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Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:59 pm
by SultanOrder
Key-blade you ask him then

Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:02 pm
by Keyblade
pointless
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:03 pm
by Maandhow
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:06 pm
by eliteSomali
Somalinet caadi ma'aha walle. Even the common muslim holds himself highly. It's like we're all scholars out here debating back and forth. I suggest you leave what you don't know. If you haven't learned from a well known scholar then please, stick to your prayers and bettering yourself instead of diggin' information that you can barely begin to grasp on the internet.
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:36 pm
by abuu_dujaana
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:38 pm
by abuu_dujaana
Maandhow Qosolka badan iska kale yareeey
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:52 pm
by Nanees
My boy, if you look at the response to evolution by the shaykh you can understand what he believes evolution implies, that is that humans evolved from ape like species into our present form. So his response is directed to those who hold that notion, which Nanees has iterated and reiterated many times that she is opposed to that view. So then we must ask the shaykh on closer examination on the evolution (change over time) of animals and plants. Take Tufah which is originally from the foot hills of the mountains of Kazakhistan and not indigenous to North America, yet with the arrival of the apple seed we now have many new variants of the apple then previously seen. That is evolution at work, which can not be denied.
Our short exchange ends permanently, since your gaalo.
Flawless victory.
Gk if a nonmuslim is acquiring about the diin on what grounds can you dismiss him?
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:10 pm
by grandpakhalif
Nanees I already told you I don't want to engage in debate with you, leave me alone.
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:16 pm
by yungnfresh
It boggles the mind how grandpakhalif can quote entire Hadiths, verses from the Quran and beautifully delivered scholarly advices...yet in the same post, insult people and be arrogant, which is the exact opposite of/in stark contrast to every source he just posted to prove his point. How are you gonna preach Islam unIslamically?
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:20 pm
by grandpakhalif
How I am I being arrogant, and where did I insult? The Salaf used to be harsh with the innovators and kuffar, and so am I.
it seems you love to pick at grandpa yet you fail or are negligent of recognizing the errors of others.
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:25 pm
by yungnfresh
If you don't see a problem with how you debate about the Diin, then that's a problem itself.
Show me a single proof from Quran/Sunnah/Hadith books that show the scholars referring to atheists as "atheist boy" or anything comparable to that, or telling a nonbeliever "our short convo ends here cuz you're gaal".
You won't, cuz they don't, cuz they understood that people who have no faith or are weak in faith need Dacwa more than a believer does, and so they were polite and sincere so that the person they're advising would be more receptive to their message. You think it's a sound strategy to antagonize people into believing between an offensive cocktail of Quran, Hadith and insults?
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:31 pm
by grandpakhalif
I do admit I have been a bit to harsh, which may have caused less reception. Even rasullulah said to Muadh ibn Jabal: Make things easy and do not make it difficult, give good tidings and do not chase them away.
I am human though and get frustrated when a mass of opposition flows your way, nacam.
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:35 pm
by yungnfresh
Address people however u see fit when discussing anything else, but when you're debating about the Diin, at least have respect for the topic of discussion even if you don't have respect for the person you're discussing it with...all insults and out of line comments achieve is polluting the atmosphere of the discussion sxb

Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:31 pm
by Somaliman50
grandpakhalif may Allah keep you firm on the right path, nin akhyaar ah baad tahay

Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:59 pm
by grandpakhalif
Abukar what's your view on the Somali sheikh sharif abdinur.