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Violence against women "beyond rape" in Congo - U.N.

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Re: Violence against women "beyond rape" in Congo - U.N.

Postby musika man » Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:57 pm

[quote="*Arabman"][But, what I am disappointed about is the how you have dismissed the real humanitarian crisis there. NO matter what the intentions of America and its allies are, there are Muslims that are being killed by other Muslims. It pains me to see the suffering of the women and children of Darfur. It is a real shame that the Muslims world lets it continue.]

Whose reports are based on "the real humanitarian crisis" in Darfur? Western media. Can we trust it? As a result of the Ethio-American invasion/occupation, there's a real humanitarian crisis in Somalia; does the West or Western media care about Somalis?[/quote]

^^^^

http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article22874

in this sudanese link you will find stories and photos taken and written by other sudanese muslims about the suffering of darfurians. only you don't believe it cause your whole islam is based on politics and not on honesty and truth, two basic islamic principles. what will you argue next? Somalis are not killing each other and blame the americans. Look at the pictures.

PHOTOS: Images from Darfur crisis published for the first time.

Monday 16 July 2007 07:00.

By Wasil Ali*

July 16, 2007 (NYALA) —At a time when the world community is debating whether the peacekeeping force is a "hybrid force" or a "hybrid operation" ; whether the force is it under African Union or UN command; the human toll in Darfur is rising.

As disturbing as these images are, they are stern reminder of the grave reality on the ground in Darfur today. My personal belief is whoever inflicted this misery upon the people of Darfur will pay the price sooner or later.

One can only imagine why the Sudanese government does not want a peacekeeping force in Darfur with a mandate to protect civilians "using all necessary means". Khartoum said it will resist any such mandate.

http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article22874

watch and enjoy the pictures

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Re: Violence against women "beyond rape" in Congo - U.N.

Postby *Arabman » Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:10 pm

Sudan Tribune

The Sudan Tribune is a non profit website based in France that was launched in July 2003. The website is a news source on Sudan and neighbouring countries including news coverage (from SudanTribune or other news agencies), analyses and commentary, official reports and press releases from various organizations, and maps. It claims to have had over 5 million page views in 2005.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudan_Tribune
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Sudan Tribune isn't based in Sudan; it's not even a local Sudanese news site. It's also pro-TFG (it calls the occupiers "Ethiopian forces", the traitors "government forces", and the ICU "Islamists"):

http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article23091

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Re: Violence against women "beyond rape" in Congo - U.N.

Postby surria » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:57 am

Do you deny that there is a crisis in Darfur? Do you deny that somalis are killing each other and have been before there was any western or american intervention?

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Re: Violence against women "beyond rape" in Congo - U.N.

Postby DONKEYMAN » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:40 am

Surria, outside intervention is always here. Just because we had allied with coward Arabs, we lost all respect from our brothers in Africa and the West. Now a better future is awaiting us. Somalia will never be associated with the Arab League.

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Re: Violence against women "beyond rape" in Congo - U.N.

Postby *Arabman » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:51 am

[Do you deny that there is a crisis in Darfur? Do you deny that somalis are killing each other and have been before there was any western or american intervention?]

At the present time, due to Western interference (arming/financing some groups), there's a crisis in Darfur. The absence of Western or American intervention at the beginning of Somalia's civil war doesn't mean America wasn't involved in arming/financing one or more armed factions. When the ICU was kicking the warlords out of Mogadishu, there was no Western or American intervention, yet American and Europe were arming/financing the warlords.

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Re: Violence against women "beyond rape" in Congo - U.N.

Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:31 am

So Arab, you are trying to say that all the violence in the Islamic world is the fault of the West? You're focking joking right? The reason the Islamic world is contantly in violent throws is because of Islam.

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Re: Violence against women "beyond rape" in Congo - U.N.

Postby *Arabman » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:41 am

[So Arab, you are trying to say that all the violence in the Islamic world is the fault of the West?]

You, I and others know behind most violence in the the Islamic world is America/Europe. It would be foolish to assume absolutism applies to humans or what humans do. A few violence in the Islamic world is the fault of some Muslims (mostly seculars). Islamists hardly instigate violence. For instance, Iranians didn't instigate the Iran-Iraq war of the 80's; secular Iraqis with the nudging of America/Europe instigated it. So, yeah, you're right that most violence in the Islamic world is the fault of the West.


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