it's something that's not limited to Islam alone. No religion says "this other religion is a better religion and better guided than this one, but follow us anyway". Every religion, either directly or indirectly, advocates its religious supremacy to any other religion.
I agree--the problem is that Islam doesn't encourage its followers to merely be desirous of the religion spreading through out the world but rather commands its adherents to regard other non-islamic societies as worthless enemies until they become Muslim. That is wrong.
That's not Islam or it's teachings. Again, you need to reconsider what you're taking issue with, Islam or the acts of some Muslims, because they are two completely different things

ibroX wrote:RebelLion wrote:"Western media does NOT for the most part engage in criticism of Islam as a religion because of their inherent belief in tolerance, though many right-wing publications are increasingly engaging in criticism of Islam."
Your right western media does not engage in criticism of islam, what it does engage and encourage is fear mongering and insults against muslims disguised as criticism. Criticism would be imply that western media have done their homework on islam which they clearly have not.
Do you consider the josten muhhamed cartoon as tolerance of islam?
No, when they were initially published I was angry but since then the behavior of Muslims in reaction has led me to believe that the cartoons were more than justified. Muslims needed the civic lesson about freedom of speech, and the cartoons were also justified by the murder of Theo Van Gogh and the threat of violence that Muslims always seem to be wielding over those who don't care for their beliefs.

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