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Question for the Muslims

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Question for the Muslims

Postby SultanOrder » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:41 am

Who was the greatest General in Islam after Muhammad scw

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Re: Question for the Muslims

Postby Warsan_Star_Muslimah » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:06 am

Was it Khalid ibn al-Walid (ra)?

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Re: Question for the Muslims

Postby SultanOrder » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:20 am

yeah and its a little harder what did he prize most that was on his helmet at all times and in everybattle to the point where if he was in the thickest part of the fighting and his helmet fell he would push all aside to retrieve it.. try that :mrgreen:

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Re: Question for the Muslims

Postby Warsan_Star_Muslimah » Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:40 pm

Well, I have found out that it is a strand of the prophet muhammed (pbuh) hair :up:

Apparently inside the Ka'ab they have the prophet muhammed (pbuh) hair, I wonder if it is the same one.

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Re: Question for the Muslims

Postby SultanOrder » Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:01 pm

It could be they also have his sword in there two.

Ok want another question? pick a subject easy or hard

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Re: Question for the Muslims

Postby Warsan_Star_Muslimah » Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:33 pm

Fiqh....?

PO, do you do Islamic studies?

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Re: Question for the Muslims

Postby ModerateMuslim » Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:37 pm

when did the prophet (saw) become the greatest military tactician/commander in islam :?:

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Re: Question for the Muslims

Postby SultanOrder » Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:45 pm

SS when he blocked the water wells of badr from the mekkans?
or he made a trench sorrounding medina?
or he made the treaty of hudaybah?

WSM unfortnutely no. but heres one even tho i'm not to into fiqh

why does the women get less in inheritance than her brother?

and why did Umar Ibn Al-Khattab temporary lift the law that those who break and enter house theft get there right hands chopped.

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Re: Question for the Muslims

Postby Warsan_Star_Muslimah » Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:15 pm

PO,

Isn't one of the reason because the female can keep her money and not spend it on anyone but herself, and the man has a family to feed and look after?

It was because of famine during those times? And ofcourse when people are stealing for surviving you can't cut their hands.

I like Fiqh! I would love to insha-allah learn Fiqh according to the Shafi'i school of thought.

Anyway we can choose another field, if you want? Where do you get these question from btw?

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Re: Question for the Muslims

Postby SultanOrder » Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:29 pm

Your good your exactly right
better be careful some people might come and ask you why all one madhab loool
i like it to but i know more history than fiqh
heres another question i like... Why is it commendable for a man to buy expensive high quality perfume fragrance, and though the prophet scw was a frugal man in general he would not shy away from buying high quality perfume

I just get it from the top of my head from various islamic lectures and books i have read or watched

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Re: Question for the Muslims

Postby Warsan_Star_Muslimah » Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:15 pm

Okay, masha-allah. I have trouble when it comes to remembering what I have read or heard. I must go back and back for it. Sometimes, I do remember random hadiths and ayah or stuff I've heard, and thats because it might have emotionally moved me.

Anyways back to the topic at hand: The first one I sort-of knew. The 2nd one I googled lol!

So to your question which I haven't googled:

Is it because A) Islam stresses cleanliness and the keeping of your appearance, and smelling nice is important? B) For their wives too maybe? lol

p.s. about the madhab thing, who are those people...pffft? I'm Somali and the majority follow the Shafi'i school of thought. I noticed some things I did were not followed by some of my muslim friends, and I always wandered were I got these rules from. Upon research I found out those rules were found in the Shafi'i school of thought, and this is why I want to concentrate on it. I don't mind learning about other schools and their rulings too. Also, what people fail to remember is 75% of fiqh is agreed upon, they differ on only 15% of rulings. In any case were to follow one school of thought, you can't follow all at the same time, sometimes they say you can follow a specific ruling of another madhab, but picking and choosing from everywhere is dangerous. And Allah Knows Best!

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Re: Question for the Muslims

Postby SultanOrder » Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:53 pm

lol @ The first one I sort-of knew. The 2nd one I googled lol!

yeah i agree with you about the madhab thing, even when i speak to my brothers or sister they always ask me ridiculous questions like why don't you look up where they disagree why only follow one, what if one is wrong, why don't you look at the hadiths and see if they are right or wrong. Sometimes we just bump heads so hard that its best not to argue about it their convinced im 'sufi' :lol: they just have a hard time understanding traditional islam and anyone who claim to be ahlul sunnah are sufi so they see themselves as salafi

lol you didn't have to be so honest :up:

yes and no.. The real reason is fiqh wise perfume for men is considered sadaq and the better quality it is the more sadaq its worth.. reason being is that when you put on perfume as you probably know you are only aware of the scent until you get use to it while when you meet other people they notice immediately and it is pleasing to them.. also good scents remind us jannah... Also the Messenger of Allah scw said, “I was made to love three things from this world – perfume, women, and prayer.’

and now that your not cheating anymore lol how bout you tell who is a kafir

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Re: Question for the Muslims

Postby Warsan_Star_Muslimah » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:20 pm

Good thing we're on the same chapter Perfect, runnti I thought I might be getting into a big debate with you on madhabs and blind following, which I'm not doing by the way.

