When did Palestine go from Jihad..

[The Nomad]

The Nomad, you call him a theif and Hamas call him a Shaheed (do you agree with Hamas?).

No. Hamas are not Ahlul Sunnah, they are off the manhaj.

For a supporter of Jihad, you seem to be happy when spreading all this Zionist propaganda. Why?

What Jihad?

A billionaire that always looked rough and hardly lived a life of extravagance? A man that was locked up in his compound for TWO YEARS and died a sad death? A man that got all sides of the Palestinian world to come out for his funeral?

The facade dropped when his wife began prancing around the world, visiting fashion shows using the aid money meant for the Palestinians afflicted by war. He was not a man of the people.

I think you’ll forgive me when I refuse to 'extrapolate' and demand proof instead.

The proof is simple, it's common knowledge that his personal funds were in the billions, multiple sources attest to this. Taking into account the fact that without siphoning of aid, it'd be impossible for a pariah to amass such wealth, there's only one conclusion.

[Paddington Bear]

A billionaire that always looked rough and hardly lived a life of extravagance? A man that was locked up in his compound for TWO YEARS and died a sad death? A man that got all sides of the Palestinian world to come out for his funeral?

The facade dropped when his wife began prancing around the world, visiting fashion shows using the aid money meant for the Palestinians afflicted by war. He was not a man of the people.

She herself (with corporation from the Palestinian Authority) admitted that Arafat had no will and that the PA pays her ten thousand dollars which is her late husband’s pension. All other reports to the contrary are originated in the West by Western and Zionist groups (and now YOU).

I think you’ll forgive me when I refuse to 'extrapolate' and demand proof instead.

The proof is simple, it's common knowledge that his personal funds were in the billions, multiple sources attest to this. Taking into account the fact that without siphoning of aid, it'd be impossible for a pariah to amass such wealth, there's only one conclusion.

You're relying on common knowledge as proof? Oh well, I think I've seen the light now. It's all about common knowledge. All of a sudden, the world looks different :

* Sh. Sharif is a good man and the best president Somalia will ever have (it's common knowledge).

* Abdullahi Yusuf is an evil man that eats babies hearts for breakfast (it's common knowledge).

* Al Shabab fighters are guranteed a place in Janna (it's common knowledge).

* Everyone from Maakhir has stinky breath (it's common knowledge - all that love of fish).

Bah! You bore me. I'm out.

[The Nomad]

Do you understand the difference between common knowledge and irrational statements? Did you purposely skip 'multiple sources attest to this' ?

Don't waste my time when a simple google search will give you all the information: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/ ... 2487.shtml

Arafat's corruption and self-aggrandizement weakened Fatah's credibility, but his willingness to go the diplomatic route (which he did poorly) created a division between Palestinians willing to settle on a state and true revolutionaries. This helped Palestinian 'terrorism' become a shell of what it was in the 70s and 80s.

So he was essentially a failure on both fronts, he was too afraid to begin a true insurgency but still went into Oslo with plenty of options, leaving himself an escape hatch so he would be able to go back to his people and declare himself a martyr for the cause when he scuttled the final agreement. It was a shame because that agreement was quite close to the Pre-67 lines and shared control of Jerusalem.

97% of his demands were granted at one time or another and due to being nothing more than a strongman with no political vision, he threw it away because of his ego, in the process hurting his people.

Get out, because you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Paddington Bear]

You’re just a little Zionist masquerading as a Jihadi, aren’t you?
Your source talks about Arafat having between one to three billion and that his wife was living in luxury on the mind boggling sum of a hundred thousand dollars a month? Is that the only proof you can come up with, my irrational statements loving Zionist?

Other than your feeble opinions, are you planning to come up with any solid facts any time soon? (MY facts were in my first reply to you. Now, come on, don't be shy, show me yours).

[The Nomad]

You’re just a little Zionist masquerading as a Jihadi, aren’t you?
Your source talks about Arafat having between one to three billion and that his wife was living in luxury on the mind boggling sum of a hundred thousand dollars a month? Is that the only proof you can come up with, my irrational statements loving Zionist?

