Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:08 pm
Sh Muqbil said hes a mubtadic, innovator! Fear Allah.caalim asoomaalAbukar what's your view on the Somali sheikh sharif abdinur.
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Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:33 pm
oo muxuu u daliishaday? did you ever even listen to sheikh muqbils words? can you tell me on what basis do these jadeedis refute alcalaamah shariif cabdinuur?Sh Muqbil said hes a mubtadic, innovator! Fear Allah.caalim asoomaalAbukar what's your view on the Somali sheikh sharif abdinur.
cajaladahaan dhagayso, waa sh bashiir shiil oo sh cabdinuur difaacaya bil'adilati minal quran wasunnah
http://www.halgan.net/view_article.php?articleid=9524
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:53 pm
Grandpakhalif
Sheikh Albany, Binbaas, Cusaymeen,muqbal iyo Fowzaan kuligooda Allaaha u naxriistee haddii si xun wax loogu sheego sidii ay u fahmeen ama loogu sheegay ayay ugu jawaabayaan.
Qaladka waxaan saari lahaay dadkii yemen intay aadeen oo culimada sida sheikh cumar faaroq, sheikh umal, sheikh shariif been iyo xumaan ka gudbiyey.
Waxaan fiicnaan lahayd haddii ay wax ka tabanayaan inay culimada naftooda waydiiyaan ama culimada kale soomaaliyeed u bandhigaan
waxaan aamin sanahay dadkaas culimada gaalaysiinaya oo been abuur ka faafinaya,
qatar weyn ayeey ku sugan yihiiin, haddii aysan toobad keenin.
waxaa waa yahaan danbe soo shaac baxday kooxa gaar ah oo culimada soomaaliyeed gaalaysiinaaya ayagoo hadalo goos goos ah inteey qaadaan u geeyaan culimada Yemen joogta si xun ugu turjumayaaan ayay sheikha waydiinayaan diinta maxay ka qabtaa?.Sh Muqbil said hes a mubtadic, innovator! Fear Allah.caalim asoomaalAbukar what's your view on the Somali sheikh sharif abdinur.
Sheikh Albany, Binbaas, Cusaymeen,muqbal iyo Fowzaan kuligooda Allaaha u naxriistee haddii si xun wax loogu sheego sidii ay u fahmeen ama loogu sheegay ayay ugu jawaabayaan.
Qaladka waxaan saari lahaay dadkii yemen intay aadeen oo culimada sida sheikh cumar faaroq, sheikh umal, sheikh shariif been iyo xumaan ka gudbiyey.
Waxaan fiicnaan lahayd haddii ay wax ka tabanayaan inay culimada naftooda waydiiyaan ama culimada kale soomaaliyeed u bandhigaan
waxaan aamin sanahay dadkaas culimada gaalaysiinaya oo been abuur ka faafinaya,
qatar weyn ayeey ku sugan yihiiin, haddii aysan toobad keenin.
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:06 pm
lool Abakar, I was there and I heard with my own ears since sh. bashir is the imam of my mosque. It has already been refuted, in his defence he made many errors in support of ahlu bidcah, it was very strange. Nacam.
Mandhoow, who made takfir? Sh. Muqbil said he's a mubtadic not a gaalo, innovator so I'll take from him. bring any scholar who defends him otherwise I'll take his Jarh.
Mandhoow, who made takfir? Sh. Muqbil said he's a mubtadic not a gaalo, innovator so I'll take from him. bring any scholar who defends him otherwise I'll take his Jarh.
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:23 pm
gradpakhalif can you explain if possible what sheikh sharif has said?
before you jump into conclusion.
before you jump into conclusion.
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:27 pm
What is the daleel which sh muqbil used? On what grounds did he call Sh Shareef Abdinoor a mubtadi'?lool Abakar, I was there and I heard with my own ears since sh. bashir is the imam of my mosque. It has already been refuted, in his defence he made many errors in support of ahlu bidcah, it was very strange. Nacam.
Mandhoow, who made takfir? Sh. Muqbil said he's a mubtadic not a gaalo, innovator so I'll take from him. bring any scholar who defends him otherwise I'll take his Jarh.
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:36 pm
War wax badan oo baatil bu leeyahay kowaad: culumaada wa weyn oo wadanka sacuuda wixi siyaasad ku sabsan lagama qadan karo, ikhlaaskooda wax ba ka qaldan. Xita kuwi Safar iyo salman bu amaana iyo Syed Qutbi,takifirida Ikwhaani iyo kuwas!
Dhagayso cajalada:
Dhagayso cajalada:
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:38 pm
[youtube]BO19pBWZgDU&list=UUpPqnxVkznMGqAjZd6xwYvA&index=3&feature=plcp[/youtube]
Sh cukaashe oo difiicaaye fikrada sh muqbil iyo sh rabeec.
Sh cukaashe oo difiicaaye fikrada sh muqbil iyo sh rabeec.
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:13 pm
Shariif Cabdinuur ma qalad buu sheegay? It is known that many scholars in Saudi are on the payroll of the regime there, if you ask them a political issue, its obvious that they'd say whatever interests their government. Marka the sheekh is trying to tell us that we should not boycott them entirely, we take their good i.e. we benefit from the knowledge that is provided by these scholars and we keep our disntance from their pro government ideas. And this isnt some innovation, the culama of the Salaf were never known to be govt lackeys and stooges, they were independent scholars who made their own ijtihaad.War wax badan oo baatil bu leeyahay kowaad: culumaada wa weyn oo wadanka sacuuda wixi siyaasad ku sabsan lagama qadan karo, ikhlaaskooda wax ba ka qaldan. Xita kuwi Safar iyo salman bu amaana iyo Syed Qutbi,takifirida Ikwhaani iyo kuwas!
