Women wearing pants - its halaal

[Alphanumeric]

Women should always wear panties.

Loool, I love when I skip over a completely nutty post like this.

[gedo_gurl]

Who cares? As for 'this is what has ruined Christianity and Judaism'? SMH. Are you serious...a womans choice of clothes ruins a religion? Only in a weak religion would that happen. That is a huge jump, what ruined both those religions was poltics, which ultimately made them pro secularism, which then created the opposing nut bags. Sound familiar? Who the heck cares if a woman wears trousers? All I ever see is a bunch of stuff about what women wear. The Taliban allow the rape of little boys to happen but God forbid a woman show her eyes or face or even ask for her change back in a shop because she is a 'walking fitna' acuudubiAllahi. Its infatuations like these which shock me. Wear a jilbaab, wear sweatpants, i dont care...are you helping your community? Do you support the drugs trade (like when you hide the fact that your kid is a dealer/pimp)? What about child abuse? What about the impacts of wars? How about we talk deeply and Islamically about the stuff which matters to most Muslims. Whether this is halal or not should be so obsucre (of course there should always be a space for these topics, I'm not saying we ignore dress codes) when compared to all the stuff we should be making fatwas about, and should be discussing. How incredibly bullshit is it that everyone knows about which lower garment is the most haram but we refuse to discuss the stuff which is killing us and humiliating us every day.

[Nanees]

btw, i really dont understand what some baggy pants and a long shirt/dress will reveal of a womans figure that every man cant already deduce for himself if shes wearing an abaayad. i mean if you don't know that a woman has 2 distinct legs then you're functionally retarded and your sins wont count against you on the day of judgement anyways so its like a catch 22.

[Alphanumeric]

Who cares? As for 'this is what has ruined Christianity and Judaism'? SMH. Are you serious...a womans choice of clothes ruins a religion? Only in a weak religion would that happen. That is a huge jump, what ruined both those religions was poltics, which ultimately made them pro secularism, which then created the opposing nut bags. Sound familiar? Who the heck cares if a woman wears trousers? All I ever see is a bunch of stuff about what women wear. The Taliban allow the rape of little boys to happen but God forbid a woman show her eyes or face or even ask for her change back in a shop because she is a 'walking fitna' acuudubiAllahi. Its infatuations like these which shock me. Wear a jilbaab, wear sweatpants, i dont care...are you helping your community? Do you support the drugs trade (like when you hide the fact that your kid is a dealer/pimp)? What about child abuse? What about the impacts of wars? How about we talk deeply and Islamically about the stuff which matters to most Muslims. Whether this is halal or not should be so obsucre (of course there should always be a space for these topics, I'm not saying we ignore dress codes) when compared to all the stuff we should be making fatwas about, and should be discussing. How incredibly bullshit is it that everyone knows about which lower garment is the most haram but we refuse to discuss the stuff which is killing us and humiliating us every day.

The Taliban pretty much started as an anti-rape campaign. Two young girls were held by a warlord. He ended up getting run over by a tank, where then his body segments were hung as town ornaments.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[gedo_gurl]

I bet that tiny little socialist party and the spy who was hired to spy on them had no idea about the impact they would have on the world either (Nazism). Anything can change with time, even Al Qaeda was a much different ideology back in the day, most of its original supporters are shocked by the groups of today. Shit changes.

Besides...What are they actively doing to stop the rape of young boys, some barely out of being toddlers (5 years +). If they put as much effort into policing that nasty, horrific practise as they did on what women wear, we would have a safer and more prosperous country. The men who do this are robbing Afghanistan of its future. If girls have virtually no education in most parts, and young boys are sold off like that, how can you build for the future? How significant is their original concept in light of the opportunity they have wasted in guarding and ruling Afghanistan?

[Alphanumeric]

Things do change. But I'm convinced al-Qaeda was never more than a few dozen dudes in the desert. Rather than an armed international force, it's an ideology propagated by the American intelligence. Taliban was and is very different.

But this is a different topic for a different day.

[gedo_gurl]

I have never confused the two in my life.

No, their ideology I actually agreed with (a lot of the time, unlike these neo-al Qaeda) and it was Islamic. It wasnt a few dozen people, I can assure you they were many. But they were disciplined and were not attention seekers.

Agreed, however, another topic for another day.

[Somaliman50]

Who cares? As for 'this is what has ruined Christianity and Judaism'? SMH. Are you serious...a womans choice of clothes ruins a religion? Only in a weak religion would that happen. That is a huge jump, what ruined both those religions was poltics, which ultimately made them pro secularism, which then created the opposing nut bags. Sound familiar? Who the heck cares if a woman wears trousers? All I ever see is a bunch of stuff about what women wear. The Taliban allow the rape of little boys to happen but God forbid a woman show her eyes or face or even ask for her change back in a shop because she is a 'walking fitna' acuudubiAllahi. Its infatuations like these which shock me. Wear a jilbaab, wear sweatpants, i dont care...are you helping your community? Do you support the drugs trade (like when you hide the fact that your kid is a dealer/pimp)? What about child abuse? What about the impacts of wars? How about we talk deeply and Islamically about the stuff which matters to most Muslims. Whether this is halal or not should be so obsucre (of course there should always be a space for these topics, I'm not saying we ignore dress codes) when compared to all the stuff we should be making fatwas about, and should be discussing. How incredibly bullshit is it that everyone knows about which lower garment is the most haram but we refuse to discuss the stuff which is killing us and humiliating us every day.

walaal you made an important point towards the end of the paragraph but everything starts with the stepping stones. dress code is part of the shariah and if we as muslims want to progress with our ideas then even the little things count. what good is it to discuss the state of our ummah when we don't know our religion? how can you try to help the ummah when you dont openly see the small errors which cause so many of our problems today?

