Wahabi Mosque vs Modernist Mosque

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Re: Wahabi Mosque vs Modernist Mosque

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Nope. You obviously do this for a rise.
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There's something called the "ignore button".
If you don't appreciate the good work I undertake on this forum, do make use of it. :up:
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Re: Wahabi Mosque vs Modernist Mosque

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union, that definition is not correct. Sheikh abdulhabab is follower quran and sunnah . Allah yarhamo.

people you call wahabi are people who follow quran and sunnah. we dont know what modern islam is. but i follow exactly what i believe is from prophet and his followers , yes 1500 years ago and perfectly fit in every age and time.


now, enough for grown man to seek attention. learn your religion instead you busy what other muslims do.
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hyper, wahabis are obviously more puritanical in their belief system than other types of muslims. it would be unwise to completely deny their existence, or to say there aren't divisions within isalm.
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arabmtu wrote:
udun wrote:Grant aka Mr Somali version of Lawrance of Arabia :lol:
Lawrence was multilingual and knew the culture and traditions; that's how his fitnah succeeded. I'm not sure about Grant.

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Lawrence of Arabia was a British Government agent who succeeded in separating the Arabs from the (Shia) Ottoman Caliphate and was consequently at least partly responsible for releasing the Nejdian menace upon the world. I am a teacher of English and a dental technician, pure and simple. If I can correct a few lies and and a little grammar I am happy. No government connections. I am hardly in Lawrence's league.
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Grant wrote:
arabmtu wrote:
udun wrote:Grant aka Mr Somali version of Lawrance of Arabia :lol:
Lawrence was multilingual and knew the culture and traditions; that's how his fitnah succeeded. I'm not sure about Grant.

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Lawrence of Arabia was a British Government agent who succeeded in separating the Arabs from the (Shia) Ottoman Caliphate and was consequently at least partly responsible for releasing the Nejdian menace upon the world. I am a teacher of English and a dental technician, pure and simple. If I can correct a few lies and and a little grammar I am happy. No government connections. I am hardly in Lawrence's league.
The ottoman caliphate was not shia they were sunni muslim.
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Grant wrote:No government connections.
You would deny if there's connection, of course.
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arabmtu wrote:
Grant wrote:No government connections.
You would deny if there's connection, of course.
Not saying that he is a spy, but the CIA does have a preference for hiring mormons.
I don't imagine why a mormon boy who spent a bit of time in Somalia wouldn't get a job right off the bat with the agency.
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Lawrence of Arabia was a British Government agent who succeeded in separating the Arabs from the (Shia) Ottoman Caliphate and was consequently at least partly responsible for releasing the Nejdian menace upon the world. I am a teacher of English and a dental technician, pure and simple. If I can correct a few lies and and a little grammar I am happy. No government connections. I am hardly in Lawrence's league.[/quote]
The ottoman caliphate was not shia they were sunni muslim.[/quote]

Sorry. I was thinking Sufi and Wrote Shia.

Union,

The CIA likes good Mormon boys. That would not be me.

TAM,

You should talk. :lol:
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union wrote:Not saying that he is a spy, but the CIA does have a preference for hiring mormons.
I don't imagine why a mormon boy who spent a bit of time in Somalia wouldn't get a job right off the bat with the agency.
Dude, take your issue with Grant somewhere else. Ha ii hiilinin.
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Grant wrote:
arabmtu wrote:
udun wrote:Grant aka Mr Somali version of Lawrance of Arabia :lol:
Lawrence was multilingual and knew the culture and traditions; that's how his fitnah succeeded. I'm not sure about Grant.

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Lawrence of Arabia was a British Government agent who succeeded in separating the Arabs from the (Shia) Ottoman Caliphate and was consequently at least partly responsible for releasing the Nejdian menace upon the world. I am a teacher of English and a dental technician, pure and simple. If I can correct a few lies and and a little grammar I am happy. No government connections. I am hardly in Lawrence's league.
First, Ottoman Caliphate was Sunni-led Muslim government.

Second, the Nejd was a section of Saudi Arabia and the only well-known group from Nejd is the Saudi Royal family. Every one knows who they are allied with and who protects them :idea: Fyi, Lawrence of Arabia was not in Arabia at all when Sheikh Mohamed Bin Wahab (ra) started his work to remove many heresy practices that the some Muslims were attributing to the faith. It is ironic how someone who is not Muslim can tell Muslims which sect of Islam was good and which one is not. Even Mormonism, your faith, is regarded as outside of mainstream Christianity. You may want need to look into your religious teachings and try to make it Christian mainstream. We all know the deformity in the Mormon teachings.

Third, you claimed to be an English teacher, but when you were in Somalia, you were part of the Peace Corps, a group of people run by the US CIA. many American scholars who familiar with US intelligence's involvement in Somalia know the CIA is one of the agency that contributed to Somalia's disintegrations including recruiting, funding, and guiding many groups in Somalia who brought the Somali state to its knees.

The other activities that your group--peace corps--conducted in Somalia were christian missionary work, and I would not be surprised if some of the people here, who constantly agree with your viewpoints here at SNET, were your students that you converted to Christianity.
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Re: Wahabi Mosque vs Modernist Mosque

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udun wrote:The other activities that your group--peace corps--conducted in Somalia were christian missionary work, and I would not be surprised if some of the people here, who constantly agree with your viewpoints here at SNET, were your students that you converted to Christianity.
I didn't know the Corps were/are involved in missionary activities. This is new info to me.
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Udun,

I already apologized to Abdisamad3 for the Shia error. I meant Sufi, which was the Wahaabbi criticism of the Ottoman Caliphs. Here is an explanation of the Saudi-Wahaabbi alliance: http://countrystudies.us/saudi-arabia/7.htm Note that Abdul Wahaab and his family were also from the southern Nejd. Also see this from Alahazrat.net: http://www.alahazrat.net/islam/wahabi-salafi.php

I am a Jack Mormon. Definition: noun
1.
a non-Mormon living amicably among Mormons.
2.
a Mormon not active in the church or adhering strictly to Mormon principles."

Beleive it or not, at this point I don't care. I served two years in the Peace Corps INSTEAD of serving a Church mission. I was out to survive and teach English. I never discussed religion with a single soul while in Somalia and converting folks couldn't have been further from my mind. Furthermore, when I was there, the Amish had a church mission in Jamaame and an Italian Doctor and nuns operated a leprosarium across the river from Jilib. There was also a Bahai doctor in Kismayu. If there were any conversions going on, look to them.

You're just being paranoid.
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Re: Wahabi Mosque vs Modernist Mosque

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Grant, is the second link an affiliate of Rashad Khalifa's teachings? You're known to copy/paste from and post such links.
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Re: Wahabi Mosque vs Modernist Mosque

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I can't tell. It says it's an international Islamic site but has books in Urdu, which I assume means it is based in India. What does Masjid e Habib mean?

Is Rashad Khalifa not a Muslim?
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