Don't use words you don't understand purely because they happen to be buzz-words, Arafat was the biggest proponent of Zionism. At Camp David, Israel offered Arafat 97% of all the land that he wanted, and offered the equivilant of the remaining 3% elsewhere because there were already settlements in the area he wanted. He walked away.

My facts require an open mind and the ability to make basic deductions, Arafat becomes a billionaire once proof is found Palestinian aid money is being siphoned off. What do you think happened?

Other than your feeble opinions, are you planning to come up with any solid facts any time soon? (MY facts were in my first reply to you. Now, come on, don't be shy, show me yours).

My facts are based in reality. Subscribing to Arafat's cult of personality blinds you from seeing them.

[The Nomad]

he has transferred millions of dollars of EU humanitarian aid money to his wife Suha's private bank account in Paris. Both the Bank of France and the French authorities are now investigating Arafat's corrupt practice of money laundering.

[Paddington Bear]

You’re just a little Zionist masquerading as a Jihadi, aren’t you?
Your source talks about Arafat having between one to three billion and that his wife was living in luxury on the mind boggling sum of a hundred thousand dollars a month? Is that the only proof you can come up with, my irrational statements loving Zionist?

Don't use words you don't understand purely because they happen to be buzz-words, Arafat was the biggest proponent of Zionism. At Camp David, Israel offered Arafat 97% of all the land that he wanted, and offered the equivilant of the remaining 3% elsewhere because there were already settlements in the area he wanted. He walked away.

My facts require an open mind and the ability to make basic deductions, Arafat becomes a billionaire once proof is found Palestinian aid money is being siphoned off. What do you think happened?

Other than your feeble opinions, are you planning to come up with any solid facts any time soon? (MY facts were in my first reply to you. Now, come on, don't be shy, show me yours).

My facts are based in reality. Subscribing to Arafat's cult of personality blinds you from seeing them.

Waffle. Waffle. Waffle.

Are you a student by any chance? I mean only a student would think Zionism was a buzz-word.

Still, these facts tha are based in reality. Since they are based in reality, they are not facts, are they? Fiction perhaps?

I would happily bore you with the history of Arafat, the Oslo agreement, the deal and why it broke down. But, first, I need you to clear that 'fact' problem out of the way. Come student, indulge me. Give me one fact. Not even a fat common knowledge or based in reality one, give me a starving skinny fact. As Somalis and Arabs would say, give me a fact with nasab.

P.S.
They're investigating it? What, like I'm investigating your familiarity with facts?

[The Nomad]

All that and you didn't actually say anything

You don't need to give me your flawed interpretation of why negotiations broke down, I know why they did, as does anybody else who is capable of viewing this situation objectively. They broke down because Arafat is not a diplomat, merely a fool who doesn't know what his people want or what he even wants, outside of a quick buck.

His demands were fulfilled, Israel gave every concession, yet to look good to the fringe members of his party and to retain a little relevance he says no.

This is who you choose to champion

[The Nomad]

Before I get more nonsense, what are you actually arguing?

That Palestine does not fit the criteria of 'Jihad', that the current state of events is entirely the fault of one side and that the Palestinians/PLO bear no blame or that Yasser Arafat is infallible?

It's one of the three, but your knack for writing a lot and saying nothing makes it hard to place which one.

[Paddington Bear]

Hmmm. Ok, I accept your apology. Let us forget about your claim that Arafat was corrupted and talk instead about these other ideas of yours.
But not now. I'm done 'working' for today and need to get home. I'll look forward to tomorrow morning, student.

[The Nomad]

Hmmm. Ok, I accept your apology. Let us forget about your evidence supporting the incontrovertible claim that Arafat was corrupted and talk instead about these other ideas of yours.
But not now. I'm done 'working' for today and need to get home. I'll look forward to tomorrow morning, student.

Before I get more nonsense...

Too late, it seems.