I cannot do my own conclusions on which one is wrong and which one is right, I'm not a Scholar myself. It is very dangerous to come to your conclusions by just looking at hadiths and qur'an.

“As for the one who is not a mujtahid, then basing his actions on primary textual evidence [Qur’an and hadith] is not permissible.”


“It means that it is prohibited for other than a mujtahid to base his actions upon a direct text from either the Book or the Sunna even if its transmission was sound because of the sheer likelihood of there being other considerations such as abrogation, limitations, specificity to certain situations, and other such matters that none but the mujtahid fully comprehends with precision.”

Again, following a madhab is not a prison, you are allowed to take other rules in some matters, however what they don't like is those people that pick and choose what set of rules from which madhab they like, in most cases they do it to make leeways for themselves. For example they'd ignore the rule in the hanafi madhab of re-doing your wudu if you bleed, even a prick of blood on your face, you have to re-do your wudu in the hanafi fiqh. Instead for that they'll follow the Shafi'i school of thought. However when it comes to men and women touching (even by accident) they'll ignore the Shafi'i rule of saying you have to re-do your wudu, instead they'll take the opposite view of another school which says no you don't have to.....etc

What is Sufi these days? It is a word, that has been so distorted. Firstly, anyone can say I'm a Sufi, but why should you believe me? Some dude jumps from the Sky and dances and they proclaim he is Sufi, no he is just a misguided dude. There is traditional Sufis, the ones that used to believe in all the rules of Islam, and I mean strict Shariah rules. The only thing they did more was proclaim their love for dhikr, and honestly dhikr is what makes the believer strong. It is what makes you love Allah, what strengths your Islam. And no, dhikr is not running in circles. It is waking up in the last half of the night, and before fajr, reading the qur'an, reading dua's, praying to Allah. It is, going out at night sitting in a cave, thanking Allah (swt) for all the blessings he gave us, it is following the Sunnah! :cry: Because, Islam is following the pillars with your heart, mind, and body. It is why; "Actions are (judged) by motives (niyyah), so each man will have what he intended...." is considered on of the best hadiths in Islam, and which Imam Shafi'i said is related to over 70 topics of Fiqh.

Are the 4 Imam's not Salaf? :lol: Is Abu Hanafi (rahimu allah) not a Tabi'i? By the way, most of rulings of the Salaf are none but that of the Shafi'i and Hanbali, but particularly of the latter since most of the Scholars they follow are from the school. Methinks it is all the same pretty much.

BACK TO THE QUESTION:


Sorry for my chatter (but you know I dig talking about Islam), laakin I thought I was allowed to search for my answers :shock: Ironman used to allow it. lol

About the perfume thing, oh my my, I used to love spraying perfume anything that smells nice on my pillow and bed, I believed it reminded me of Jannah and that I would have good dreams. This must be what they meant about the 'Fitrah' 8-)

and now that your not cheating anymore lol how bout you tell who is a kafir


A kafir is one who doesn't believe in Allah, his messengers, his books and etc? i.e. one who disbelieves, doesn't not believe in Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) as the last messenger! One who hides the truth?

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Re: Question for the Muslims

Postby SultanOrder » Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:48 pm

:shock: :shock: I'm simply blown away at the effort you put in their and frankly now you've made feel like my 2 word answers are not enough :oops: lol

heres a great site that Abdulhakim murad explains more into depth about the Madhabs
UNDERSTANDING THE FOUR MADHHABS
the problem with anti-madhhabism
http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/ahm/newmadhh.htm
Again, following a madhab is not a prison, you are allowed to take other rules in some matters, however what they don't like is those people that pick and choose what set of rules from which madhab they like, in most cases they do it to make leeways for themselves


Im very glad you illustrated this point because it is crucial to the argue of those who are anti-Madhabi, most of the time the arguments that they bring forth is usually from a logical standpoint (there logic lol) that is empty of knowledge yet they still want to spread their point of view to others :|

And a danger that is coming is peoples idea of how simple they see shariah and that if they know a few Hadiths and a few lines of quran they can give out fatwas'

