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The Arabman · Post by **The Arabman** » Wed May 31, 2006 7:23 pm

"in case you haven't noticed everything revolves around clans. people fight according to clans, marry according to clans and make peace according to clans."

In the world I live and among the people I associate with (including Somalis), I haven't noticed that. Perhaps that's what revolves around your world. I don't believe your revolving concept is positive.

DawladSade · Post by **DawladSade** » Wed May 31, 2006 8:08 pm

Arabman he thinks you are pro-Islam because you are a minority and need their protection. Somalis are so primitive isaguna wax lala yaabo maaha.

So his heart is broken let me tell him you are Darod and absaloutely need no protection from anyone save Allah.

[quote]^^^ I donÃ¢Â€Â™t know all about that, but what I know is that during the war between Reer-Gedo and Reer-Moqdisho, the Gardhheerayaal were the first Reer-Gedo people to establish business and interact with reer Moqdisho, in 1995 or 1996 something like that. Moreover, Gedo region was really peace and out of tribal hatred.[/quote]

Wise-Man, ever since Aydiid's defeat in 1991 in Gedo, Gedo was the probably the most peaceful, secure, and the most prosperous place in all of east Africa. That was a time when Mogadishu was a non man's anarchic scene from a Mad Maxx movie, Puntland was in a SSDF turf war (btw Mohamed Abshir and Abdulahi yusuf) and a civil war of horrific magnitude was occuring in Somaliland (btw Habar Younis vs. habar Awal and later a greater conflict btw Habar Younis and Habar Jeclo).

Why was Gedo like that?

Because Al Itihad had settled the land ! They unified the people with diin and the region took on an almost holy aura. That was a time when all the biggest learned culuma of the Somali people be they Dir, Darod, Isak, or Hawiye were headquarted there and jaamacada Islamiga in East Africa convened there to interpret and discuss cilmi and islamic jurisprudence. Wallahi it is not naive to say even the fruits were fresher, the region was greener, and everyone looked healthier then anywhere else in Somalia even though Gedo was not really built by the Kacaan and suffered lack of infrustructure.

As always clan entered the situation. Let's look at these key points:

1. That was a time when Clan hatred was rife and especially feelings btw Darood and Hawiye. Sheikh Awey was Habar Gidir, from the loins of those especially hate by Darods. How can Darod ppl trust you and accept you in their heartlands when your relatives tried to commit genocide on Darod civilians in your Hawiye heartlands?

2. Reer Gedo have a strong sense of being Darods and have always had that mentality because they are infact a Darod sea surrounded by cadow sokeeye (Rahanweyn, Hawiye, Garre, other clans) and cadow shisheeye (Amhara and Tigray). They were easily swayed by Darod sentiments in the national level with Sanaag and Bari people daily screaming at reer Gedo to get rid of the lion in sheeps clothing (hawiye akhwaan) just like they got rid of them in early 90s.

3. SNF heads such as Gen Cumar Haji Massale, Col Abdirizak Isaak Bihi, Gen Ali Nuur Suggule, Col Mohamed Abdi, and Gen Khalif Shareer were very much interested in putting Marehan back into power and saw the normalizing of relations btw Marehan and Hawiye through AL Itihad as a threat to their hold over the Marehan ppl and the were afriad of losing politics support.

4. Most of Marehan leaders in Al Itihad were Marehans of Gedo origins while those in SNF were mostly of Marehans of Mudug origins. That strained relations dividing ppl into geographical origins.

5. Ethiopians were right on the border never willing to give Al Itihad a chance.

Look at it like that and anyone would have seen Al Itihad would be doomed in Gedo but for some one to come here and lie about their legacy in Gedo is a lying bastard and a ma-xishoodo at that !

The Arabman · Post by **The Arabman** » Wed May 31, 2006 8:51 pm

"he thinks you are pro-Islam because you are a minority and need their protection."

It's true I am pro-Islam (who wouldn't?) and from the minority, however I don't need their protection. Let me use your wise words; I absolutely need no protection from anyone save Allah.

xoogSADE14 · Post by **xoogSADE14** » Wed May 31, 2006 9:26 pm

mad_dog

adeer meeshaan rag waa weeyn baa kuwada hadlayee noo kaadi.

"arab"man

there must be two somalias then cause the one i'm from is based on qabiil and has always been so.

The Arabman · Post by **The Arabman** » Wed May 31, 2006 10:06 pm

"there must be two somalias then cause the one i'm from is based on qabiil and has always been so."

Indeed, there are different lifestyles; it pays to explore those different than yours. Just because yours has been always based on so doesn't make it right or on haqq. Just understand, one of the most important thing in this life is to lead a lifestyle based on haqq. Certain lifestyles might provide protection, but because it's based on injustice, there's no guarantee it will always provide protection.

Unclebin · Post by **Unclebin** » Wed May 31, 2006 11:26 pm

Ethnic somalis aren't arab. I have more arab blood then the avg somali and I am nothing close to an arab. But what I think Xoogsade like many other somalis denies is the close affinity between the two socio cultural groups. Arab speakers are a much larger group and hence I feel the brother is blindsighted by the belief that they will gobble up the somali language, culture, people whenst the "Islamic courts" take over xamar. Which is a matter of time.

Xoog you said something along the lines of I don't mind if the islamic courts takeover Xamar but I don't want them in my lands? Laughing

Seriously this is xamar. What does gedo have to do with it? Do you fear a future strike and hence show your dismay with the ongoing conflict? I wanna know whats flashing in your mind like you asking arab man his tribe Laughing

Aiman · Post by **Aiman** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:04 am

[quote="The Arabman"]Mudane Aiman, welcome back.[/quote]

Shukran yaa akhee, was testing myself not to be adictive to the site so it went well.

xoogSADE14 · Post by **xoogSADE14** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:46 am

unclebin

i don't fear anything! i've defeated those gardhereyaal bastards at my weakest moment i'm pretty sure that i can crush them today when i'm in charge of the breadbasket of somalia Smile

if you're who you say you are then you should have no love for these "wadaads" neither not after what they've put your people through when they were in charge of your home state Exclamation

somalis are not arabs and have nothing to do with them besides sharing our beautiful religion.

I-Think-You-Like-Me · Post by **I-Think-You-Like-Me** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:24 am

i sapport da courts.

The Arabman · Post by **The Arabman** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:09 am

"i've defeated those gardhereyaal bastards at my weakest moment"

No, you couldn't defeat them; Ethiopia (maybe also the West) had to help you. On your own, you probably couldn't hurt a fly.

gurey25 · Post by **gurey25** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:16 am

Arabman is right

it was ethiopian armour that did the job.

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