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COLD WAR II BTW RUSSIA AND U.S?

Postby DawladSade » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:43 pm

Nato condemns Putin missile vow

Russia's threat to aim weapons at Europe if the US sets up a missile defence shield there was "unhelpful and unwelcome", Nato has said.

The US says it wants missile defence in eastern Europe to counter threats from states like Iran and North Korea.

On Sunday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Iran was not a threat to the US, hinting that Russia was the target.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy has said he will have "frank" talks with Mr Putin this week about the threat.

'Stormy summit'

Washington wants to deploy interceptor rockets in Poland and a radar base in the Czech Republic to counter what it describes as a potential threat from "rogue states" such as Iran and North Korea.

It insists the shield is not aimed at Russia.

"As far as I am aware, the only country speculating about targeting Europe with missiles is the Russian Federation," Nato spokesman James Appathurai said.

"These kind of comments are unhelpful and unwelcome."

See map of US missile defence bases

The new French president will hold his first talks with Mr Putin at this week's G8 summit in the German resort of Heiligendamm.

"I will listen attentively to him. He called for a frank dialogue. From my side, it will be frank," Mr Sarkozy said.

US President George W Bush is also due to meet Mr Putin at the three-day summit, which starts on Wednesday.

The BBC's Rupert Wingfield-Hayes in Moscow says that if Mr Putin's words are anything to go by, the summit is likely to be stormy.

'Joke of the year'

Mr Putin issued his warning in an interview with foreign reporters ahead of the G8 meeting.

"If the American nuclear potential grows in European territory, we will have to have new targets in Europe," Mr Putin said.

He said neither Iran nor North Korea had the weapons that the US was seeking to shoot down.

"We are being told the anti-missile defence system is targeted against something that does not exist. Doesn't it seem funny to you?" he asked.

Top Iranian security official Ali Larijani described the planned deployment as the "joke of the year", adding that Iran's missiles were not capable of reaching Europe.

Mr Putin said Washington had "altered the strategic balance" by unilaterally pulling out of the anti-ballistic missile (ABM) treaty in 2002.

He hoped US officials would change their minds about the missile plan, and said that if an arms race resulted it would not be Russia's fault.

Last week, Moscow announced it had tested a ballistic missile to maintain "strategic balance" in the world.
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Re: COLD WAR II BTW RUSSIA AND U.S??Nato condemns Putin missile

Postby DawladSade » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:45 pm

Russia tests long-range missile

Russia has test-launched a new intercontinental ballistic missile, Russian military officials say.

The launch took place at the Plesetsk cosmodrome in northern Russia at 1420 (1020 GMT) on Tuesday.

The missile, called RS-24, can be armed with up to 10 warheads and was designed to evade missile defence systems, the Russian defence ministry says.

Russia has complained that US plans to base parts of an anti-missile system in central Europe threaten its security.

The Americans maintain that their system is not directed at the Russians.

The US wants to deploy interceptor rockets in Poland and a radar base in the Czech Republic to counter what it describes as a potential threat from "rogue states" such as Iran and North Korea.

The Russian test missile successfully struck its target 5,500km (3,400 miles) away on the far eastern Kamchatka peninsula, the Russian Strategic Missile Forces said.

The statement said the missile would replace two ageing ICBM systems - the RS-18 and RS-20, known in the West as the SS-19 Stiletto and SS-18 Satan, respectively.

Modernising arsenal

Our world affairs correspondent Paul Reynolds says the Russian missile test has more to do with Russia's plans to modernise its nuclear force than its complaints about the proposed US missile defence shield in Europe, which US officials say could not intercept Russian missiles.

Of particular concern to Russia is the treaty between the US and the then Soviet Union that banned intermediate range nuclear weapons, he writes. This treaty is still in force and applies only to the US and Russia.

Russian First Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov, quoted by Reuters on Tuesday, said the deployment of medium- and short-range missiles by Russia's neighbours to the east and south now posed a "real threat".

"The Soviet-American treaty (on intermediate nuclear forces) is not effective because since (its signature) scores of countries have appeared that have such missiles, while Russia and the United States are not allowed to have them," he told a military-industrial commission in the southern city of Znamensk.