‘As for the ordinary person [`ammi], it is obligatory [wajib] upon him to make taqlid of the ulema.’ (Baji, §783.) The actual choice of which mujtahid an ordinary Muslim should follow is clearly a major responsibility. ‘A muqallid may only make taqlid of another person after carefully examining his credentials, and obtaining reliable third-party testimony as to his scholarly attainments’ (Juwayni, §1511). (Imam Ibn Furak, however holds that a mujtahid’s own self-testimony is sufficient.) Imam Juwayni goes on to observe (§1515) that is is necessary to follow the best mujtahid available; whichis also the positoin of Imam al-Baji (§794). See also Shirazi (p. 72): ‘It is not permissible for someone asking for a fatwa to ask just anyone, lest he ask someone who has no knowledge of the fiqh. Instead it is obligatory (wajib) for him to ascertain the scholar’s learning and trustworthiness.’ And Qarafi (II, 110): ‘The Salaf, may Allah be pleased with them, were intensely reluctant to give fatwas. Imam Malik said, "A scholar should not give fatwas until he is regarded as competent to do so both by himself and by others." In other words, the scholars must be satisfied of his qualifications. Imam Malik did not begin to give fatwas until he had been given permission (ijaza) to do so by forty turbaned ones [scholars].’


Again I also agree with you about sufi or how it is traditionaly known as tassawuff which could be described as
It basically consists of dedication to worship, total dedication to Allah Most High, disregard for the finery and ornament of the world, abstinence from the pleasure, wealth, and prestige sought by most men, and retiring from others to worship alone. This was the general rule among the Companions of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) and the early Muslims, but when involvement in this-worldly things became widespread from the second Islamic century onwards and people became absorbed in worldliness, those devoted to worship came to be called Sufiyya or People of Tasawwuf (Ibn Khaldun, al-Muqaddima [N.d. Reprint. Mecca: Dar al-Baz, 1397/1978], 467).

So if the word did not exist in earliest times, we should not forget that this is also the case with many other Islamic disciplines, such as tafsir, ‘Qur'anic exegesis,’ or ‘ilm al-jarh wa ta‘dil, ‘the science of the positive and negative factors that affect hadith narrators acceptability,’ or ‘ilm al-tawhid, the science of belief in Islamic tenets of faith,’ all of which proved to be of the utmost importance to the correct preservation and transmission of the religion.

And that it is a legitimate Science of islam and that it is integeral to iman that one does it as the famous Jibriil hadith
‘Umar ibn al-Khattab said:

As we sat one day with the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace), a man in pure white clothing and jet black hair came to us, without a trace of travelling upon him, though none of us knew him.

He sat down before the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) bracing his knees against his, resting his hands on his legs, and said: "Muhammad, tell me about Islam." The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) said: "Islam is to testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and to perform the prayer, give zakat, fast in Ramadan, and perform the pilgrimage to the House if you can find a way."

He said: "You have spoken the truth," and we were surprised that he should ask and then confirm the answer. Then he said:

"Tell me about true faith (iman)," and the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) answered: "It is to believe in Allah, His angels, His inspired Books, His messengers, the Last Day, and in destiny, its good and evil."

"You have spoken the truth," he said, "Now tell me about the perfection of faith (ihsan)," and the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) answered: "It is to worship Allah as if you see Him, and if you see Him not, He nevertheless sees you."


and yes lil lady you are right about the fitrah pretty cool huh 8-)

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yes and there is more to it it is used in the Koran in the context of the brutal persecution of the early Muslims at the hands of pagan idolaters’
Also looking at the word it's root meaning is Semitic root K-F-R "to cover". As a pre-Islamic term it described farmers burying seeds in the ground, covering them with soil while planting. Thus, the word kāfir implies the meaning "a person who hides or covers". In Islamic parlance, a kāfir is a person who rejects Islamic faith, i.e. "hides or covers

Kafir (Arabic: كافر kāfir; plural كفّار kuffār) is an Arabic word meaning "rejecter" or "ingrate," also the term "Kuffar" the plural of the word "Kafir" is used to refer to peasants (أَعْجَبَ الْكُفَّارَ نَبَاتُهُ) Surah 57 Al-Hadid (Iron) Ayah 20;[2] as they till earth and "cover up" seeds. The term "Kufr" means "to cover up" this is why earth tillers are referred to as "Kuffar."

I'd like to add that people whom Islam has not come to them in an undistorted image are not kafir and they will not be judged by Allah for not believing something they did not understand. This is just a simple sense definition from Ghazali

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Re: Question for the Muslims

Postby Warsan_Star_Muslimah » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:01 pm

hehe, PO, it was your fault you got me carried away. But you don't have to write as much lol

I like the explanation of the seeds and the earth soil used to cover it. Sometimes simple explanations do wonders.

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