[gedo_gurl]

What stepping stones? Islam has been around for well over 1400 years, we do not need stepping stones at this stage. In fact, people know more about Islam than ever before. Many Islamic countries went back to jaahiliya (in some places women were told praying was 'mans duty') and we came out of that. We know a lot about Islam, every hoodrat can recite a hadith. We dont need stepping stones.

[MrSinister]

Who cares? As for 'this is what has ruined Christianity and Judaism'? SMH. Are you serious...a womans choice of clothes ruins a religion? Only in a weak religion would that happen. That is a huge jump, what ruined both those religions was poltics, which ultimately made them pro secularism, which then created the opposing nut bags. Sound familiar? Who the heck cares if a woman wears trousers? All I ever see is a bunch of stuff about what women wear. The Taliban allow the rape of little boys to happen but God forbid a woman show her eyes or face or even ask for her change back in a shop because she is a 'walking fitna' acuudubiAllahi. Its infatuations like these which shock me. Wear a jilbaab, wear sweatpants, i dont care...are you helping your community? Do you support the drugs trade (like when you hide the fact that your kid is a dealer/pimp)? What about child abuse? What about the impacts of wars? How about we talk deeply and Islamically about the stuff which matters to most Muslims. Whether this is halal or not should be so obsucre (of course there should always be a space for these topics, I'm not saying we ignore dress codes) when compared to all the stuff we should be making fatwas about, and should be discussing. How incredibly bullshit is it that everyone knows about which lower garment is the most haram but we refuse to discuss the stuff which is killing us and humiliating us every day.

so much frustration in one post

[Alphanumeric]

every hoodrat can recite a hadith.

That's pretty damn potent. I've lived by that for quite a while now. But probably under a different context.

[Beenaale_No1]

Who cares? As for 'this is what has ruined Christianity and Judaism'? SMH. Are you serious...a womans choice of clothes ruins a religion? Only in a weak religion would that happen. That is a huge jump, what ruined both those religions was poltics, which ultimately made them pro secularism, which then created the opposing nut bags. Sound familiar? Who the heck cares if a woman wears trousers? All I ever see is a bunch of stuff about what women wear. The Taliban allow the rape of little boys to happen but God forbid a woman show her eyes or face or even ask for her change back in a shop because she is a 'walking fitna' acuudubiAllahi. Its infatuations like these which shock me. Wear a jilbaab, wear sweatpants, i dont care...are you helping your community? Do you support the drugs trade (like when you hide the fact that your kid is a dealer/pimp)? What about child abuse? What about the impacts of wars? How about we talk deeply and Islamically about the stuff which matters to most Muslims. Whether this is halal or not should be so obsucre (of course there should always be a space for these topics, I'm not saying we ignore dress codes) when compared to all the stuff we should be making fatwas about, and should be discussing. How incredibly bullshit is it that everyone knows about which lower garment is the most haram but we refuse to discuss the stuff which is killing us and humiliating us every day.

Because people [read: men] have a clinical obsession with women. What do they wear, how do they talk, how do they eat, how do they piss, who are they talking to, why is she driving on her own. etc. Haram this, bidca that, fitna this etc.

When was the last time you, or any of us, saw a muxadaro talking about crucial issues like community cohesion, domestic violence, absent fathers, and issues like that that need tackling? I can't recall the last time such muxadaro was given. Half the time they are obsessing over female's dress code.

One can wear a full niqab or a pair of jeans with low cut top for all I care. As long as they contributing to the community for the better and using their expertise and knowledge to help the less fortunate. People are individuals. Wear what you like.

[Beenaale_No1]

Who cares? As for 'this is what has ruined Christianity and Judaism'? SMH. Are you serious...a womans choice of clothes ruins a religion? Only in a weak religion would that happen. That is a huge jump, what ruined both those religions was poltics, which ultimately made them pro secularism, which then created the opposing nut bags. Sound familiar? Who the heck cares if a woman wears trousers? All I ever see is a bunch of stuff about what women wear. The Taliban allow the rape of little boys to happen but God forbid a woman show her eyes or face or even ask for her change back in a shop because she is a 'walking fitna' acuudubiAllahi. Its infatuations like these which shock me. Wear a jilbaab, wear sweatpants, i dont care...are you helping your community? Do you support the drugs trade (like when you hide the fact that your kid is a dealer/pimp)? What about child abuse? What about the impacts of wars? How about we talk deeply and Islamically about the stuff which matters to most Muslims. Whether this is halal or not should be so obsucre (of course there should always be a space for these topics, I'm not saying we ignore dress codes) when compared to all the stuff we should be making fatwas about, and should be discussing. How incredibly bullshit is it that everyone knows about which lower garment is the most haram but we refuse to discuss the stuff which is killing us and humiliating us every day.

so much frustration in one post

She's right though. Can you argue against any of her points? She's 100% spot on.

[XimanJaale]

You can still see the shape of the woman's body when she wears long dark dresses when its windy. The wind hits her body and makes the dress to create the shape of her tits, ass or curves.

[MrSinister]

of course she is right, i just found her frustration funny.

That being said I have no intention on forfeiting the privilege islam affords me as a man even if that means some are mistreated.