"In these conditions, it is necessary to provide our troops with modern, high-precision weapons."

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Re: COLD WAR II BTW RUSSIA AND U.S??Nato condemns Putin missile

Postby sadwiil » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:48 pm

Yes they are going to give missle defence system to Czech Republic and Poland, I really don't think this is a good time for America to start creating more problems for itself

Bush is digging Americas grave

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Re: COLD WAR II BTW RUSSIA AND U.S?

Postby paidmonk » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:52 pm

Not just Russia, it would be a bad move on the part of the Russians to think they're economically ready for the challenge. Since Putin came into office, the country has been at an economic upswing, has taken care of Chechen and Dhagestani rebels, and has recovered the Kremlin from the break-up of the Soviet Union. However, he MUST rally the support of the Ukraine, Serbia, Belarus, and several other neighboring Orthodox Socialist nations behind his tail.

When he does that, we can speak of all-out Cold War, but Russia wouldn't be ready if it turned into a physical war with the U.S.

I think that the European Union, of all confederations, is close to ready for a Cold War showdown with the United States. Especially the way that France and Germany have been making Europe more and more independent from the US and militarizing and mobilizing their armed forces.

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Re: COLD WAR II BTW RUSSIA AND U.S?

Postby Enemy_Of_Mad_Mullah » Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:23 pm

this time i think Russia will win cos the Russians control most of Europe's Natural gas which gives it much more power and influence over Europe, Americas staunchest allie. Russian missiles can already strike at US targets and that stupid shield in eastern europe. Russia has something to offer the world {natural resources} but the US is seen as an oppressor all around the world.

The Soviet union is coming back people its just a matter of time and this time America will loose Laughing

People are gonna look to Russia instead of the US from now on if there is an arms race, i think somaliland should let the russian military return to Berbera, fuk Afbiijo!!! Cool

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Re: COLD WAR II BTW RUSSIA AND U.S?

Postby paidmonk » Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:58 pm

EOMM,

Old Russian missiles in Somaliland vs. Fresh ass US Patriot Missiles in Puntland

You saw what happened to downtown Baghdad. Cool

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Re: COLD WAR II BTW RUSSIA AND U.S?

Postby Enemy_Of_Mad_Mullah » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:06 pm

wen the russians come back ur no match bitch Laughing Laughing

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Re: COLD WAR II BTW RUSSIA AND U.S?

Postby X-unit » Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:40 pm

The chinese are not foking around as well....but I like the showdown between the U.S and Russia....



China Confirms It Shot Down Satellite

January 23, 2007 -- China today confirmed that it used a land-based missile system to shoot down one of its own satellites.

The missile test makes China only the third country, after the United States and the former Soviet Union, to shoot down an object in space.

Governments last week expressed concern about reports of the missile test, but China had until now refused to confirm or deny it.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao today said the government had already informed the United States of the test. Liu said the missile strike was not directed at any country, and said that China advocates the peaceful development of space.

"China has informed certain countries, including the United States, about the antisatellite-missile test we have recently conducted in outer space," Liu told a news briefing in Beijing today. "What needs to be stressed is that China has always advocated the peaceful use of space, opposes the weaponization of space and an arms races in space. China has never participated and will never participate in any arms race in outer space."


Britain, the United States, Australia, and Japan were among the countries that warned that the strike could lead to the militarization of space.

(Reuters, AFP)

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Re: COLD WAR II BTW RUSSIA AND U.S?

Postby paidmonk » Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:49 pm

The Chinese are a joke. Those chink-eyed peasants better stop messing with Big Papa before their asses are sent back to the Stone Age.


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Re: COLD WAR II BTW RUSSIA AND U.S?

Postby James Dahl » Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:57 pm

The Cold War was betwen the entire Soviet bloc vs a NATO that is rather smaller than it is now.

NATO is even bigger and stronger now than it was then, while Russia is now a regional power with no friends or allies other than the Indians, Kazaks and Belorussians, who aren't going to be a hell of a lot of help to be honest.

I mean let's face it, several NATO countries could take on Russia by themselves, let alone the entire alliance.

Putin is trying to bring Russia back to great power status, which would be admirable if he wasn't such a prick.


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