Dhagayso cajalada:
And his 'amaanid' for Sayd qutb waa baab kale, i can bring you statements by bin baaz and ibn jibreen who defended sayd qutb as a martyr of a honest cause. And We do not say he (sayd qutb) was a big caalim but we do not backbite him and slander him either.
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:24 pm
Akhi's these are my favourite scholars: ibn baz, albaanee, uthaymeen, muqbil, rabee' al-madkhali, etc
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:38 am
Abakar, I see what your upon and hope you don't misguide the people. May Allah protect the scholars from the evil talk you say.
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:46 am
Ameen, may Allah protect the people from my evil na'm.Abakar, I see what your upon and hope you don't misguide the people. May Allah protect the scholars from the evil talk you say.
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:52 am
Your likes such as you and shirib have been exposed by many culuma
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Sh Saleh Fawzan refuting this:
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Sh Mohammad Bin Hadee
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Aniga waxan ku keenay many scholars refuting this view. What proof do you have?
[youtube]Udwz2N-CffU&feature=plcp&context=C368a018UDOEgsToPDskKLubZoS1qrrWqkBHNTt9Ni[/youtube]
Sh Saleh Fawzan refuting this:
[youtube]5iJ1hRq71Ns&feature=plcp&context=C393b3f3UDOEgsToPDskIEm8eAa0SzpWpZoPgPLGcP[/youtube]
Sh Mohammad Bin Hadee
[youtube]Fx8KiSjxjCc&[/youtube]
Aniga waxan ku keenay many scholars refuting this view. What proof do you have?
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:43 am
Why do imams like sheikh Muhaisany get arrested for making a du'a which is negative towards the house of saud's allies (USA) then? claiming that the scholars of Saudi are free to speak on matters of foreign policies is foolish to say the least.
Re: grandpakhalif The way of the salaf vs The Hizb of the Sa
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:52 am
This is a lie spread by khaarijis,Why do imams like sheikh Muhaisany get arrested for making a du'a which is negative towards the house of saud's allies (USA) then? claiming that the scholars of Saudi are free to speak on matters of foreign policies is foolish to say the least.
1. He he was never arrested after he made that dua.
2. he never made that dua in the Haram, it was in Riyadh
3. He was based in Riyadh and is currently still there, he was never arrested
He's an article denying that lie spread over the itnernet.
1- Shiekh Muhaissney is not an Imam in Al Masjid Al Haram and never was.
And the six imams and Khatibs are according to age
a- Muhammed Abd Allah Muhammed Al Sabeel
(member in the senior scholars committee).
b- Dr. Saleh Abd Allah Bin Hameed
(member in the senior scholars committee)
c- Dr. Usamah Abd Allah Abd al Ghani Khayyat.
(member in the Shurah committee)
d- Dr. Abd Al Rahman Bin Abd Al Aziza Bin Abd Allah al Saudais.
e- Shiekh Sa'ood Al Shuraim
(member in the teaching committee of Um Al Qura university)
f- Shiekh Saleh al Talib who is an alternative Sheikh in the case of someone being unavailable.
And all of them have specific times to lead and Khutba's to give.
While the person who spreads the Dua' says that the Shiekh said it while praying Taraweh in Al Massjid Al Haram and this brings us to the second proof.
2- Taraweeh prayer in Ramadan is never led by other than the two Shiekhs Abd Al Rahman Al Sudais and Sa'ood Al Shuraim and this is started from 1414 Hijri, while the rest of the Imams and Khateebs lead in other prayers and in Jum'aah. As for Qiam, the rest of the Shiekhs come in and sometimes the Madeenah Shiekhs lead.
3- the Dua was given in 1413 Hijri and not 1422 Hijri as it says up there.
bottom line is…..
Shiekh al Muhaissny is a Shiekh in Ryiadh in Al Qaseem area and remained as such until 1415 Hijri when he got transferred to a mosque in Mecca called Al Qatari which is in an area called Al Azeeziyya. And he never led a prayer in Al Masjid Al Haram.
4- the Shiekh up until this day, he gives Dua's which are even more powerful than that one and last Ramdan in particular he gave something similar and he never got arrested for it not even in recent years and he always mentions the Mujahideen in his Dua's and still never got arrested for it.
5- There are people who prayed behind the Shiekh in that particular night and pray behind him every year and people who are close to the Shiekh who never saw the Shiekh being arrested and denied that the Sheikh has even been arrested at any time.
6- According to what I know the Shiekh doesn't hold a Phd in Islamic studies and is not that knowledgeable, since only Shiekhs with great knowledge and usually PhD holders are chosen in Al Massjid Al Haram.
7- the Shiekh has got recordings which can be found all over the internet up until this day. As old as 1409 and as new as 1425 Hijri.
9- one last gift for the brothers and sisters……
in 1422 in particular, the Shiekhs al Sa'ood and al Shuraim led the prayer and you can refer to the records for that since the Taraweeh prayers have records to them and are recording year after another.
In simple English……
The Sheikh gave the Dua', but it wasn't in al Massjid Al Haram, not even in Mecca but in Riyadh and he never got arrested for it or for any other reason and he is still giving the same powerful Dua's.
I hope you enjoyed it
and don't forget us from Dua'