Ethiopians Fear for Their Interfaith Oasis

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Ethiopians Fear for Their Interfaith Oasis

http://www.hiiraan.com/news2/2007/may/e ... oasis.aspx

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

And the reason they fear for it is because they know that men like Aweys want to take it down.

[biko]

thats perfect news...

let them share some of the head ach and unsertainty somali people face. and let pray it also kicks off in ethiopia and all hell brake loos.

why have all the fun when the love can be spread all around...

CUT DOWN THE RAW MEAT!!!

[Gedo_Boy]

biko,

if war happens there a lot of Muslims will be killed and a lot of non-Muslims will not get to understand Islam b/c of the violence. People who hate Islam in East Africa want that kind of environment to discourage ppl from Islam.

[biko]

[quote="Gedo_Boy"]biko,

if war happens there a lot of Muslims will be killed and a lot of non-Muslims will not get to understand Islam b/c of the violence. People who hate Islam in East Africa want that kind of environment to discourage ppl from Islam.[/quote]
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muslim will be dying by the dozen anyway so it dont make any difference. and as for the none-muslims; well as far as i know in Islam there is nothing about turning the other cheek and suffer peacefuly.

anyway, with whats going in that part of the world am realy surprised and even shoked, that you are thinking about how Islam will be viewed in very hostile region. do you realy think muslims in this day and age worry about how they are perceived by none muslims, especialy when they are most likely the targets?

I SAY THE ONLY THINK MISSING IN THE HORN OF AFRICA IS FOR MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIAN KICK STARTE A MATCH. LET BE WAR LIKE THE ONE IN DARFURE AND IN NIGERIA; MUSLIMS VERSES CHRISTIANS.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Biko
Do you have any idea how many MILLIONS of people would die in such a war. And what such a war would mean for, example, the Ogadenis? The WORST THING that could happen to the Somalis is for Ethiopia to fall apart. The scale of violence would be incredible. On top of that, the TFGs base of support would be gone. It would collapse. The violence in Somalia itself would gain new proportions. The entire horn would see so mcuh violence and death because of famine and displacement......it would be unprecedented and given the size of the Ethiopian arsenal, you could easily end up with 15 million plus dead. Somalia could find itself a million or two lighter. I fail to see how that is a good thing.

[kkk47]

if Ethio-afxaaro fall apart, will be good for all somalis

[michael_ital]

[quote="MAD MAC"]Biko
Do you have any idea how many MILLIONS of people would die in such a war. And what such a war would mean for, example, the Ogadenis? The WORST THING that could happen to the Somalis is for Ethiopia to fall apart. The scale of violence would be incredible. On top of that, the TFGs base of support would be gone. It would collapse. The violence in Somalia itself would gain new proportions. The entire horn would see so mcuh violence and death because of famine and displacement......it would be unprecedented and given the size of the Ethiopian arsenal, you could easily end up with 15 million plus dead. Somalia could find itself a million or two lighter. I fail to see how that is a good thing.[/quote]

No it wouldn't. That would never happen, and no amount of fear mongering, and no amount of fostering the "you need us to save you" mentality, can change that.

x-unit EXELLENT article, mate.

[biko]

[quote="MAD MAC"]Biko
Do you have any idea how many MILLIONS of people would die in such a war. And what such a war would mean for, example, the Ogadenis? The WORST THING that could happen to the Somalis is for Ethiopia to fall apart. The scale of violence would be incredible. On top of that, the TFGs base of support would be gone. It would collapse. The violence in Somalia itself would gain new proportions. The entire horn would see so mcuh violence and death because of famine and displacement......it would be unprecedented and given the size of the Ethiopian arsenal, you could easily end up with 15 million plus dead. Somalia could find itself a million or two lighter. I fail to see how that is a good thing.[/quote]
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well, people will always be dying. rightly or wrongly and in that part they have been dying wrongly for dacades.

christian Vs muslims in ethiopia will strenghten the muslim unity and thus will get rid off the ethiopia back to their lice-infested land, and we somalis will be playing hangman with CY, Geedi and the rest...

beside, as muslims we are always looking for a way to be delivered to our maker. the sooner the better. preferably with a BANG!

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"No it wouldn't. That would never happen, and no amount of fear mongering, and no amount of fostering the "you need us to save you" mentality, can change that."

Mick
Are you saying a civil war in Ethiopia is not possible?

Biko

"christian Vs muslims in ethiopia will strenghten the muslim unity and thus will get rid off the ethiopia back to their lice-infested land, and we somalis will be playing hangman with CY, Geedi and the rest..."

It would only start out as Christian versus Muslim. It would deteriorate to everyone versus everyone. That's the East African way. And you know it.

The "and the rest" is an interesting part of your quote. The rest in this context means the rest of the Somalis, gleefully killing each other on some pretext or other. You are a fool if you don't see how a civil war in Ethiopia is bad for the Somalis.

[biko]

how can anyhing be bad for somalia now? what worser faith can posible happen to the somalis that didnt already happen?

ethiopia has more to loose than the somalis. somalia has been a jungle for 2 decades, so between the two i say ethiopia has a lot to loose.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"how can anyhing be bad for somalia now? what worser faith can posible happen to the somalis that didnt already happen?"

Let your imagination run wild. The vast majority of Somalis live now at the subsistence level. If the TFG comes apart, and you have an Ethiopian Army with no central direction sitting in Somalia, armed, not paid, pissed off..........then you have all these other militias running around.........not to mention whatever crosses the border. A million or two could easily die, mostly women and children, of course, the most vulnerable.

e"thiopia has more to loose than the somalis. somalia has been a jungle for 2 decades, so between the two i say ethiopia has a lot to loose."

Indeed it does. But that's like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Just because the Ethiopians have more to lose, doesn't mean it would be a good development for Somalia. You are thinking with your emotions, instead of with your head. Ethiopia is FAR more populous than Somalia. Think of the instability that a collapse of that county would bring to the region. The Ogaden, already under duress, would take a POUNDING. Such a war ofanarchy helps no one.

[michael_ital]

MAC

I def wouldn't say that, but I don't believe it would be any where near the grand proportion of what you propose. I believe most of the strife in both countries is due to their respective leaders, and their penchant for bum smelling the U.S in this phony "War on Terror". Much the same way Brits were sick of Georgie's poop on Blair's nose.

[Demure]

I agree with Biko here, Somalia would have nothing more to lose in such a war, it would impact the Ethipians more negatively. If anythng Ethiopia would be forced to withdraw from Somalia and it maybe even doing the Ethiopian citizens a favor if Melez is overthrown in the process.

A win win situation, hey we may even get Ogadenia back.