Are Shiite's really Muslims?

[paidmonk]

Yes/No Question.

I personally think either you are or are not and since they seem to be in the middle, I'll throw them into the Kafir category, and I'm sure many here, including the staunchly anti-Shiite Salafis will agree.

[FAH1223]

they are muslim

if the Ummah is gonna stand together, we can't fuss over bullshid

they say the shahada.. you can't say they aren't Muslim...

[Poetess]

Interesting proposition though if wholly meaningless in light of political realities. The Sunnis would be well advised to tread carefully if only because they're not dealing with a fringe heresy, rather a 70 million-plus strong people with a rich history who don't take kindly to their grand mosque being blown apart, or the assertion that they're not truly Allah's boys after all the masochistic business of self-flagellation.

The Sunnis of Iraq have figured that out. As did those in Lebanon in its bloody civil war. The moral of the story: say no to wahhabism and Shia-bashing-ism

Crikey Paidmnk dearest! Haven't seen this place for a while. Anyone seen the usual suspects?

[Shilka]

Brother Monk,

Ask yourself, as a Sunni I presume -- are you a real Muslim? Question not the faith of others, but your own Iman. It does not matter if he is Sunni, Shiite, Sufi or even Jewish, if he is steadfast in his own faith as opposed to questioning others' faith, then YOU have something to learn from him.

[Padishah]

Shiism has always been a fringe movement until the Turkic-Mongol Safavid filth exploded out of the Caucasus, rampaged into Iran and forcibly converted the population to their peculair form of Shiism. It didn't help that the Ottomans were busy slapping around the Portugese who were trying to help the Ethiopians against Ahmed Gurey.

Say, Poetess, you're Christian ancestors, and the ancestors of many Iranian Shiites, all reveled in forcible conversion as a way of bringing 'enlightenment' to heathens. How about that! A tangible connection in barbarity!

[*Arabman]

The Zaydi Shia of Yemen are Muslims. The rest need to abandon what they follow and join mainstream Islam.

[BABYGIRL123]

THEY CLAIM TO BE MUSLIMS YET THEY INSULTS THE MOTHERS OF ISLAM ( THE PROPHETS WIVES) AND THE COMPANIONS OF THE PROPHET USUALLY THE FIRST THREE CALIPHS AND SAY THE XADITH ARE NOT TRUE BECAUSE THE ASXAABA LIED THEY ALSO CLAIM CALI SHOULD OF BEING THE FIRST CALIPH AND SOME EVEN GO AS FAR AS SAYING HE SHOULD OF BEING THE A PROPHET.

THEY ALSO CLAIM THE QURAN IS NOT FINISHED BUT SOME IS MISSING WITH THEIR MISSING IMAAM.

[halfoshalfom-614]

no comment .........

[FAH1223]

[quote="BABYGIRL123"]THEY CLAIM TO BE MUSLIMS YET THEY INSULTS THE MOTHERS OF ISLAM ( THE PROPHETS WIVES) AND THE COMPANIONS OF THE PROPHET USUALLY THE FIRST THREE CALIPHS AND SAY THE XADITH ARE NOT TRUE BECAUSE THE ASXAABA LIED THEY ALSO CLAIM CALI SHOULD OF BEING THE FIRST CALIPH AND SOME EVEN GO AS FAR AS SAYING HE SHOULD OF BEING THE A PROPHET.

THEY ALSO CLAIM THE QURAN IS NOT FINISHED BUT SOME IS MISSING WITH THEIR MISSING IMAAM. [/quote]

all those opinions come from different sects